Dr Tan method

April 5, 2007

I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have both of his

boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this method, cept

for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am I doing

wrong?

Thanks Steve

April 5, 2007

This method is fantastic. If you don't knw how to use

it properly you will not get the results. There are

the 5 balancing methods, and there is also the

internal global balancing using the Fu Xi gua from the

I Ching. Oh yeah there is also the seasonal balance

method. All these methods are using the antique

points ( very powerful stuff) I would suggest going

to another siminar. The books are great but by know

means are they a substitute for the siminar. That

would be the same as doing yoga from a dvd instead of

being taught by a qualified teacher. Try all the

methods. If one isn't giving you results it is

probably a mistake from the practitioner. We are all

human so mistakes happen. But what matters most is

not whose technique is superior, It is how it effects

our patients. Many paths to the same destination.

Good luck.

TM

--- snydez99 <snydez99 wrote:

> I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I

> also have both of his

> boooks. I have never really gotten good results by

> this method, cept

> for headaches. I have mainly used the first method.

> What am I doing

> wrong?

> Thanks Steve

>

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April 5, 2007

Take a class from Dr Wei-Chieh Young if you can. This is where Dr

Tan's method originated so it might help put the pieces together for

you.

Kelvin

Chinese Medicine , " snydez99 "

<snydez99 wrote:

>

> I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have both of

his

> boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this method, cept

> for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am I doing

> wrong?

> Thanks Steve

>

April 5, 2007

Hi Steve,

Headaches are risen from different causes, based only in one source is

not recommended. Beside, all seminars I have gone through to get

credits. They are all in business of making a show. I have not seen a

good one yet.

Some headaches are not easy cases. The best is to get a thorough

history and what causes ( How, where, when ... ) and lifestyle.

Usually good diagnosis will give us a good treatment plan and

confidence. If your treatment does not bring any effects, ask your

associations or refer to family physician for further exams. First try

to eliminate any related emotional problem.

Good luck!

Chinese Medicine , " snydez99 "

<snydez99 wrote:

>

> I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have both of his

> boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this method, cept

> for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am I doing

> wrong?

> Thanks Steve

>

April 6, 2007

It is both the teachings of Master Tung and Dr. Chao Chen (I Ching

Acupuncture) that provided the basis of Dr. Tan's original work, he

has developed his own methods based on his clinical practice too.

regards,

david

Chinese Medicine ,

" acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills wrote:

>

> Take a class from Dr Wei-Chieh Young if you can. This is where Dr

> Tan's method originated so it might help put the pieces together for

> you.

>

> Kelvin

>

> Chinese Medicine , " snydez99 "

> <snydez99@> wrote:

> >

> > I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have both of

> his

> > boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this method, cept

> > for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am I doing

> > wrong?

> > Thanks Steve

> >

>

April 6, 2007

Both Dr Carson in TO and Dr Young told me that Master Tung never

taught, he just said " watch and figure it out. " Seems Dr Wei-Chieh

Young either figured it out, or is on the path to doing so. One of

the reasons I'm learning Chinese is to be able to read the hundreds

of books Dr Young has written from Feng Shui to I Ching Acupuncture

to how points from tungs system to the twelve meridian system are

named and why. He has treated over 400,000 patients in many parts of

the world and is one of the most famous acupuncturists in Asia.

Not many like him, seriously take one of his seminars.

Incidentally, he has just decided to learn English by the end of next

year so he can teach more over here.

Kelvin

--- In

Chinese Medicine , " flyingstarsfengshui "

<flyingstarsfengshui wrote:

>

> It is both the teachings of Master Tung and Dr. Chao Chen (I Ching

> Acupuncture) that provided the basis of Dr. Tan's original work, he

> has developed his own methods based on his clinical practice too.

>

> regards,

>

> david

>

> Chinese Medicine ,

> " acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills@> wrote:

> >

> > Take a class from Dr Wei-Chieh Young if you can. This is where

Dr

> > Tan's method originated so it might help put the pieces together

for

> > you.

> >

> > Kelvin

> >

> > Chinese Medicine , " snydez99 "

> > <snydez99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have

both of

> > his

> > > boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this method,

cept

> > > for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am I

doing

> > > wrong?

> > > Thanks Steve

> > >

> >

>

April 6, 2007

So Kelvin, do we need to learn Chinese to take one of his seminars? If the

answer is no, let me know where and when he gives them.

I used a Master Tung point once and I couldn't believe the instant results.

Would like to take a seminar just on that.

I also use Tan with a lot of success. Taught myself (as I live in the country).

Then went to three seminars someone from my school taught. It was basicially to

deciper the Tan material and it was great. We had a clinic day too that made it

even richer.

For whoever said they didn't have good results, start with the Master points,

Ling Ku, Da Bai, and Zhong Bai (I also add LI 3)(oppositie side) for

backpain/sciaticia. If pain in across the whole lower back, do both sides,

starting with the side that is most sensitive. The first time I did this with a

long-time patient of mine, her pain went away on the table (it was acute).

Anne

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills

> Both Dr Carson in TO and Dr Young told me that Master Tung never

> taught, he just said " watch and figure it out. " Seems Dr Wei-Chieh

> Young either figured it out, or is on the path to doing so. One of

> the reasons I'm learning Chinese is to be able to read the hundreds

> of books Dr Young has written from Feng Shui to I Ching Acupuncture

> to how points from tungs system to the twelve meridian system are

> named and why. He has treated over 400,000 patients in many parts of

> the world and is one of the most famous acupuncturists in Asia.

> Not many like him, seriously take one of his seminars.

>

> Incidentally, he has just decided to learn English by the end of next

> year so he can teach more over here.

>

> Kelvin

>

> --- In

> Chinese Medicine , " flyingstarsfengshui "

> <flyingstarsfengshui wrote:

> >

> > It is both the teachings of Master Tung and Dr. Chao Chen (I Ching

> > Acupuncture) that provided the basis of Dr. Tan's original work, he

> > has developed his own methods based on his clinical practice too.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > david

> >

> > Chinese Medicine ,

> > " acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Take a class from Dr Wei-Chieh Young if you can. This is where

> Dr

> > > Tan's method originated so it might help put the pieces together

> for

> > > you.

> > >

> > > Kelvin

> > >

> > > Chinese Medicine , " snydez99 "

> > > <snydez99@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have

> both of

> > > his

> > > > boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this method,

> cept

> > > > for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am I

> doing

> > > > wrong?

> > > > Thanks Steve

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 6, 2007

Yes and no. He has seminars with translaters so you'll get most of

it, but since it's longer to have what you say translated, it will

have less info compared to the same time given to one without a

translater. Google him and you'll find his website and his schedule.

Kelvin

Chinese Medicine , anne.crowley

wrote:

>

> So Kelvin, do we need to learn Chinese to take one of his

seminars? If the answer is no, let me know where and when he gives

them.

>

> I used a Master Tung point once and I couldn't believe the instant

results. Would like to take a seminar just on that.

>

> I also use Tan with a lot of success. Taught myself (as I live in

the country). Then went to three seminars someone from my school

taught. It was basicially to deciper the Tan material and it was

great. We had a clinic day too that made it even richer.

>

> For whoever said they didn't have good results, start with the

Master points, Ling Ku, Da Bai, and Zhong Bai (I also add LI 3)

(oppositie side) for backpain/sciaticia. If pain in across the whole

lower back, do both sides, starting with the side that is most

sensitive. The first time I did this with a long-time patient of

mine, her pain went away on the table (it was acute).

>

> Anne

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> " acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills

> > Both Dr Carson in TO and Dr Young told me that Master Tung never

> > taught, he just said " watch and figure it out. " Seems Dr Wei-

Chieh

> > Young either figured it out, or is on the path to doing so. One

of

> > the reasons I'm learning Chinese is to be able to read the

hundreds

> > of books Dr Young has written from Feng Shui to I Ching

Acupuncture

> > to how points from tungs system to the twelve meridian system are

> > named and why. He has treated over 400,000 patients in many

parts of

> > the world and is one of the most famous acupuncturists in Asia.

> > Not many like him, seriously take one of his seminars.

> >

> > Incidentally, he has just decided to learn English by the end of

> >

> > Kelvin

> >

> > --- In

> >

Chinese Medicine , " flyingstarsfengshui "

> > <flyingstarsfengshui@> wrote:

> > >

> > > It is both the teachings of Master Tung and Dr. Chao Chen (I

Ching

> > > Acupuncture) that provided the basis of Dr. Tan's original

work, he

> > > has developed his own methods based on his clinical practice

too.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > david

> > >

> > > Chinese Medicine ,

> > > " acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Take a class from Dr Wei-Chieh Young if you can. This is

where

> > Dr

> > > > Tan's method originated so it might help put the pieces

together

> > for

> > > > you.

> > > >

> > > > Kelvin

> > > >

> > > > --- In

Chinese Medicine , " snydez99 "

> > > > <snydez99@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have

> > both of

> > > > his

> > > > > boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this

method,

> > cept

> > > > > for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am

I

> > doing

> > > > > wrong?

> > > > > Thanks Steve

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 6, 2007

If your talking about Richard Tan his workshops are in English.

Go to his web site to find out where he will be. (Google him)

He will be in Flushing NY in a week or 2.

_____

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of

acupuncturebeverlyhills

Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:12 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: Dr Tan method

Yes and no. He has seminars with translaters so you'll get most of

it, but since it's longer to have what you say translated, it will

have less info compared to the same time given to one without a

translater. Google him and you'll find his website and his schedule.

Kelvin

Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>

Chinese_Medicine , anne.crowley

wrote:

>

> So Kelvin, do we need to learn Chinese to take one of his

seminars? If the answer is no, let me know where and when he gives

them.

>

> I used a Master Tung point once and I couldn't believe the instant

results. Would like to take a seminar just on that.

>

> I also use Tan with a lot of success. Taught myself (as I live in

the country). Then went to three seminars someone from my school

taught. It was basicially to deciper the Tan material and it was

great. We had a clinic day too that made it even richer.

>

> For whoever said they didn't have good results, start with the

Master points, Ling Ku, Da Bai, and Zhong Bai (I also add LI 3)

(oppositie side) for backpain/sciaticia. If pain in across the whole

lower back, do both sides, starting with the side that is most

sensitive. The first time I did this with a long-time patient of

mine, her pain went away on the table (it was acute).

>

> Anne

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> " acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills

> > Both Dr Carson in TO and Dr Young told me that Master Tung never

> > taught, he just said " watch and figure it out. " Seems Dr Wei-

Chieh

> > Young either figured it out, or is on the path to doing so. One

of

> > the reasons I'm learning Chinese is to be able to read the

hundreds

> > of books Dr Young has written from Feng Shui to I Ching

Acupuncture

> > to how points from tungs system to the twelve meridian system are

> > named and why. He has treated over 400,000 patients in many

parts of

> > the world and is one of the most famous acupuncturists in Asia.

> > Not many like him, seriously take one of his seminars.

> >

> > Incidentally, he has just decided to learn English by the end of

> >

> > Kelvin

> >

> > --- In

> >

Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>

Chinese_Medicine , " flyingstarsfengshui "

> > <flyingstarsfengshui@> wrote:

> > >

> > > It is both the teachings of Master Tung and Dr. Chao Chen (I

Ching

> > > Acupuncture) that provided the basis of Dr. Tan's original

work, he

> > > has developed his own methods based on his clinical practice

too.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > david

> > >

> > > Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine ,

> > > " acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Take a class from Dr Wei-Chieh Young if you can. This is

where

> > Dr

> > > > Tan's method originated so it might help put the pieces

together

> > for

> > > > you.

> > > >

> > > > Kelvin

> > > >

> > > > --- In

Traditional_ <Chinese Medicine%40>

Chinese_Medicine , " snydez99 "

> > > > <snydez99@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have

> > both of

> > > > his

> > > > > boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this

method,

> > cept

> > > > > for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am

I

> > doing

> > > > > wrong?

> > > > > Thanks Steve

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 6, 2007

steve, thx 4 asking. first, ditto 2 tom's comments. you would do well 2 buy dr

tan's 3rd bk. it's wonderful to have that, easy 2 carry and reference. all the

methods in one place, so much more info, sample patterns. i went 2 my 1st

seminar in 95, starting doing tan pts in my student clinic tx's. his 3rd bk came

out not long after my 2nd seminar ~7 yrs ago. last yr i went 2 my 3rd, and

finally got his 3rd bk. my tx already worked, but this has juiced my txs. if one

tx just isn't quite it, good but not great, i change pattern next time. i am

more aware now when i'm 'neglecting' any pattern. don't be too attached to,

habitual with, that 1st pattern. approach it like a different language, or

dialect, try different patterns every excuse you find. have fun. p.s. last

summer, i bought a piezo pt stimulator at dr tan's workshop. i carry it

everywhere. when u know effective distal pts, it's helpful for folks you know,

do a few pts for a friend in pain, or about to hurl! and helps

acup awareness, of course. lynn

[snydez99] wrote:

I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have both of his

boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this method, cept

for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am I doing

wrong?

Thanks Steve

April 9, 2007

No we weren't, please re-read the posts.

Kelvin

Chinese Medicine , Ron & Maria

Kuriloff <rmkuriloff wrote:

>

> If your talking about Richard Tan his workshops are in English.

> Go to his web site to find out where he will be. (Google him)

> He will be in Flushing NY in a week or 2.

>

> _____

April 12, 2007

anne:

do you combine with tcm, or just use dr.tan?

kath

On 4/5/07, anne.crowley <anne.crowley wrote:

>

> So Kelvin, do we need to learn Chinese to take one of his seminars? If

> the answer is no, let me know where and when he gives them.

>

> I used a Master Tung point once and I couldn't believe the instant

> results. Would like to take a seminar just on that.

>

> I also use Tan with a lot of success. Taught myself (as I live in the

> country). Then went to three seminars someone from my school taught. It was

> basicially to deciper the Tan material and it was great. We had a clinic day

> too that made it even richer.

>

> For whoever said they didn't have good results, start with the Master

> points, Ling Ku, Da Bai, and Zhong Bai (I also add LI 3)(oppositie side) for

> backpain/sciaticia. If pain in across the whole lower back, do both sides,

> starting with the side that is most sensitive. The first time I did this

> with a long-time patient of mine, her pain went away on the table (it was

> acute).

>

> Anne

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> " acupuncturebeverlyhills "

<acupuncturebeverlyhills<acupuncturebeverlyhills%40>

> >

> > Both Dr Carson in TO and Dr Young told me that Master Tung never

> > taught, he just said " watch and figure it out. " Seems Dr Wei-Chieh

> > Young either figured it out, or is on the path to doing so. One of

> > the reasons I'm learning Chinese is to be able to read the hundreds

> > of books Dr Young has written from Feng Shui to I Ching Acupuncture

> > to how points from tungs system to the twelve meridian system are

> > named and why. He has treated over 400,000 patients in many parts of

> > the world and is one of the most famous acupuncturists in Asia.

> > Not many like him, seriously take one of his seminars.

> >

> > Incidentally, he has just decided to learn English by the end of next

> > year so he can teach more over here.

> >

> > Kelvin

> >

> > --- In

> >

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> " flyingstarsfengshui "

> > <flyingstarsfengshui wrote:

> > >

> > > It is both the teachings of Master Tung and Dr. Chao Chen (I Ching

> > > Acupuncture) that provided the basis of Dr. Tan's original work, he

> > > has developed his own methods based on his clinical practice too.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > david

> > >

> > > --- In

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>

> ,

> > > " acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Take a class from Dr Wei-Chieh Young if you can. This is where

> > Dr

> > > > Tan's method originated so it might help put the pieces together

> > for

> > > > you.

> > > >

> > > > Kelvin

> > > >

> > > > --- In

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> " snydez99 "

> > > > <snydez99@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have

> > both of

> > > > his

> > > > > boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this method,

> > cept

> > > > > for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am I

> > doing

> > > > > wrong?

> > > > > Thanks Steve

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 12, 2007

steve:

i just took my first Dr. Tan weekend in march and have recently read the

first 2 books (balance method & 12 & 12). i have started integrating his

approach in clinic, and have been amazed: the results have been excellent

thus far. i'm taking baby steps into it. during the seminar, he gave a

couple of general tx using the 8 magic points, one for what he described

as front of body issues: allergies, g/i, yang ming. the second for emo

issues. i've gotten great results with both, and also combining with master

tong pts for pain: knee and back. results are dramatic, as promised. the

practitioners i spoke with at the seminar who have been using his approach

say not to combine it with tcm, do straight dr. tan solely. that is what i

have been doing.

there is a forum on his website where you can describe what you are doing

and get feedback. maybe that could provide some guidance for you.

hope this helps,

kath

On 4/5/07, acupuncturebeverlyhills <acupuncturebeverlyhills

wrote:

>

> Take a class from Dr Wei-Chieh Young if you can. This is where Dr

> Tan's method originated so it might help put the pieces together for

> you.

>

> Kelvin

>

> --- In

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> " snydez99 "

> <snydez99 wrote:

> >

> > I went to a seminar by Dr Tan many years ago, I also have both of

> his

> > boooks. I have never really gotten good results by this method, cept

> > for headaches. I have mainly used the first method. What am I doing

> > wrong?

> > Thanks Steve

> >

>

--

Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

Oriental Medicine

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

kbartlett

www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

April 12, 2007

I am getting interested in Tan method. Is anyone having the used books for sale?

Please contact me at the email address below.

I am also looking for " Points for Profits " at a used price.

..

Sincerely,

Angela Pfaffenberger, PhD

PS. We have moved and my email address has changed.

My new address is:

angela.pf

Phone: 503 589 9825

Cell: 503 453 0526 (Portland exchange)

Mailing address:

8678 Skyline Road

Salem, OR 97306

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:27 PM

Re: Re: Dr Tan method