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please see my TCVM professors answer to this.

 

Sincerely,

Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

shen xie <huishengxie

Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic

KD excess ?

Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:09:20 -0800 (PST)

 

Everything is relative.

 

Here is what I agree: If there is no yin, there must be no yang. No

Deficiency, no excess.

 

However, some are relatively Yang while some are more Yin. Sun is Yang

while Water is Yin. The younger, the more excess. The older, the more

deficiency. There must be a little yang inside the YIN while there must be a

little yin inside the YANG.

 

The Liver is more Excess while the Kidney is more Deficiency. In other

words, in some rare cases (for example, actue onset of kidney infection)

there can be a Kidney Excess. However, we often call this condition as

Bladder Excess (Damp-Heat). One of the reasons is that the Kidney stores

Jing, which should be preserved and should never be damaged.

 

To make it easily learn and practice the Chinese herbal medicine, TCM

dogmas often state " the Liver Qi/Yang be almost never deficient, and Kidney

are almost never excess " . This may be the reason that you may never be able

to find a herbal to clear Kidney excess.

 

 

Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic wrote:

 

Hi Dr. Xie:

We are having a on line conversation about Kidney Excess.Could you look at

this doctors response to these western diagnoses and comment on the

definition of TCM Kidney excess? I am sending a copy as well to Dr.

Fergueson although he is probably in transit with moving.

Xie Xie

 

 

Sincerely,

Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

" dr_namnguyen58 "

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine

Re: SP yin def. / KD excess

Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:03:40 -0000

 

Kidney can not be excess????? HOwever, we may look it at a funny angle.

in 5 elements : If the Earth, ( SP ? STO ) deficiency, it does not

control the Water ( KI/UB ) then The water ( Kidneys ) becomes excess.

The Kidneys outgrow and expands without control, is this not a kidneys

excess condition???

If SP / STO not transform or transports its glucose and water, the

glucose gets into the bloodstream and flows into the kidney causing

diabetes, also water profusely pours into the UB and then into

Kidneys. Do the kidney get excess here?

WHat about the diabetes insipidus? The ADH is deficiency, not

controlling the Kidney, water in the UB got excess or not

controllable. Kidneys must overwork and empty the bladder. Is this not

an excess ?

 

How about the high blood pressrure, causing from excess adrenalin

secretion? adrenalin in the kidneys stored or its production. It must

be in excess to produce them????

 

Besides, if there is no excess there will be no deficiency? Kidneys is

not exception, as I look at this way.

 

Liv Yang ( LIv fire )excess comes from Liv YIn def. Liv YIn def comes

from Kid Yin def, Kidney Yin def comes from Kid Yang excess ( This is

not a true excess, but of its relative, this Kid Yang " Fire " will

disturb Liv Yang and cause Liv Yang uprising )............ Is this

also Kid excess???

 

We can see there are people who can have sex many times a day . Is

this a kidney excess condition???? If it is a def how can he

accomodate this, and where is this desire coming from ????

HOw about prostate? If someone has big prostate ( doe the prostate "

its holding the sperms " belong to the kidney? ) or If someone does

have a big kidney ( unusual circumstance )?

 

Depend on how we look at and how we interpret them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Good luck!!!

 

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