Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:04:29 +0000, mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote: >>So who do you like of those PhD programs in CA? I know of several who used to offer these like Yuin, Global, Liberty and recently AUCM. I think that of the current PhD's in TCM/OM AUCM seems to be the best and most respected due to Jeffrey Yuen and Kiiko Matsumoto being primary instructors. First, one has to be clear that American Global, and (my impression) American Liberty are for those who just want to hang the initials after their name with the least possible effort i.e. questionable if not fraudulent. (There was another 'PhD', offered by one of the big-name TCM colleges in the LA area too, some years ago, that also was fraudulent. I recall Marilyn Nielson long-time executive director of the Calif. Acup. Board -mentioning how the CAB the BPPVE, and the State Attorney General were trying to shut that one down.) >>> Have you considered lobbying the CAB to inform the immigrants that these are illegal/illegit programs? I did some of that, back when I attended CAB meetings, on behalf of the school I was representing. The Am.Global " grads " were putting a lot of pressure on the CAB to OK them. Confronting the Chinese AOM establishment here in California is not to be done lightly. They are really the backbone of the strength of TCM/AOM here, and by and large truly desire higher standards. I trust that the authorities will hold the line on genuine credentials. Although there is a definite streak of anti-intellectualism in American society (witness the current administration's attitude towards science), the academic establishment here is more generally valued as a major national treasure. The younger generations of Asians (the " ABCs " or American Born Chinese) understand more Western values in higher education. The flood of immigrants has been somewhat stemmed (as a byproduct of 9/11), and those were largely the clients of the easy doctorates. Having said all that, my view is that there are two directions among the legit doctorates. First, those conforming to the ACAOM model, which are clinical doctorates, more like MD or DC, for those interested in a higher level of rigorous clinical background. From my (limited) knowledge, my guess is the PhDs in China, offered in partnership with some California TCM schools are along these lines too. Second, a few like AUCM's program led by Jeffery Yuen, are overtly more academic, which means a different sort of rigor. (All the real PhDs/clinical-doctorates require some aptitude, and a lot of serious work.) In fact, though, the AUCM program allows flexibility as to what one actually makes of it; i.e. one could, effectively, do it as a more clinical program, or research oriented, or as historical study, or in the area of theory. (BTW, although Kiiko does lead workshops sponsored by AUCM, I haven't noticed that they are part of the PhD program.) According to Jeffery and Kathryn White (chief honcho at AUCM), the New England School of Acupuncture (NESA), is also trying to develop this kind of degree program, though it's not finalized or offered yet. And there may be others in this direction. The issue seems to be getting TCM oriented faculty onboard to allow it. BTW, Jeffery noted in an aside during last weekend's workshops at AUCM, that at the Swedish Institute (NYC), where he's a dean as well as principle teacher in the L.Ac program, he doesn't teach diagnosis, lest the students end up arguing with the more TCM oriented teachers. From the viewpoint of entry-level TCM training, his material is definitely post-graduate in nature. Although not in California, one should remember that Cambridge Univ (UK) has given us a few notable high-level academic PhDs closely related to our field. Cases in point: Kim Taylor, Volker Scheid and Elizabeth Hsu (and maybe others in more recent years). These all earned doctorates ca. 1998-2000 which resulted in published books that have added significant depth to our understanding of CM. So I think it's looking pretty good for our field that we have now a growing range of opportunities to pursue serious post-graduate degrees, none of which were there 5 years ago (or, say 10 years ago, in the case of the Cambridge program). -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/716 - Release 3/9/2007 6:53 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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