Acupuncture meridian computer program

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Hi all,

Just think for a minute (not that you don't, but...) anyway, these devices are

mini-computers, hence, for them to function, the software had to be programmed

by a hominid (that's us folks). We, in our art use the subtle manifestations we

get from touch, sight, and feeling in general when the pt. walks in the room to

be treated, coupled with a $70,000 education we acquired from the books we read

and lots of experienced teachers that passed something to us one-on-one. The

mini-computers will give you some result as the product of what the computer

programmer put in it, but as you can see, that's absolutely not even close to

accuracy. It is like a cookie-cutter result, based on a broad generality of what

should this or that feel based on that and the other. And this would be true for

anything, be it diagnosis, Qi level, what channel is sick, etc.,

 

Gloria

 

mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

Check out http://www.cihs.edu/whatsnew/ami_info.asp for another one and this

one has been

doing a lot of research work. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

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tom.verhaeghe: Wed, 30 May 2007 07:52:23 +0200Re:

Re: question for the group---acupuncture meridian computer program

 

 

 

 

I know of several systems that use electric diagnostics. There's EAV:

Electroacupuncture according to Voll http://www.eav.org/ thatmeasures all the

jing well points and also will use various substances ashomeopathic medicines,

herbs etc in their measurements. I know some peoplethat are very skilled in this

(I have been told that it takes several yearsto get reliable results) and I have

also undergone one of these tests. Theresults were amazing: the diagnosis was

just as I or an other acupuncturisthad diagnosed myself. Another system that

built upon this is MORA therapy http://www.oirfcom/recinstr/mora-pait.html .

They use expensive machines (up to 12.500€) tomeasure electromagnetic

disturbances in channels and systems. These machineshave sofisticated software

that can measure things like immune disorders,amalgame toxicities, tooth

infections, candida infections,...areas where Ithink TCM does not always

function as well. When I have patients thatpresent with very complex

patterns and with whom I suspect immunologicaldysfunctions I might refer them

out to a Mora therapist to get a diagnosis.I have gotten good feedback this way.

Tom. ---- Alon Marcus 30/05/2007 4:49:19

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I'd go even further and say that I've never found one piece of

acupuncture or Chinese medicine software that was useful to me. I

haven't been able to understand why, as the homeopathic field has

great software in comparison. This software is even more

sophisticated than the texts (materia medicas, repertories, etc.) in

terms of search, comparison, etc. For example MacRepertory or

Radar. Why can't our field come up with something that is comparable

in quality?

 

 

On May 30, 2007, at 5:35 PM, The Traveler wrote:

 

> Hi all,

> Just think for a minute (not that you don't, but...) anyway, these

> devices are mini-computers, hence, for them to function, the

> software had to be programmed by a hominid (that's us folks). We,

> in our art use the subtle manifestations we get from touch, sight,

> and feeling in general when the pt. walks in the room to be

> treated, coupled with a $70,000 education we acquired from the

> books we read and lots of experienced teachers that passed

> something to us one-on-one. The mini-computers will give you some

> result as the product of what the computer programmer put in it,

> but as you can see, that's absolutely not even close to accuracy.

> It is like a cookie-cutter result, based on a broad generality of

> what should this or that feel based on that and the other. And this

> would be true for anything, be it diagnosis, Qi level, what channel

> is sick, etc.,

>

> Gloria

 

 

 

 

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Zev

Perhaps because most in our profession have less prior education than most other

medical professions

Alon

 

<zrosenbe wrote: I'd

go even further and say that I've never found one piece of

acupuncture or Chinese medicine software that was useful to me. I

haven't been able to understand why, as the homeopathic field has

great software in comparison. This software is even more

sophisticated than the texts (materia medicas, repertories, etc.) in

terms of search, comparison, etc. For example MacRepertory or

Radar. Why can't our field come up with something that is comparable

in quality?

 

On May 30, 2007, at 5:35 PM, The Traveler wrote:

 

> Hi all,

> Just think for a minute (not that you don't, but...) anyway, these

> devices are mini-computers, hence, for them to function, the

> software had to be programmed by a hominid (that's us folks). We,

> in our art use the subtle manifestations we get from touch, sight,

> and feeling in general when the pt. walks in the room to be

> treated, coupled with a $70,000 education we acquired from the

> books we read and lots of experienced teachers that passed

> something to us one-on-one. The mini-computers will give you some

> result as the product of what the computer programmer put in it,

> but as you can see, that's absolutely not even close to accuracy.

> It is like a cookie-cutter result, based on a broad generality of

> what should this or that feel based on that and the other. And this

> would be true for anything, be it diagnosis, Qi level, what channel

> is sick, etc.,

>

> Gloria