Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 please see my TCVM professors answer to this. Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology shen xie <huishengxie Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic KD excess ? Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:09:20 -0800 (PST) Everything is relative. Here is what I agree: If there is no yin, there must be no yang. No Deficiency, no excess. However, some are relatively Yang while some are more Yin. Sun is Yang while Water is Yin. The younger, the more excess. The older, the more deficiency. There must be a little yang inside the YIN while there must be a little yin inside the YANG. The Liver is more Excess while the Kidney is more Deficiency. In other words, in some rare cases (for example, actue onset of kidney infection) there can be a Kidney Excess. However, we often call this condition as Bladder Excess (Damp-Heat). One of the reasons is that the Kidney stores Jing, which should be preserved and should never be damaged. To make it easily learn and practice the Chinese herbal medicine, TCM dogmas often state " the Liver Qi/Yang be almost never deficient, and Kidney are almost never excess " . This may be the reason that you may never be able to find a herbal to clear Kidney excess. Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic wrote: Hi Dr. Xie: We are having a on line conversation about Kidney Excess.Could you look at this doctors response to these western diagnoses and comment on the definition of TCM Kidney excess? I am sending a copy as well to Dr. Fergueson although he is probably in transit with moving. Xie Xie Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology " dr_namnguyen58 " Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine Re: SP yin def. / KD excess Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:03:40 -0000 Kidney can not be excess????? HOwever, we may look it at a funny angle. in 5 elements : If the Earth, ( SP ? STO ) deficiency, it does not control the Water ( KI/UB ) then The water ( Kidneys ) becomes excess. The Kidneys outgrow and expands without control, is this not a kidneys excess condition??? If SP / STO not transform or transports its glucose and water, the glucose gets into the bloodstream and flows into the kidney causing diabetes, also water profusely pours into the UB and then into Kidneys. Do the kidney get excess here? WHat about the diabetes insipidus? The ADH is deficiency, not controlling the Kidney, water in the UB got excess or not controllable. Kidneys must overwork and empty the bladder. Is this not an excess ? How about the high blood pressrure, causing from excess adrenalin secretion? adrenalin in the kidneys stored or its production. It must be in excess to produce them???? Besides, if there is no excess there will be no deficiency? Kidneys is not exception, as I look at this way. Liv Yang ( LIv fire )excess comes from Liv YIn def. Liv YIn def comes from Kid Yin def, Kidney Yin def comes from Kid Yang excess ( This is not a true excess, but of its relative, this Kid Yang " Fire " will disturb Liv Yang and cause Liv Yang uprising )............ Is this also Kid excess??? We can see there are people who can have sex many times a day . Is this a kidney excess condition???? If it is a def how can he accomodate this, and where is this desire coming from ???? HOw about prostate? If someone has big prostate ( doe the prostate " its holding the sperms " belong to the kidney? ) or If someone does have a big kidney ( unusual circumstance )? Depend on how we look at and how we interpret them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck!!! _______________ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. & #63728; http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline Shen Huisheng Xie, DVM PhD The President of Chi Institute & Jing-tang Co. 9700 West Hwy 318 Reddick, FL 32686 www.tcvm.com 1-800-891-1986 Fax: 1-352-591-2854 _______________ Win a Zune™—make MSN® your homepage for your chance to win! http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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