Fwd: Re:more on hot spots - from my Vet

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Steph got back to me...I asked her about the 'allergy to protein' or 'too

much protein'... this is her response.

 

She's a practicing vet... graduated second in a class of 200+ four years

ago...she does know what she's talking about.

 

>Hot spots are an immune response to something that causes an itch. While

>food allergy is ONE of the reasons, it is NOT the only one by far. In

>Tennessee we see a lot that are due to inhalant allergies (grass, pollen,

>mold, etc..). Also, food allergy is usually an allergy to the protein

>source( i.e. ckicken, beef), but not because there is too much protein, it

>is that the animal is allergic to that particular product.

>The mediators of immunity can be a protein-based molecule, but are usually

>mast cells and eosinophils that release histamine at the site of the

>reaction. I have never heard them called " protein-bumps " , but I think

>that is an inaccurate, broad generalization made by someone who knows just

>enough to be dangerous.

>The amounts of carbs, protein, etc... that are recommended in pet foods

>are set by AAFCO, and if a food meets AFFCO standards, then the amt. of

>protein in it should be OK.

 

 

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Marge, I dont want to get into a pissing match with you, but people who

show and raise dogs cant be wrong. My information originally came from

Barbara Woodhouse, who was a very well known handler and dog expert. Since

then, Ive known many breeders who confirm it, and vets that Ive personally

dealt with suggest that the protein levels are too high in most

commercially prepared food. Take a look at some of the newer " natural "

foods and check the levels of protein. Dogs are omnivore, not carnivores,

and can live on a vegetarian diet very well.

 

I am not sure that I would agree entirely that the industry standard set by

the AAFCO is necessarily right, and its only recently that veterinarians

are being taught nutrition in vet school, and not provided information by

the dog food manufacturers.

 

However, diet is something that should be invetigated. A bandaid of a

hydrosol (provided by you presumably) is not an answer, only a bandaid.

 

I dont know why you slag off competitors like you do, and you might want to

question your ethics in doing so. Its widely noted that you never miss an

opportunity.

 

Mary

Well, Naturally

 

 

 

At 12:25 PM 5/28/2004 -0500, you wrote:

 

>Steph got back to me...I asked her about the 'allergy to protein' or 'too

>much protein'... this is her response.

>

>She's a practicing vet... graduated second in a class of 200+ four years

>ago...she does know what she's talking about.

>

> >Hot spots are an immune response to something that causes an itch. While

> >food allergy is ONE of the reasons, it is NOT the only one by far. In

> >Tennessee we see a lot that are due to inhalant allergies (grass, pollen,

> >mold, etc..). Also, food allergy is usually an allergy to the protein

> >source( i.e. ckicken, beef), but not because there is too much protein, it

> >is that the animal is allergic to that particular product.

> >The mediators of immunity can be a protein-based molecule, but are usually

> >mast cells and eosinophils that release histamine at the site of the

> >reaction. I have never heard them called " protein-bumps " , but I think

> >that is an inaccurate, broad generalization made by someone who knows just

> >enough to be dangerous.

> >The amounts of carbs, protein, etc... that are recommended in pet foods

> >are set by AAFCO, and if a food meets AFFCO standards, then the amt. of

> >protein in it should be OK.

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello Mary

I read the post about protein bumps and I was also confused I agree

with what Marge's vet says, and I don't often agree with vets usually

the underlying " food " allergy problem is the source of protein and

not the amount of protein.

True enough though dog breeders often do know more than vets, but I

have seen some top show people breeding dogs with known genetic

defects, something I would look into if the allergy became a

continous problem.

I am sure that Marge can defend herself, but I did not get the

impression that she was suggesting hydrosol as a cure all, just

stating what works for her.

We have alot of animal lovers here- I am sure everyone would love to

hear some of your opinions or remedies on pet nutrition and health.

Gea