TCM - question for the group---acupuncture meridian computer program

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I have been seeing a practitioner (originally from Taiwan) here for a year

who uses one of these measuring devices (in his private practice, though not at

school where he is also a clinic superviser.) I cannot speak to the question

as to why he would want to use this machine but i can give some anecdotal

evidence that his diagnoses from this channel measuring match up almost exactly

with pulse diagnosis I received from Jeffrey Yuen within the same week, and

also matched with a teacher of the Shen-Hammer pulse diagnosis system who gave

me

an assessment of my pulse in the context of a class, also during the same

2-week period. They were all 3 very similar in diagnosis of rather complex and

layered patterns, though the language used is somewhat different with each

practitioner.

 

So this person I know does not fit either the stereotype of beginning

practitioner or insecure practitioner, but rather knows the medicine in a deep

way.

Maybe he just likes the device and the computer. It also automatically

tracks all the info about the patient's readings so it is possible to see the

shifts over a long period of time in treatment.

 

--RoseAnne

NYC

 

 

 

In a message dated 5/29/07 5:48:10 PM, zrosenbe writes:

 

 

> Why on earth would anyone want to use this?  After so many years, a 

> practitioner should know with his hands eyes and ears how to know the 

> state of yin, yang, ying q, zong qi, etc.  Also, I am not so sure 

> these are qualities that could be measured by a computer device.  

> More details about this program would be interesting.. . .

>

>

> On May 29, 2007, at 12:37 PM, rcooper1us wrote:

>

> > My wonderful and masterful Chinese doctor (acup and herbal) who is 72

> > years young and in practice for 50 years has been using a computer

> > program for a couple of years and is very serious about its value.

> > While holding a metal wand in one hand the patient then offers each

> > hand and foot to have the doctor hold a metal probe on each jing will

> > point (and i believe source pt...cant remember).

> >

> > The passage and amount of qi in the meridians is assessed and the

> > program gives other feedback, on the state of the yin, yang, zong 

> > qi or

> > ying qi etc if there is a problem.

> > Quite amazing...he said the program cost $6,000.

> >

> > Has anyone seen this? any ideas on where to get this?

> >

> > R.Cooper

>

 

 

 

 

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is he using skin resistance measurements?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ra6151

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:07 PM

Re: question for the group---acupuncture meridian

computer program

 

 

I have been seeing a practitioner (originally from Taiwan) here for a year

who uses one of these measuring devices (in his private practice, though not

at

school where he is also a clinic superviser.) I cannot speak to the question

as to why he would want to use this machine but i can give some anecdotal

evidence that his diagnoses from this channel measuring match up almost

exactly

with pulse diagnosis I received from Jeffrey Yuen within the same week, and

also matched with a teacher of the Shen-Hammer pulse diagnosis system who gave

me

an assessment of my pulse in the context of a class, also during the same

2-week period. They were all 3 very similar in diagnosis of rather complex and

layered patterns, though the language used is somewhat different with each

practitioner.

 

So this person I know does not fit either the stereotype of beginning

practitioner or insecure practitioner, but rather knows the medicine in a deep

way.

Maybe he just likes the device and the computer. It also automatically

tracks all the info about the patient's readings so it is possible to see the

shifts over a long period of time in treatment.

 

--RoseAnne

NYC

 

In a message dated 5/29/07 5:48:10 PM, zrosenbe writes:

 

> Why on earth would anyone want to use this? After so many years, a

> practitioner should know with his hands eyes and ears how to know the

> state of yin, yang, ying q, zong qi, etc. Also, I am not so sure

> these are qualities that could be measured by a computer device.

> More details about this program would be interesting.. . .

>

>

> On May 29, 2007, at 12:37 PM, rcooper1us wrote:

>

> > My wonderful and masterful Chinese doctor (acup and herbal) who is 72

> > years young and in practice for 50 years has been using a computer

> > program for a couple of years and is very serious about its value.

> > While holding a metal wand in one hand the patient then offers each

> > hand and foot to have the doctor hold a metal probe on each jing will

> > point (and i believe source pt...cant remember).

> >

> > The passage and amount of qi in the meridians is assessed and the

> > program gives other feedback, on the state of the yin, yang, zong

> > qi or

> > ying qi etc if there is a problem.

> > Quite amazing...he said the program cost $6,000.

> >

> > Has anyone seen this? any ideas on where to get this?

> >

> > R.Cooper

>

 

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