Vegetarianism diet and lifestyle - john kokko

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I noticed the same thing. Vegetarian, living in Zen Centers for almost a

decade, I noticed how much sugary stuff people ate. I always had blood

sugar problems - I would crash. I ate a varied diet, lots of good

proteins of veg variety, but nothing changed my endurance problem and

sweet tooth until I started eating animal protein again. Now I just

don't have the problem - I eat a meal at 7:00AM, last until at least

1:00PM, and then perfectly happy until around 7:00PM. I am lucky in that

I raise my own chickens for eggs, and all my meat comes from either

hunting (my father in law hunts elk, deer, geese, etc.) or local cows

raised in pastures by neighbors (not stuffed with corn).

 

I really believe that individual constitution and lifestyle determine

how well folks adapt to vegetarianism. I never once stopped craving meat

for 7 years, occasionally sneaking into Burger King once or twice a year

or so. But others I've noticed never look back.

 

And the idea of yin and yang temperments deriving from diet rings true -

I have become much more ambitious and aggressive since eating meat

again, much to my delight most of the time, though of course new desires

create their own suffering. I sometimes wish I could go back to being

more bovine. Sometimes. Honestly, though, it's a great feeling to know I

can run for 10 miles now if I want to, instead of pooping out after 1

like before. Not to say that is inherent in the diet - there are plenty

of successful vegetarian athletes. I think, though, that my eating meat

(consciously, at least - lean, naturally raised) compensates for some

self-denigrating aspects of my nature and forces more confrontation: I

am closer to having a hunter's mind. And meat, being so compact a source

of energy, offers a surplus of energy and nutrients(especially C and B

vitamins) that can buffer enormous amounts of stress. If you are very

stressed out, and eating veg, then I think the sugar cravings come up in

response. In Korea, when I lived in a Zen temple, it was common to hear

folks say that living vegetarian was good in the temple, but in the city

you had to eat meat. I think that reflects the effects of stress on

nutrient use. Also, in the city, especially Seoul, you need to be quite

aggressive all the time to get what you need; it can be a brutal place.

A lot harder to keep up a lifestyle of endless chewing and cooking....

So, I heartily endorse the good work of my vegetarian brothers and

sisters. I only hope you have some patience and respect for those that

don't follow.

Ben Hawes, L.Ac.

 

 

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:12 pm (PST)

 

Mainly in clinic, the vegetarians seem to be more blood def.

I'm not sure about yang def.

plants are considered yang in the sense that they are light and

quick qi.

Animals are more yin, in the sense that they are heavier and slower

and more

solid qi.

I guess it depends on the way that you look at it.

 

When I was a lacto-vegetarian (7 years w/ eggs and dairy only), I felt

lighter, faster and clearer emotionally.

However, I had pride that I was not eating meat and that isolated me

from

some people.

In Tibetan philosophy, there are cold hells as well as hot ones.

In the cold ones, you get proud people.

In the hot ones, you get angry people.

This is kind of how I saw vegetarians (colder- more proud)

and meat-eaters (hotter-more angry).

 

However, as a lacto-vegetarian I could not endure as long and often

would

crash in the late afternoon.

That would make me want to eat chocolate and sweets.

I'm wondering if my body wanted to balance the alkalinity with some

acids.

Have you noticed how Whole Foods has a huge double organic chocolate and

organic sugary stuff section.

In fact I noticed that most of my friends who were vegetarian,

needed their sweet fix more than meat eaters.

That could also be because their SP qi was weaker, eating a lot of

raw foods

and needed a bit of sweet flavor in their diets.

 

Also, there's the whole notion of blood types and fast and slow

metabolizers

and doshas and element types.

Since I'm predominately pitta, a mainly vegetarian diet is better to

keep me

in balance.

Also, I'm a blood type A, which means more vegetables and less meat.

If I was O type, then maybe more meat, especially beef to fuel a

busy hunter

lifestyle.

 

Now I eat anything I want and am happy with that.

Trying to eat organic and in season.

Just need to exercise more and get more off-time.

Like to hear what you successful vegetarians and meat-eaters do to

balance

your bodies and souls.

k.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Benjamin Howes wrote:

I sometimes wish I could go back to being more bovine.

 

Hey hey, come on now. Some respect...

 

Mooo...

 

Hugo

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

No disrespect intended, Hugo. Sorry about that. I meant it in the

herbivorous, contented way that I felt during my vegetarian years. Bulls

are herbivores, of course, and they are hardly pushovers...

-Ben

 

 

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Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:42 pm (PST)

 

Benjamin Howes wrote:

I sometimes wish I could go back to being more bovine.

 

Hey hey, come on now. Some respect...

 

Mooo...

 

Hugo