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Hi, I have a patient who came to me with frequent bronchitis, mouth

sores (canker sores), cold sores, and herpes. Her bronchitis has

since gotten better (no flares ups in many months now), but she

continues to go through periods of a mouth full of canker sores (often

referred to as Mouth sores in TCM texts). Still sometimes gets

herpes, often on her leg as opposed to genitals. She has gotten

canker sores frequently her whole life, even as a kid. She is

constitutionally yin deficient. Her tongue has a dip in the middle

(lung and/or stomach/spleen area). Not a lot of coating on her tongue,

but not peeled. Pulses are thready. Occassional nightsweats. 44

years old. Has a husky sounding voice. Former sun worshipper, but is

reducing that. High energy person.

 

I read about Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang in Notes From South Mountain

being good for someone with frequent bronchitis and canker

sores--adding a little Huang Lian. I gave it to her recently, but

since she is having an acute flare up of a mouth full of canker sores

I think that it is not addressing the acute aspect even if it is good

constitutionally. I am thinking of giving her Long Dan Xie Gan Tang

along with the Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang for the acute heat

situation, but wanted to get ideas on here as well. Any thoughts on

herbs? Any similar experiences to share?

 

Thanks,

 

Laura

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Tian Qi Hua Jing works well for canker sores

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:23 PM

Frequent canker sores/cold sores/herpes/bronchitis

 

 

Hi, I have a patient who came to me with frequent bronchitis, mouth

sores (canker sores), cold sores, and herpes. Her bronchitis has

since gotten better (no flares ups in many months now), but she

continues to go through periods of a mouth full of canker sores (often

referred to as Mouth sores in TCM texts). Still sometimes gets

herpes, often on her leg as opposed to genitals. She has gotten

canker sores frequently her whole life, even as a kid. She is

constitutionally yin deficient. Her tongue has a dip in the middle

(lung and/or stomach/spleen area). Not a lot of coating on her tongue,

but not peeled. Pulses are thready. Occassional nightsweats. 44

years old. Has a husky sounding voice. Former sun worshipper, but is

reducing that. High energy person.

 

I read about Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang in Notes From South Mountain

being good for someone with frequent bronchitis and canker

sores--adding a little Huang Lian. I gave it to her recently, but

since she is having an acute flare up of a mouth full of canker sores

I think that it is not addressing the acute aspect even if it is good

constitutionally. I am thinking of giving her Long Dan Xie Gan Tang

along with the Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang for the acute heat

situation, but wanted to get ideas on here as well. Any thoughts on

herbs? Any similar experiences to share?

 

Thanks,

 

Laura

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks Alon--is that more for acute stage? Do you know what's in in?

I'm not finding it just yet.

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Alon Marcus "

<alonmarcus wrote:

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> Tian Qi Hua Jing works well for canker sores

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> heylaurag

> Chinese Medicine

> Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:23 PM

> Frequent canker sores/cold sores/herpes/bronchitis

>

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> Hi, I have a patient who came to me with frequent bronchitis, mouth

> sores (canker sores), cold sores, and herpes. Her bronchitis has

> since gotten better (no flares ups in many months now), but she

> continues to go through periods of a mouth full of canker sores (often

> referred to as Mouth sores in TCM texts). Still sometimes gets

> herpes, often on her leg as opposed to genitals. She has gotten

> canker sores frequently her whole life, even as a kid. She is

> constitutionally yin deficient. Her tongue has a dip in the middle

> (lung and/or stomach/spleen area). Not a lot of coating on her tongue,

> but not peeled. Pulses are thready. Occassional nightsweats. 44

> years old. Has a husky sounding voice. Former sun worshipper, but is

> reducing that. High energy person.

>

> I read about Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang in Notes From South Mountain

> being good for someone with frequent bronchitis and canker

> sores--adding a little Huang Lian. I gave it to her recently, but

> since she is having an acute flare up of a mouth full of canker sores

> I think that it is not addressing the acute aspect even if it is good

> constitutionally. I am thinking of giving her Long Dan Xie Gan Tang

> along with the Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang for the acute heat

> situation, but wanted to get ideas on here as well. Any thoughts on

> herbs? Any similar experiences to share?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Laura

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Laura,

I have had great success with Probiotics (good gut bacteria) as well as B

complex. Acidophilus being very specific and usually 24-36hrs will knock out the

canker sores. Very likely to have modest benefits for other issues as well.

Bob

www.acuherbals.com

 

heylaurag <heylaurag wrote:

Hi, I have a patient who came to me with frequent bronchitis, mouth

sores (canker sores), cold sores, and herpes. Her bronchitis has

since gotten better (no flares ups in many months now), but she

continues to go through periods of a mouth full of canker sores (often

referred to as Mouth sores in TCM texts). Still sometimes gets

herpes, often on her leg as opposed to genitals. She has gotten

canker sores frequently her whole life, even as a kid. She is

constitutionally yin deficient. Her tongue has a dip in the middle

(lung and/or stomach/spleen area). Not a lot of coating on her tongue,

but not peeled. Pulses are thready. Occassional nightsweats. 44

years old. Has a husky sounding voice. Former sun worshipper, but is

reducing that. High energy person.

 

I read about Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang in Notes From South Mountain

being good for someone with frequent bronchitis and canker

sores--adding a little Huang Lian. I gave it to her recently, but

since she is having an acute flare up of a mouth full of canker sores

I think that it is not addressing the acute aspect even if it is good

constitutionally. I am thinking of giving her Long Dan Xie Gan Tang

along with the Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang for the acute heat

situation, but wanted to get ideas on here as well. Any thoughts on

herbs? Any similar experiences to share?

 

Thanks,

 

Laura

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.

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It can be used any time but unfortunately it does contain sugar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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heylaurag

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Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:05 AM

Re: Frequent canker sores/cold sores/herpes/bronchitis

 

 

Thanks Alon--is that more for acute stage? Do you know what's in in?

I'm not finding it just yet.

 

Chinese Medicine , " Alon Marcus "

<alonmarcus wrote:

>

> Tian Qi Hua Jing works well for canker sores

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> heylaurag

> Chinese Medicine

> Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:23 PM

> Frequent canker sores/cold sores/herpes/bronchitis

>

>

> Hi, I have a patient who came to me with frequent bronchitis, mouth

> sores (canker sores), cold sores, and herpes. Her bronchitis has

> since gotten better (no flares ups in many months now), but she

> continues to go through periods of a mouth full of canker sores (often

> referred to as Mouth sores in TCM texts). Still sometimes gets

> herpes, often on her leg as opposed to genitals. She has gotten

> canker sores frequently her whole life, even as a kid. She is

> constitutionally yin deficient. Her tongue has a dip in the middle

> (lung and/or stomach/spleen area). Not a lot of coating on her tongue,

> but not peeled. Pulses are thready. Occassional nightsweats. 44

> years old. Has a husky sounding voice. Former sun worshipper, but is

> reducing that. High energy person.

>

> I read about Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang in Notes From South Mountain

> being good for someone with frequent bronchitis and canker

> sores--adding a little Huang Lian. I gave it to her recently, but

> since she is having an acute flare up of a mouth full of canker sores

> I think that it is not addressing the acute aspect even if it is good

> constitutionally. I am thinking of giving her Long Dan Xie Gan Tang

> along with the Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang for the acute heat

> situation, but wanted to get ideas on here as well. Any thoughts on

> herbs? Any similar experiences to share?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Laura

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Just a bit of caution with Long Dan Xie Gan --> it is

pretty drying, and so you may not want to give it for

too long.

 

At the same time, you can give your patient Watermelon

Froth (Xi Guo Xiang) to administer directly on the

mouth sores. This powder will speed up the healing

process of the canker sores dramatically.

 

--- " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist "

<boblindeherbalist wrote:

 

> Hi Laura,

> I have had great success with Probiotics (good gut

> bacteria) as well as B complex. Acidophilus being

> very specific and usually 24-36hrs will knock out

> the canker sores. Very likely to have modest

> benefits for other issues as well.

> Bob

> www.acuherbals.com

>

> heylaurag <heylaurag wrote:

> Hi, I have a patient who came to me with

> frequent bronchitis, mouth

> sores (canker sores), cold sores, and herpes. Her

> bronchitis has

> since gotten better (no flares ups in many months

> now), but she

> continues to go through periods of a mouth full of

> canker sores (often

> referred to as Mouth sores in TCM texts). Still

> sometimes gets

> herpes, often on her leg as opposed to genitals. She

> has gotten

> canker sores frequently her whole life, even as a

> kid. She is

> constitutionally yin deficient. Her tongue has a dip

> in the middle

> (lung and/or stomach/spleen area). Not a lot of

> coating on her tongue,

> but not peeled. Pulses are thready. Occassional

> nightsweats. 44

> years old. Has a husky sounding voice. Former sun

> worshipper, but is

> reducing that. High energy person.

>

> I read about Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang in Notes

> From South Mountain

> being good for someone with frequent bronchitis and

> canker

> sores--adding a little Huang Lian. I gave it to her

> recently, but

> since she is having an acute flare up of a mouth

> full of canker sores

> I think that it is not addressing the acute aspect

> even if it is good

> constitutionally. I am thinking of giving her Long

> Dan Xie Gan Tang

> along with the Sha Shen Mai Men Dong Tang for the

> acute heat

> situation, but wanted to get ideas on here as well.

> Any thoughts on

> herbs? Any similar experiences to share?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Laura

 

> Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers

> from someone who knows.

> Answers - Check it out.

>

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