Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Can someone with limited vision perform acupuncture? And is vision the main key to performing acupuncture or is located the correct points by palpating most important? Thanks, Kathy C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Ms. Carter, In Japan, there's a long tradition for blind acupuncture practitioners. It used to be a proffesion of choice for the visually impared in Japan from the 1600s and on til recent times - There are quite a few colleges in Japan teaching acupuncture to the blind or visually impared today. A hallmark of acupuncture in Japan even today is the emphasis on palpation in both diagnosis (pulse, abdomen, mu/shu, channels, ashii, etc.) as well as in finding " Live " points used for treatments - points that are active and not just indicated for a pattern/symptom making a very touch oriented style of therapy as well as very dynamic one - vision is not a prerequisite to practice acupuncture - but it can be a valuable tool. Kindly, Thomas Sorensen PA, RAB Denmark 2007/3/16, Kathy Carter <savatree33: > > Can someone with limited vision perform acupuncture? And is vision the > main key to performing acupuncture or is located the correct points by > palpating most important? > > Thanks, > > Kathy C > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Hi Kathy, I've heard of blind acupuncturists. Artemis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Thank you Thomas for this information. It is greatly appreciated. The reason I asked this questions is because I have vision in only one eye and I am having to prove to government officials that acupuncture can be performed with our with vision. It's very helpful to hear what I've been saying all along from others. Thanks again, Kathy C Thomas Sørensen <aikinohari wrote: Ms. Carter, In Japan, there's a long tradition for blind acupuncture practitioners. It used to be a proffesion of choice for the visually impared in Japan from the 1600s and on til recent times - There are quite a few colleges in Japan teaching acupuncture to the blind or visually impared today. A hallmark of acupuncture in Japan even today is the emphasis on palpation in both diagnosis (pulse, abdomen, mu/shu, channels, ashii, etc.) as well as in finding " Live " points used for treatments - points that are active and not just indicated for a pattern/symptom making a very touch oriented style of therapy as well as very dynamic one - vision is not a prerequisite to practice acupuncture - but it can be a valuable tool. Kindly, Thomas Sorensen PA, RAB Denmark 2007/3/16, Kathy Carter <savatree33: > > Can someone with limited vision perform acupuncture? And is vision the > main key to performing acupuncture or is located the correct points by > palpating most important? > > Thanks, > > Kathy C > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 No problem! Here's a link to an article on Japanese Acup., an outline of it's history and more that might be helpful: http://www.itmonline.org/arts/japacu.htm Hope this helps! Thomas 2007/3/16, Kathy Carter <savatree33: > > Thank you Thomas for this information. It is greatly appreciated. The > reason I asked this questions is because I have vision in only one eye and I > am having to prove to government officials that acupuncture can be performed > with our with vision. It's very helpful to hear what I've been saying all > along from others. > > Thanks again, > > Kathy C > > > > Thomas Sørensen <aikinohari <aikinohari%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Ms. Carter, > > In Japan, there's a long tradition for blind acupuncture practitioners. It > used to be a proffesion of choice for the visually impared in Japan from > the > 1600s and on til recent times - There are quite a few colleges in Japan > teaching acupuncture to the blind or visually impared today. > > A hallmark of acupuncture in Japan even today is the emphasis on palpation > in both diagnosis (pulse, abdomen, mu/shu, channels, ashii, etc.) as well > as > in finding " Live " points used for treatments - points that are active and > not just indicated for a pattern/symptom making a very touch oriented > style > of therapy as well as very dynamic one - vision is not a prerequisite to > practice acupuncture - but it can be a valuable tool. > > Kindly, > > Thomas Sorensen > PA, RAB > Denmark > > 2007/3/16, Kathy Carter <savatree33 <savatree33%40>>: > > > > Can someone with limited vision perform acupuncture? And is vision the > > main key to performing acupuncture or is located the correct points by > > palpating most important? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kathy C > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 No problem! Here's a link to an article on Japanese Acup., an outline of it's history and more that might be helpful: www.itmonline.org/arts/japacu.htm Hope this helps! Thomas 2007/3/16, Thomas Sørensen <aikinohari: > > No problem! > > Here's a link to an article on Japanese Acup., an outline of it's history > and more that might be helpful: > > http://www.itmonline.org/arts/japacu.htm > > Hope this helps! > > Thomas > > 2007/3/16, Kathy Carter <savatree33: > > > > Thank you Thomas for this information. It is greatly appreciated. The > > reason I asked this questions is because I have vision in only one eye and I > > am having to prove to government officials that acupuncture can be performed > > with our with vision. It's very helpful to hear what I've been saying all > > along from others. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Kathy C > > > > > > > > Thomas Sørensen <aikinohari <aikinohari%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > Ms. Carter, > > > > In Japan, there's a long tradition for blind acupuncture practitioners. > > It > > used to be a proffesion of choice for the visually impared in Japan from > > the > > 1600s and on til recent times - There are quite a few colleges in Japan > > teaching acupuncture to the blind or visually impared today. > > > > A hallmark of acupuncture in Japan even today is the emphasis on > > palpation > > in both diagnosis (pulse, abdomen, mu/shu, channels, ashii, etc.) as > > well as > > in finding " Live " points used for treatments - points that are active > > and > > not just indicated for a pattern/symptom making a very touch oriented > > style > > of therapy as well as very dynamic one - vision is not a prerequisite to > > practice acupuncture - but it can be a valuable tool. > > > > Kindly, > > > > Thomas Sorensen > > PA, RAB > > Denmark > > > > 2007/3/16, Kathy Carter <savatree33 <savatree33%40>>: > > > > > > Can someone with limited vision perform acupuncture? And is vision the > > > main key to performing acupuncture or is located the correct points by > > > palpating most important? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kathy C > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Hi Kathy, When I was in acupuncture school, I heard professors tell stories of blind persons who had become acupuncturists. So it is indeed possible, though the licensing exams might present a huge hurdle, particularly for the visual put-the-dot-on-the-body point location part of the NCCAOM exam I took 6 years ago. Heck, even seeing people had trouble with that. When I was a student, we were taught to locate points in several ways. The first was by memorizing where they were " supposed " to be found, as every point has a distinct location. The second was by learning how to palpate the structures surrounding the point. The third was by using proportional body measurements. The fourth was to be able to visually identify points on a model that had been previously located with adhesive dots by the instructor. Obviously, this last one could not be done by a sightless person. I have to say vision is not the most important element to properly administering acupuncture, or there are many important components. Accurate diagnosis is the most important thing, along with creating a corresponding treatment plan. Knowing the functions of the points and how they work together is the next in importance, in my experience. Then choosing the proper size of needles and knowing how to manipulate them, if at all. Then comes the part which addresses your question, and I believe, having tutored many students in acupuncture point location, that it is entirely possible to locate the points correctly without having to see them. That said, it is essential to make sure all needles are removed at the conclusion of a treatment, and to properly care for any bruising which might occur. I don't know how a sightless person would address this. And we are prohibited from treating specific things, such as rashes, moles, warts, and other skin conditions, which mightnot be detectable by someone who could not see them. I hope this helps. Blessings, Kathy Carter <savatree33 wrote: Can someone with limited vision perform acupuncture? And is vision the main key to performing acupuncture or is located the correct points by palpating most important? Thanks, Kathy C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Andrea, Thank you so much for responding to my email. The information is very helpful and appreciated. Kathy C < wrote: Hi Kathy, When I was in acupuncture school, I heard professors tell stories of blind persons who had become acupuncturists. So it is indeed possible, though the licensing exams might present a huge hurdle, particularly for the visual put-the-dot-on-the-body point location part of the NCCAOM exam I took 6 years ago. Heck, even seeing people had trouble with that. When I was a student, we were taught to locate points in several ways. The first was by memorizing where they were " supposed " to be found, as every point has a distinct location. The second was by learning how to palpate the structures surrounding the point. The third was by using proportional body measurements. The fourth was to be able to visually identify points on a model that had been previously located with adhesive dots by the instructor. Obviously, this last one could not be done by a sightless person. I have to say vision is not the most important element to properly administering acupuncture, or there are many important components. Accurate diagnosis is the most important thing, along with creating a corresponding treatment plan. Knowing the functions of the points and how they work together is the next in importance, in my experience. Then choosing the proper size of needles and knowing how to manipulate them, if at all. Then comes the part which addresses your question, and I believe, having tutored many students in acupuncture point location, that it is entirely possible to locate the points correctly without having to see them. That said, it is essential to make sure all needles are removed at the conclusion of a treatment, and to properly care for any bruising which might occur. I don't know how a sightless person would address this. And we are prohibited from treating specific things, such as rashes, moles, warts, and other skin conditions, which mightnot be detectable by someone who could not see them. I hope this helps. Blessings, Kathy Carter <savatree33 wrote: Can someone with limited vision perform acupuncture? And is vision the main key to performing acupuncture or is located the correct points by palpating most important? Thanks, Kathy C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 In China, there were acupuncturist that were blind and a school that was developed for them.I believe this was because one of the Dynastys Emperor did not want his women being looked at.I personally have seen the training for blind tui na practitioners in West Lake area of China. Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology Kathy Carter <savatree33 Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine Limited Vision Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Can someone with limited vision perform acupuncture? And is vision the main key to performing acupuncture or is located the correct points by palpating most important? Thanks, Kathy C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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