Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hi All, Do any of you offer advice, information, or consultations through your websites? I am wondering what the possible pitfalls might be of doing this, and any legal implications. Thank you, Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 I've done online consultations and in my experience they don't work. This is because people either do not give importane to some of the questions or have never thought about how they feel. For example, people usually say their bowels are normal. And when asked if they feel hot, cold or normal, they will most of the time say normal, even though from our point of view they could be hot or cold. Coupled with the inability to do pulse and tongue diagnosis online and ask additional questions when needed, its just flawed. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine , Andrea Beth Damsky < wrote: > > Hi All, > > Do any of you offer advice, information, or consultations through your websites? I am wondering what the possible pitfalls might be of doing this, and any legal implications. > > Thank you, > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Thank you, Attilio, for your input. I'm aware of these limitations, and I'm wondering if there are any legal limitations as well? <attiliodalberto wrote: I've done online consultations and in my experience they don't work. This is because people either do not give importane to some of the questions or have never thought about how they feel. For example, people usually say their bowels are normal. And when asked if they feel hot, cold or normal, they will most of the time say normal, even though from our point of view they could be hot or cold. Coupled with the inability to do pulse and tongue diagnosis online and ask additional questions when needed, its just flawed. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine , Andrea Beth Damsky < wrote: > > Hi All, > > Do any of you offer advice, information, or consultations through your websites? I am wondering what the possible pitfalls might be of doing this, and any legal implications. > > Thank you, > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 i concur. thanks for sharing your views. its interesting to hear what others think. k On 4/16/07, <attiliodalberto wrote: > > I've done online consultations and in my experience they don't work. > This is because people either do not give importane to some of the > questions or have never thought about how they feel. For example, > people usually say their bowels are normal. And when asked if they > feel hot, cold or normal, they will most of the time say normal, even > though from our point of view they could be hot or cold. > > Coupled with the inability to do pulse and tongue diagnosis online > and ask additional questions when needed, its just flawed. > > Attilio > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > Andrea Beth > Damsky < wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Do any of you offer advice, information, or consultations through > your websites? I am wondering what the possible pitfalls might be of > doing this, and any legal implications. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I didn't answer that section of your post because i live in the UK and cannot give advice about legal issues outside of the UK. Here in the UK you cannot perform a consultation over the internet or telephone. The person has to be present in front of you. You cannot prescribe herbal medicine unless a consultation was performed with the patient present. If you give herbs out after conducting an online/telephone consultation and something goes wrong, your insurance company may not cover you because you didn't do a proper consultation. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine , Andrea Beth Damsky < wrote: > > Thank you, Attilio, for your input. I'm aware of these limitations, and I'm wondering if there are any legal limitations as well? > > > > <attiliodalberto wrote: I've done online consultations and in my experience they don't work. > This is because people either do not give importane to some of the > questions or have never thought about how they feel. For example, > people usually say their bowels are normal. And when asked if they > feel hot, cold or normal, they will most of the time say normal, even > though from our point of view they could be hot or cold. > > Coupled with the inability to do pulse and tongue diagnosis online > and ask additional questions when needed, its just flawed. > > Attilio > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Chinese Medicine , Andrea Beth > Damsky <@> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Do any of you offer advice, information, or consultations through > your websites? I am wondering what the possible pitfalls might be of > doing this, and any legal implications. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I wonder why you want to give consultations over Internet? How much stuff you miss if you do. You dont se the complexion of the person, neither you cannot hear the voice, the pitch of it, the strength in it, the ton. You also miss to evaluate the posture. You miss the opportunity to ask follow up qustions on stuff they say which leads to missing nuances. The person may not be completely honest, and you cannot see/hear that which you might do when the person is in front of you. Sometimes people tend to say what they think you want to hear, not exactly what thel feel and experience. In that case it is important to ask more questions to get a better feeling what might be the problem. Just some thoughts. /Peter Chinese Medicine , Andrea Beth Damsky < wrote: > > Hi All, > > Do any of you offer advice, information, or consultations through your websites? I am wondering what the possible pitfalls might be of doing this, and any legal implications. > > Thank you, > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 attilio: actually, it doesn't matter that the uk law doesn't apply here, the notes are still quite an interesting perspective and provides insights into the ethics of the practice. thank you for sharing your comments. k On 4/17/07, <attiliodalberto wrote: > > I didn't answer that section of your post because i live in the UK > and cannot give advice about legal issues outside of the UK. Here in > the UK you cannot perform a consultation over the internet or > telephone. The person has to be present in front of you. You cannot > prescribe herbal medicine unless a consultation was performed with > the patient present. If you give herbs out after conducting an > online/telephone consultation and something goes wrong, your > insurance company may not cover you because you didn't do a proper > consultation. > > Attilio > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > Andrea Beth > Damsky < wrote: > > > > Thank you, Attilio, for your input. I'm aware of these > limitations, and I'm wondering if there are any legal limitations as > well? > > > > > > > > <attiliodalberto > wrote: I've done online > consultations and in my experience they don't work. > > This is because people either do not give importane to some of the > > questions or have never thought about how they feel. For example, > > people usually say their bowels are normal. And when asked if they > > feel hot, cold or normal, they will most of the time say normal, > even > > though from our point of view they could be hot or cold. > > > > Coupled with the inability to do pulse and tongue diagnosis online > > and ask additional questions when needed, its just flawed. > > > > Attilio > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > Andrea Beth > > Damsky <@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Do any of you offer advice, information, or consultations > through > > your websites? I am wondering what the possible pitfalls might be > of > > doing this, and any legal implications. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 The California State Acupuncture Board also says that seeing the pulse and tongue are part of our practice that must be part of our diagnosis. They have come down on those L.Ac.'s who have set up web based herb sites. I don't know where the National Board stands on this. taiqi.com > On 4/17/07, <attiliodalberto wrote: > > > > I didn't answer that section of your post because i live in the UK > > and cannot give advice about legal issues outside of the UK. Here in > > the UK you cannot perform a consultation over the internet or > > telephone. The person has to be present in front of you. You cannot > > prescribe herbal medicine unless a consultation was performed with > > the patient present. If you give herbs out after conducting an > > online/telephone consultation and something goes wrong, your > > insurance company may not cover you because you didn't do a proper > > consultation. > > > > Attilio > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > Andrea Beth > > Damsky <@> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you, Attilio, for your input. I'm aware of these > > limitations, and I'm wondering if there are any legal limitations as > > well? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Thank you, Attilio. Of course the laws are local to where one lives, that makes perfect sense. What I'm looking at doing is making general lifestyle recommendations, including dietary, and offering other general information. I wouldn't prescribe herbs, and I don't take insurance, so those aren't issues. I'm wondering more about whether this is proscribed in the US, and whether I'd be limited to offering consultations only to people living in the states in which I'm licensed. Anyone have any ideas? Or how I might find out? <attiliodalberto wrote: I didn't answer that section of your post because i live in the UK and cannot give advice about legal issues outside of the UK. Here in the UK you cannot perform a consultation over the internet or telephone. The person has to be present in front of you. You cannot prescribe herbal medicine unless a consultation was performed with the patient present. If you give herbs out after conducting an online/telephone consultation and something goes wrong, your insurance company may not cover you because you didn't do a proper consultation. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine , Andrea Beth Damsky < wrote: > > Thank you, Attilio, for your input. I'm aware of these limitations, and I'm wondering if there are any legal limitations as well? > > > > <attiliodalberto wrote: I've done online consultations and in my experience they don't work. > This is because people either do not give importane to some of the > questions or have never thought about how they feel. For example, > people usually say their bowels are normal. And when asked if they > feel hot, cold or normal, they will most of the time say normal, even > though from our point of view they could be hot or cold. > > Coupled with the inability to do pulse and tongue diagnosis online > and ask additional questions when needed, its just flawed. > > Attilio > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Chinese Medicine , Andrea Beth > Damsky <@> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Do any of you offer advice, information, or consultations through > your websites? I am wondering what the possible pitfalls might be of > doing this, and any legal implications. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Thanks, Doug. I wouldn't be making a diagnosis, but offering information. Lots of folks are hungry for information about how would address their health issues, and I want to extend my reach beyond my local area. I kind of view it more as a way to teach people about their options, than to treat them. I guess I also miss my former teaching days! wrote: The California State Acupuncture Board also says that seeing the pulse and tongue are part of our practice that must be part of our diagnosis. They have come down on those L.Ac.'s who have set up web based herb sites. I don't know where the National Board stands on this. taiqi.com > On 4/17/07, <attiliodalberto wrote: > > > > I didn't answer that section of your post because i live in the UK > > and cannot give advice about legal issues outside of the UK. Here in > > the UK you cannot perform a consultation over the internet or > > telephone. The person has to be present in front of you. You cannot > > prescribe herbal medicine unless a consultation was performed with > > the patient present. If you give herbs out after conducting an > > online/telephone consultation and something goes wrong, your > > insurance company may not cover you because you didn't do a proper > > consultation. > > > > Attilio > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > Andrea Beth > > Damsky <@> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you, Attilio, for your input. I'm aware of these > > limitations, and I'm wondering if there are any legal limitations as > > well? > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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