Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 (sharon) I do agree with all who have said that healing begins the minute a patient comes into the clinic and that being a good practitioner requires a certain quality of attention - but....I also feel that there is a tendency in the west to fortify a certain self centered preciousness in our patients that may not be the best for them. I am reminded of when I studied with my first Gynecology teacher, Dr. Shu-rong Zhu. She is an excellent herbalist and I sat with her as she saw patient after patient with all manner of issues. Often a patient who was exhausted from bleeding or downhearted regarding her fertility would begin to cry. Dr. Zhu would pat the patient's hand and say " don't cry " and get on the with intake and diagnosis. What I noticed was how the patient's seemed to feel relieved that she could focus on the root of what was going on without getting distracted by their emotions. She was very effective with her prescriptions and patients adored her. This helped me to see that compassion does not equal spending a lot of time listening to an emotional story or even making the patient's issues the most important thing in the universe. I see this in community acupuncture clinics where the patients actually thrive on the possibility of receiving acupuncture without being intensely focused on for an hour. The conversational background helps take them out of themselves. Self-centeredness and self-involvement is a profound cause of illness and suffering and it can do patients a mountain of good to be less important sometimes. It is also important to not compensate for our inadequacies by giving lots of emotional attention. An important form of compassion is simply to be really good at what we do. When I was very sick I my doctor was very no frills and brusk but I recall being very moved by the years she had put into being so so good at what she did and bringing that to me when I needed it. Sharon (yehuda)I'll never forget, that when I was in school, there was a supervisor who was a tuina master, and was highly in demand at our clinic. Technically he was really good. However, the whole time he would be treating patients, he would be engaged in a running conversation with Chinese interns, laughing and cracking jokes (again, no pejorative intended, only I state his nationality to indicate that I felt an insensitivity on his part, to have neither his patients nor his non-Chinese interns understanding him). Besides the obvious insensitivity in speaking a foreign language, I felt that speaking at all in excess was inappropriate, and I felt like he was looking upon the patients as nothing more than pieces of meat. Yehuda Sharon Weizenbaum 86 Henry Street Amherst, MA 01002 413-549-4021 sweiz www.whitepinehealingarts.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Sharon, There is a fine line between over-indulgence in a patient's problems and simplifying the situation before us. But sometimes, a few carefully chosen words in the right tone, with the right amount of attention to the patient, is a very important factor in mobilizing healing in a patient. On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:29 AM, sharon weizenbaum wrote: > (sharon) I do agree with all who have said that healing begins the > minute a patient comes into the clinic and that being a good > practitioner requires a certain quality of attention - but....I also > feel that there is a tendency in the west to fortify a certain self > centered preciousness in our patients that may not be the best for > them. I am reminded of when I studied with my first Gynecology > teacher, Dr. Shu-rong Zhu. She is an excellent herbalist and I sat > with her as she saw patient after patient with all manner of issues. > Often a patient who was exhausted from bleeding or downhearted > regarding her fertility would begin to cry. Dr. Zhu would pat the > patient's hand and say " don't cry " and get on the with intake and > diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 HI Sharon, Spiritual Acupuncture would depend on a Spiritual Understanding or model of Spirit in Human Form and human life, and a connection of this understanding to , including vital substances, channels and points, they must correspond to the understanding. Its very rare to see this taught. Im my view most things written or taught are just dabbling in this. Nei Jing, Nan Jing, Jia Yi Jing, etc are not really talking directly about this aspect of life or not at all. Does this make sense? regards, david Chinese Medicine , " Z'ev Rosenberg " <zrosenbe wrote: > > Sharon, > There is a fine line between over-indulgence in a patient's > problems and simplifying the situation before us. But sometimes, a > few carefully chosen words in the right tone, with the right amount > of attention to the patient, is a very important factor in mobilizing > healing in a patient. > > > > On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:29 AM, sharon weizenbaum wrote: > > > (sharon) I do agree with all who have said that healing begins the > > minute a patient comes into the clinic and that being a good > > practitioner requires a certain quality of attention - but....I also > > feel that there is a tendency in the west to fortify a certain self > > centered preciousness in our patients that may not be the best for > > them. I am reminded of when I studied with my first Gynecology > > teacher, Dr. Shu-rong Zhu. She is an excellent herbalist and I sat > > with her as she saw patient after patient with all manner of issues. > > Often a patient who was exhausted from bleeding or downhearted > > regarding her fertility would begin to cry. Dr. Zhu would pat the > > patient's hand and say " don't cry " and get on the with intake and > > diagnosis. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Hi Z'ev, Yes indeed. After all, the overall intention is to help. Sometimes it will require more involvement and sometimes it will require less. In any case it will require sensitivity and attention. We are Qi doctors and our words and postures and greetings all express Qi and have the potential to move the session in a healing direction or not. I do feel that there are many times when giving less attention is more though. Yet, on a different note, it's hard to know how to adjust and move with the variety of energies coming through our clinics I think. It's a real mystery to me. Sometimes I feel that I have really been awkward, too in my head and said the wrong things and then somehow the patient ends up feeling really good about our connection and does well with a treatment. Other times I just feel in the " zone " and yet the patient doesn't feel joined up. It's a bit humbling to feel that I am so connected to the energies, feeling that I am giving a great treatment, feeling really connected to the patient but then it doesn't pan out in treatment results! This kind of thing always reminds me that there is so much more going on than I can control or understand. Sharon, There is a fine line between over-indulgence in a patient's problems and simplifying the situation before us. But sometimes, a few carefully chosen words in the right tone, with the right amount of attention to the patient, is a very important factor in mobilizing healing in a patient. Sharon Weizenbaum 86 Henry Street Amherst, MA 01002 413-549-4021 sweiz www.whitepinehealingarts.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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