Acupuncture; sham acupuncture; moving points.

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Hi All,

 

 

Re:

 

 

> 1a. Acupuncture no better than sham in hypertension

> - SHARP Trial

> Posted by: " Dr. Greg Sperber "

> greg sperb1

> Sat May 5, 2007 4:41 am ((PDT))

>

> There is another issue here and where I think the

> current attacks are being

> based from biomedicine: the use of " sham

> acupuncture. " After looking at

> dozens of papers that compare acupuncture to sham

> acupuncture, here is the

> general scenario: let's get a valid acupuncture

> protocol with TCM

> practitioner input which invariably includes big,

> popular points such as LI

> 4, St 36, Sp 6. Then for a control, we will use sham

> acupuncture. When you

> read the methodology these " shams " are usually

> placed 1-2 cm from the actual

> acupuncture points. Of course, in these big points a

> centimeter or two is

> probably still on the actual point, not taking into

> account angle of

> insertion or depth (which are rarely mentioned in

> the methods despite the

> excellent STRICTA protocols). So we have a situation

> where the actual

> acupuncture points are essentially the same as the

> sham points. So if the

> study shows positive impact then the headline reads,

> as it did 6 months ago,

> " Migraines helped by acupuncture, sham acupuncture

> equally helpful. " This

> gives ammo to critics who simply say it obviously

> doesn't matter which point

> is chosen and therefore the " system " doesn't work.

> Or in the case of this

> paper, which doesn't have a non-treatment control,

> even though there was a

> reduction of blood pressure (which may or may not be

> statistically valid),

> the treatment was essentially the same as the

> control and therefore the

> treatment is invalid.

 

Years ago, I studied something called Jin Shin Do, a

form of accupressure. Classmates would practice on

one another. Often, my fingers would begin to burn as

they were applied to points. Frequently, I found the

points to " move " -- what I thought were points were

dead. Then, I would feel as if the points moved

toward my fingers. My fingers would begin to burn.

 

As students, we were required to practice on people.

 

 

The first person I worked on, a 26 year old woman,

nearly had a heart attack when she entered my

apartment to find my 2 cats. I poked around my books

(actually a series of pamphlets), said, " Let's try

this! "

 

After 1 session, my friend went out and got herself

a long-haired white cat and proceeded to become a

long-term cat owner.

 

The second friend I worked on had sprained his ankle

badly. He arrived on crutches as an almost cherry

red, ankle was refusing to heal. According to his

doctors, either the sympathetic or parasympathetic

nervous system was over-active and refused to " turn

off " . He was facing surgery to correct this (which

seems dumb to me). After one treatment, with my

poking around my pamphlets again, the sprained ankle

was normal in appearance and my friend could put

weight on it.

 

 

I did not get testimonials from these people, but

mention them to show how effective I found

acupressure, and maybe the idea of wandering " points "

is not so far fetched.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

 

Lapapu

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Anybody with any measure of understanding of Qi could not possibly believe that

acupoints are fixed. We may have to thank PRC's TCM for this misunderstanding,

but points do move and any clinician worth their salt palpates and finds the

point before inserting the needle.

 

Hugo

 

 

lapapu <lapapu

 

acupressure, and maybe the idea of wandering " points "

 

is not so far fetched.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Lapapu

 

 

 

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