Breaking News: Acup on Oprah 02/13/07

[Guest guest]

even with " eventually " as a modifier, the " her pain *would* be gone " statement

sounds like a legal liability to me. anyone else thing so?

 

Lynn

 

 

" anne.crowley " <anne.crowley

Chinese Medicine

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:39:12 PM

Re: Breaking News: Acupuncture on " Oprah " Tues. 02/13/07

 

Dr. Daniel did stumble a little when Oprah asked how long the treatment would

last. I liked his answer, something like 3 or 4 days and the important thing was

having back to back treatments. He also said eventually her pain would be gone.

I have heard other acupunturists say this but I cannot utter these words.

Everyone is different. How can you say it will be gone. We were just having this

discussion on here not long ago, that the patient has to be invested in the

healing. Also the patient might be invested, and things have gone on too long.

So it will take more time to go away.

 

Okay, it was still a positive outcome. Oprah said to the woman " Is you pain

really gone, don't just say yes if it isn't. " And she affirmed that is was gone.

Oprah also asked if she had the pain when she came in and she said yes

definitely and that now it was completely gone. Again, a nailbiter.

 

Dr. Oz explained acupuncture as setting off endorphins, but from the transcript

(I didn't see the whole show), it seems he left out the electrical effects. As

someone here said, it is good to have him presenting our profession in a

positive light.

 

Anne

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> On 2/14/07, anne.crowley@ comcast.net <anne.crowley@ comcast.net> wrote:

>

>

> He's good. Neck and back pain gone in one treatment. I was crossing my

> fingers.

>

> when i was watching it, some of the questions/answers seemed to be scripted

> or pre-coached. not sure what really happened, but was pleased they

> designed/edited the slot to present acu in a positive light.

>

> kb

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[Guest guest]

Lynn: There are all kinds of ways around this. I have heard aggressive

practice management groups say " Your pain will be gone, if.... " You take herbs

as directed, exercise, eat right blah blah. I just always tell people, it is

very dependent on the person. My experience is .... with back pain. I do tell

them that over 90% of my patients feel bette overall when they come to

acupuncture. That I have witnessed personally. The particular ailment, how old

some is, how long it has been there, their willingness for it to go away, are

all variables.

 

Anne

 

 

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" J. Lynn Detamore " <lynndetamore

> even with " eventually " as a modifier, the " her pain *would* be gone " statement

> sounds like a legal liability to me. anyone else thing so?

>

> Lynn

>

>

> " anne.crowley " <anne.crowley

> Chinese Medicine

> Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:39:12 PM

> Re: Breaking News: Acupuncture on " Oprah " Tues. 02/13/07

>

> Dr. Daniel did stumble a little when Oprah asked how long the treatment would

> last. I liked his answer, something like 3 or 4 days and the important thing

was

> having back to back treatments. He also said eventually her pain would be

gone.

> I have heard other acupunturists say this but I cannot utter these words.

> Everyone is different. How can you say it will be gone. We were just having

this

> discussion on here not long ago, that the patient has to be invested in the

> healing. Also the patient might be invested, and things have gone on too long.

> So it will take more time to go away.

>

> Okay, it was still a positive outcome. Oprah said to the woman " Is you pain

> really gone, don't just say yes if it isn't. " And she affirmed that is was

gone.

> Oprah also asked if she had the pain when she came in and she said yes

> definitely and that now it was completely gone. Again, a nailbiter.

>

> Dr. Oz explained acupuncture as setting off endorphins, but from the

transcript

> (I didn't see the whole show), it seems he left out the electrical effects. As

> someone here said, it is good to have him presenting our profession in a

> positive light.

>

> Anne

> ------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -

> " " <acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > On 2/14/07, anne.crowley@ comcast.net <anne.crowley@ comcast.net> wrote:

> >

> >

> > He's good. Neck and back pain gone in one treatment. I was crossing my

> > fingers.

> >

> > when i was watching it, some of the questions/answers seemed to be scripted

> > or pre-coached. not sure what really happened, but was pleased they

> > designed/edited the slot to present acu in a positive light.

> >

> > kb

> >

> >

> > --

> >

> > Oriental Medicine

> > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

> >

> > Asheville Center For

> > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

> > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

> > kbartlett@Acupunctu reAsheville. com

> > www.AcupunctureAshe ville.com

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I totally agree. There are just too many variables to state absolutely

that anything will happen, especially as regards anything as deeply

personal as pain.

Tymothy

 

Chinese Medicine , " J. Lynn

Detamore " <lynndetamore wrote:

>

> even with " eventually " as a modifier, the " her pain *would* be gone "

statement sounds like a legal liability to me. anyone else thing so?

>

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Can you imagine the pressure to be on national TV and wait for the candid answer

of how is the shoulder now.....We have all had those cases where it hurts worse

or no change after all the hard work.....I thought he did a great job on all of

it. I've done a live spot and a few taped ones and its always kinda exciting but

scary. Ya know he knew that half the APs in the country were watching his every

word....hero or the goat, today he is the hero. We have two new patients from

the show now.

 

Bob

www.acuherbals.com

 

miracles28 <jellyphish wrote:

I totally agree. There are just too many variables to state absolutely

that anything will happen, especially as regards anything as deeply

personal as pain.

Tymothy

 

Chinese Medicine , " J. Lynn

Detamore " <lynndetamore wrote:

>

> even with " eventually " as a modifier, the " her pain *would* be gone "

statement sounds like a legal liability to me. anyone else thing so?

>

> Lynn

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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