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Hi folks,

 

I would appreciate help with this case. I have treated him 14 times and had

some positive results but he is starting to despair that his esophagus will

ever heal. I have tried TCM treatments (Spleen deficiency with damp, Liver

stagnation), Kiiko style (blood stagnation in the abdomen) and Dr. So’s

treatment for esophageal stricture.

 

 

37 year old male scientist. Body type is tall and thin. Diagnosed with

mild gastritis and esophageal inflammation resulting from GERD. Doctor says

he has “pre-Barretts” esophagus.

 

Main complaint: Burning pain that moves around in his abdomen and

epigastrium. The most consistent pain is around CV 15; the area feels itchy

and gets irritated every time he eats. Sometimes the pain radiates around

the left side of the ribs and to the back. He also feels like food is

pushing upward against his esophagus when he lies down. Walking helps.

Symptoms are worst between 1-6pm and better at night. Symptoms range

between .5-2 out of 10 (10 is worst).

 

Symptoms began 10 years ago but have been worse since January. He has a

history of working late hours and eating large meals. Now he has restricted

his diet, cutting out acidic and spicy food, and is only eating mashed food

to alleviate the esophageal irritation. He lost 15 lbs since January but

has recently been able to put a few lbs back on.

 

Other symptoms: High stress over job and health, irritable, short tempered,

hard to let things go. Cough with white mucus in the morning and after big

meals. Arthritis in knees. Small purple spider veins along ribs.

 

Tongue: Very swollen, slightly purple, white thick greasy coat

 

Pulse: Thin and wiry, right side Kidney position weak. Sometimes Lung

and/or Spleen positions are also weak. Left Kidney sometimes feels

slippery.

 

Symptoms that have gone away during the course of treatment: Pulling

sensation at armpits, groin, and neck, swollen sensation in head, loose

stool with undigested food, tendency to feel chilled.

 

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Hello:

I would go onto the DogtorJ.com website to see the diet advice from Dr. John

Symes, a veterinarian whom has Crohn's disease himself. He has GERD diet

recommendations.He also has natural ways to treat epilepsy.This is not TCM

persee, but it definetly is Food Therapy.Today's processed foods contribute

to the symtoms.If the client had EFT done, this also does come from TCM and

the psychopsomatic disease cycle.Your work will allow him to be able to get

to and through the other changes that must take place.

 

 

Sincerely,

Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

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> Hi folks,

>

> I would appreciate help with this case. I have treated him 14 times and had

> some positive results but he is starting to despair that his esophagus will

> ever heal.

 

Are you trained with herbs? It seems like Bao He Wan with additions to

strengthen might

help.(Additions since his pulse is thin and not slippery, and he himself is thin

as well and

has lost weight) I've been adding Jiao Gu Lan to some of my formulas to

supplement. He

Ge Ye is also good for blockage sensation in the esophagus. Duan Mu LI might

help with

the burning if he has too much acid. He might also have burning from too little

stomach

acid though, so be careful.

This formula would be appropriate if he has a sensation of undigested food. It

treats only

the stagnations, not the root of the problem. If the food is blocked from

descending it

would be appropriate.

For REN 15 pain, oketsu is not used. Try Sp 6 or Sp 9 and see if that relieves

the pain, and

check the pericardium channel as well, for Kiiko's PC treatment.

 

Regards,

Gabrielle

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Emily, I am a Five Element acupuncturist and this guy's situation sounds like

Wood controlling Earth...have you discussed anger issues with him? I sense

a lot of irritation in bodymindspirit. I'd also recommend/teach him how to

meditate, and to use this to find out what is at the heart of the problem.

He apparently " can't stomach " whatever is bugging him. If it's worse between

1-6 pm, you're looking at Small Intestine, Bladder, and Kidney time. This

could mean that since Wood is overcontrolling Earth, Earth also controls

Water, which has collapsed.

 

On a more mundane level, what happens to him in the afternoon? Is he at

work, interacting with people he dislikes? Or doing projects he detests?

What is rubbing him the wrong way? I have a feeling some lifestyle changes

may be in order for him.

 

Certainly, treating Earth within Wood (i.e., Liv 3) could be important.

Although I imagine you've already treated the Four Gates....Liv 5 might

be helpful because it is " Insect Ditch " , and it sure sounds as if he is

in an insect ditch!

 

If you'd like more suggestions along the Five Element perspective, feel

free to contact me offline. Good luck!

 

Donna Greenberg

 

 

 

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Hi Emily,

 

I have some questions that may assist in making suggestions for your patient-

 

How frequently have you been treating him with acupuncture?

 

Is he taking any herbs? Medication? Antacids?

 

Are you treating the area around CV-15? Have you tried treating the

corresponding area on his back?

 

In addition to Spleen Qi vacuity and Liver Qi Stagnation, it sounds like he also

has rebellious Stomach Qi. Have you treated him for this? The purple spider

veins indicate not only Qi Stagnation, but also Blood Stagnation.

 

Does he have any trouble digesting fats? Is his diet high in fatty, fried or

rich foods? Does he have a history of gallbladder disease?

 

Does he have any signs or symptoms of heat or cold?

 

Based on the info below, I would treat him for food stagnation and rebellious

stomach qi, with liver qi and blood stagnation and underlying spleen qi vacuity.

I would make recommendations for a low-fat diet of simple, well-cooked foods

(lots of veggies, small amounts of grains and lean proteins, low fat, no spice

or acids). I would also recommend that he practice eating in a relaxed

environment and manner - this will likely be a significant life change for him -

and to have several very small meals per day, chew his food well before

swallowing, and maybe even learn to meditate before eating. Or take a short,

relaxed walk before eating, to get his qi moving.

 

I have seen a number of patients with symptoms that are similar to your

patients'.

I always look at backing the liver (wood) from invading the spleen and stomach

(earth) first, then strengthening earth imbalances second. I would also work on

calming the shen, and clearing any heat that may be present. Points that have

been useful for my patients include Liv-14, Liv-13, GB-24, GB-25, Ren-12, ST-44,

Liv-2, and Liv-3. I also often do ah-shi needling along the lower edge of the

ribcage if that area is tender, threading the area shallowly from the midline

towards the gallbladder channel. Other points I select depend on other signs

and symptoms of the patient. I would definitely treat Ren-15 on your patient,

since it bothers him so much.

 

I would also look at the pressure symptom he has in his esophagus, and ask

questions that may help you ferret out whether he also has plum pit qi. Ban Xia

Hou Po Tang, the formula for that, may ease may of his symptoms and the

underlying causes as well, with the exception of blood stagnation. You may want

to look at a variation of Xue Fu Zhu Yu Tang for that, with herbs that would

place greater emphasis on the stomach than the chest.

 

Good luck. Sounds like an interesting case that you can help alot. You may

need to see him a couple of times a week to make a big change, though, and then

reduce your frequency.

 

 

 

 

 

Emily Konstan <emilylists wrote: Hi folks,

 

I would appreciate help with this case. I have treated him 14 times and had

some positive results but he is starting to despair that his esophagus will

ever heal. I have tried TCM treatments (Spleen deficiency with damp, Liver

stagnation), Kiiko style (blood stagnation in the abdomen) and Dr. So’s

treatment for esophageal stricture.

 

 

37 year old male scientist. Body type is tall and thin. Diagnosed with

mild gastritis and esophageal inflammation resulting from GERD. Doctor says

he has “pre-Barretts” esophagus.

 

Main complaint: Burning pain that moves around in his abdomen and

epigastrium. The most consistent pain is around CV 15; the area feels itchy

and gets irritated every time he eats. Sometimes the pain radiates around

the left side of the ribs and to the back. He also feels like food is

pushing upward against his esophagus when he lies down. Walking helps.

Symptoms are worst between 1-6pm and better at night. Symptoms range

between .5-2 out of 10 (10 is worst).

 

Symptoms began 10 years ago but have been worse since January. He has a

history of working late hours and eating large meals. Now he has restricted

his diet, cutting out acidic and spicy food, and is only eating mashed food

to alleviate the esophageal irritation. He lost 15 lbs since January but

has recently been able to put a few lbs back on.

 

Other symptoms: High stress over job and health, irritable, short tempered,

hard to let things go. Cough with white mucus in the morning and after big

meals. Arthritis in knees. Small purple spider veins along ribs.

 

Tongue: Very swollen, slightly purple, white thick greasy coat

 

Pulse: Thin and wiry, right side Kidney position weak. Sometimes Lung

and/or Spleen positions are also weak. Left Kidney sometimes feels

slippery.

 

Symptoms that have gone away during the course of treatment: Pulling

sensation at armpits, groin, and neck, swollen sensation in head, loose

stool with undigested food, tendency to feel chilled.

 

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Hi Andrea,

 

Thanks to you and everyone else who shared their thoughts. To answer your

questions:

 

How frequently have you been treating him with acupuncture? I see him

twice a week, usually Tuesday and Saturday.

 

Is he taking any herbs? Medication? Antacids? He is on prescription

ranitidine and carafate. My colleague gave him homeopathics and I am trying

to convince him to take Chinese herbs, but he is worried that it will

aggravate his symptoms. He also likes to self-medicate with probiotics,

licorice, and other supplements (I don't have his file in front of me to

give more specifics.)

 

Are you treating the area around CV-15? Have you tried treating the

corresponding area on his back? I have treated CV 15 and 14, also BL

15 and 17 and the huatos of BL 15-18. Right now he does not want back

treatments because he says he feels pressure on his esophagus, even if I

treat him sitting up.

 

In addition to Spleen Qi vacuity and Liver Qi Stagnation, it sounds like he

also has rebellious Stomach Qi. Have you treated him for this? The purple

spider veins indicate not only Qi Stagnation, but also Blood Stagnation.

I think I have tried most of the usual suspects for rebellious ST Qi-- ST

43/44, LV 14, GB 24, CV 17/22, GB 21. I also tried bleeding the spider

veins but he did not respond well to that treatment. Interestingly, he does

not have any pressure pain on the abdomen, just the vague burning that moves

from place to place.

 

Does he have any trouble digesting fats? Is his diet high in fatty, fried

or rich foods? Does he have a history of gallbladder disease? No

problems with this that I know of. His diet right now is mostly mashed

veggies, oatmeal, rice, and a Boost shake. I sent him to a nutritionist who

wanted him to add more fiber, but he says that irritates his esophagus. He

has been pretty good about eating smaller portions and not drinking with his

meals

 

Does he have any signs or symptoms of heat or cold? For heat sx, just

the burning pain and maybe the irritability. He had been feeling chilled

easily, but he says that has gone away.

 

I had been doing mostly straight TCM style based on his patterns, but I

found the Dr. So treatment and we have been sticking with that for the past

5 visits. It is: LI 4, LU 7 and 9, ST 36 and 44, GB 21, CV 22, 12, 13, moxa

CV 16 and 17, BL 15 and 17 with needle and moxa (of course, we are skipping

the back treatment right now). The points pretty much fit his pattern

(although I'm not sure why choose the LU 7/9) , and it seems to be helping.

At his request, the second half of the treatment I focus on relaxation-- I

take out all the needles except LI 4, and add LV 3, PC 6, yintang, and

pressballs at shenmen.

 

He is a very worried guy and I am constantly encouraging him to stay

optimistic. This week he seems pretty happy and says that he is " stable. "

He is willing to come for 5 more treatments, so I am hoping he will notice

enough change and decide to continue with treatments.

 

Again, thanks to everyone for your help.

 

Emily

 

 

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Re: help requested, GERD case

Sun, 20 May 2007 09:17:30 -0700 (PDT)

 

Hi Emily,

 

I have some questions that may assist in making suggestions for your

patient-

 

How frequently have you been treating him with acupuncture?

 

Is he taking any herbs? Medication? Antacids?

 

Are you treating the area around CV-15? Have you tried treating the

corresponding area on his back?

 

In addition to Spleen Qi vacuity and Liver Qi Stagnation, it sounds like he

also has rebellious Stomach Qi. Have you treated him for this? The purple

spider veins indicate not only Qi Stagnation, but also Blood Stagnation.

 

Does he have any trouble digesting fats? Is his diet high in fatty, fried

or rich foods? Does he have a history of gallbladder disease?

 

Does he have any signs or symptoms of heat or cold?

 

Based on the info below, I would treat him for food stagnation and

rebellious stomach qi, with liver qi and blood stagnation and underlying

spleen qi vacuity. I would make recommendations for a low-fat diet of

simple, well-cooked foods (lots of veggies, small amounts of grains and lean

proteins, low fat, no spice or acids). I would also recommend that he

practice eating in a relaxed environment and manner - this will likely be a

significant life change for him - and to have several very small meals per

day, chew his food well before swallowing, and maybe even learn to meditate

before eating. Or take a short, relaxed walk before eating, to get his qi

moving.

 

I have seen a number of patients with symptoms that are similar to your

patients'.

I always look at backing the liver (wood) from invading the spleen and

stomach (earth) first, then strengthening earth imbalances second. I would

also work on calming the shen, and clearing any heat that may be present.

Points that have been useful for my patients include Liv-14, Liv-13, GB-24,

GB-25, Ren-12, ST-44, Liv-2, and Liv-3. I also often do ah-shi needling

along the lower edge of the ribcage if that area is tender, threading the

area shallowly from the midline towards the gallbladder channel. Other

points I select depend on other signs and symptoms of the patient. I would

definitely treat Ren-15 on your patient, since it bothers him so much.

 

I would also look at the pressure symptom he has in his esophagus, and ask

questions that may help you ferret out whether he also has plum pit qi. Ban

Xia Hou Po Tang, the formula for that, may ease may of his symptoms and the

underlying causes as well, with the exception of blood stagnation. You may

want to look at a variation of Xue Fu Zhu Yu Tang for that, with herbs that

would place greater emphasis on the stomach than the chest.

 

Good luck. Sounds like an interesting case that you can help alot. You may

need to see him a couple of times a week to make a big change, though, and

then reduce your frequency.

 

 

 

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