Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Kath said>>I'm getting desperate enough to try this. i have a young, hybrid dog > who's bedwetting (also eliminates in the bathroom if the door's left > open). he's responding to herbal therapy, but then the routine gets > upset and we go back to square one: frustrating. << usually in young dogs(is it the same in people?) we call it - Kidney Qi Not Rooted, TB- pale, P-deep & weak, a bit emaciated... Rx prin - tonify Qi reinforce KID regulate BL Pts: BL-23/28, GV-20/4 CV-06/-4/03 some will add SP-06, ST-36, HT-07. Sagiv. Dr. Sagiv Ben-Yakir BSC DVM(in honor) MRCVS CVA(IVAS) benyakir - Chinese Medicine Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:16 AM Dog urinating in house Hi Kath, John & All, wrote: > the urine of stink beetles to stop children from bedwetting. You put a > stink beetle in a spoon with water and wait until it urinates into the > spoon. Kath Bartlett wrote: > I'm getting desperate enough to try this. i have a young, hybrid dog > who's bedwetting (also eliminates in the bathroom if the door's left > open). he's responding to herbal therapy, but then the routine gets > upset and we go back to square one: frustrating. I would add acupuncture 2 times/week for 3-5 sessions at GV20, lumbosacral space, SP06, BL28, BL23 and SJ05 through to PC06. Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Thanks, Phil: If I can find an animal acupuncurist close enough, I will go in armed with your point prescription. They are usually Vets with limited acupuncture training (in the area where I live.) Now Columbia MD is a different story. Graduates from acupuncture school with additional aminal acupuncture training. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " " < > Hi Kath, John & All, > > wrote: > > the urine of stink beetles to stop children from bedwetting. You put a > > stink beetle in a spoon with water and wait until it urinates into the > > spoon. > > Kath Bartlett wrote: > > I'm getting desperate enough to try this. i have a young, hybrid dog > > who's bedwetting (also eliminates in the bathroom if the door's left > > open). he's responding to herbal therapy, but then the routine gets > > upset and we go back to square one: frustrating. > > I would add acupuncture 2 times/week for 3-5 sessions at GV20, > lumbosacral space, SP06, BL28, BL23 and SJ05 through to PC06. > > Best regards, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 On 2/15/07, Ben-Yakir <benyakir wrote: usually in young dogs(is it the same in people?) we call it - Kidney Qi Not Rooted, TB- pale, P-deep & weak, a bit emaciated... Rx prin - tonify Qi reinforce KID regulate BL Pts: BL-23/28, GV-20/4 CV-06/-4/03 some will add SP-06, ST-36, HT-07. Sagiv. he's more liv qi stag/kid/ht yin xu (barking, alpha, anxiety: tail chasing, submissive urinator which has imp., wiry P and body type, ENERGETIC, happy). been using chai hu jia long gu mu li tang, jian wei: astringents/calm shen. i was thinking about the kid issue not controlling the lower gates this weekend, so added shan zhu yu, fu pen zi & kid yin tonics. the bed was dry this am!! haven't approached him about acu yet. he's watched me do it on myself. he's so hyper and can be skiddish, not sure how cooperative he'ld be to acu. now my previous dog, daisey, a sweet, docile cocker loved acu. got it almost daily in her later years with good results. in fact. she passed with needles in shi shen cong: that's an acupuncturist's dog! however, it may be time to up the anti and try introducing acu to the new pup, dakota. who knows, maybe he'll surprise me and go for it. thx for the suggestions, kath -- Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Ben: wondering if you could answer a couple question regarding acu on dogs: 1. my dog dakota is a daschound/australian shep mix (i think this makes him and aussie-daschy), and as such has the characteristicly long back. do dasch. have an extra vert or larger vert to get the long back? 2. dog's have an addition vert, compared to humans. is the extra a cervical, thorasic or lumber. if thorasic/lumb, how does that shift the placement of the shu pt coorespondences to the numbered vert? thx, kath > > > -- Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hi, >>do dasch. have an extra vert or larger vert to get the long back?<< no, but the meaning of it that they are prone to cervical diseases=no jumping, no frisbie, as the dog get older(above 7yrs) make small steps for him, think - the size of your leg compare to his and all the pressure on its back as he trying to go on these " humane steps " / C-7,T-13(last one free), L-7, S-3(fused)+tail(might be 17 coccygeals). Back shu - same Dr. Sagiv Ben-Yakir BSC DVM(in honor) MRCVS CVA(IVAS) benyakir - Chinese Medicine Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:43 PM Re: Dog urinating in house Ben: wondering if you could answer a couple question regarding acu on dogs: 1. my dog dakota is a daschound/australian shep mix (i think this makes him and aussie-daschy), and as such has the characteristicly long back. do dasch. have an extra vert or larger vert to get the long back? 2. dog's have an addition vert, compared to humans. is the extra a cervical, thorasic or lumber. if thorasic/lumb, how does that shift the placement of the shu pt coorespondences to the numbered vert? thx, kath > > > -- Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hmmm... I thought all mammals had the same number of vertebrae. Is this incorrect? Andre Beth Damsky, L.Ac. " " wrote: Ben: wondering if you could answer a couple question regarding acu on dogs: 1. my dog dakota is a daschound/australian shep mix (i think this makes him and aussie-daschy), and as such has the characteristicly long back. do dasch. have an extra vert or larger vert to get the long back? 2. dog's have an addition vert, compared to humans. is the extra a cervical, thorasic or lumber. if thorasic/lumb, how does that shift the placement of the shu pt coorespondences to the numbered vert? thx, kath > > > -- Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 no. e.g horse has T-18, L-6, S-5 and dog has T-13, L-7, S-3 etc and if you think it is easy to be a vet, forget about it, the amount of data we carry in our cranium is ...too much? :-) Dr. Sagiv Ben-Yakir BSC DVM(in honor) MRCVS CVA(IVAS) benyakir - Chinese Medicine Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:02 PM Re: Dog urinating in house Hmmm... I thought all mammals had the same number of vertebrae. Is this incorrect? Andre Beth Damsky, L.Ac. " " wrote: Ben: wondering if you could answer a couple question regarding acu on dogs: 1. my dog dakota is a daschound/australian shep mix (i think this makes him and aussie-daschy), and as such has the characteristicly long back. do dasch. have an extra vert or larger vert to get the long back? 2. dog's have an addition vert, compared to humans. is the extra a cervical, thorasic or lumber. if thorasic/lumb, how does that shift the placement of the shu pt coorespondences to the numbered vert? thx, kath > > > -- Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Wow! I got a good laugh out of that! Are the bones in the tail also considered vertebrae? Andrea Beth Ben-Yakir <benyakir wrote: no. e.g horse has T-18, L-6, S-5 and dog has T-13, L-7, S-3 etc and if you think it is easy to be a vet, forget about it, the amount of data we carry in our cranium is ...too much? :-) Dr. Sagiv Ben-Yakir BSC DVM(in honor) MRCVS CVA(IVAS) benyakir - Chinese Medicine Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:02 PM Re: Dog urinating in house Hmmm... I thought all mammals had the same number of vertebrae. Is this incorrect? Andre Beth Damsky, L.Ac. " " wrote: Ben: wondering if you could answer a couple question regarding acu on dogs: 1. my dog dakota is a daschound/australian shep mix (i think this makes him and aussie-daschy), and as such has the characteristicly long back. do dasch. have an extra vert or larger vert to get the long back? 2. dog's have an addition vert, compared to humans. is the extra a cervical, thorasic or lumber. if thorasic/lumb, how does that shift the placement of the shu pt coorespondences to the numbered vert? thx, kath > > > -- Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 They sure are, Andrea. Just google a cat skeleton, or some other tailed mammal skeleton. Lynn < Chinese Medicine Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:58:16 PM Re: Dog urinating in house Wow! I got a good laugh out of that! Are the bones in the tail also considered vertebrae? Andrea Beth Ben-Yakir <benyakir (AT) netvision (DOT) net.il> wrote: no. e.g horse has T-18, L-6, S-5 and dog has T-13, L-7, S-3 etc and if you think it is easy to be a vet, forget about it, the amount of data we carry in our cranium is ...too much? :-) Dr. Sagiv Ben-Yakir BSC DVM(in honor) MRCVS CVA(IVAS) benyakir (AT) netvision (DOT) net.il - Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:02 PM Re: Dog urinating in house Hmmm... I thought all mammals had the same number of vertebrae. Is this incorrect? Andre Beth Damsky, L.Ac. " " <acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Ben: wondering if you could answer a couple question regarding acu on dogs: 1. my dog dakota is a daschound/australia n shep mix (i think this makes him and aussie-daschy) , and as such has the characteristicly long back. do dasch. have an extra vert or larger vert to get the long back? 2. dog's have an addition vert, compared to humans. is the extra a cervical, thorasic or lumber. if thorasic/lumb, how does that shift the placement of the shu pt coorespondences to the numbered vert? thx, kath > > > -- Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett@Acupunctu reAsheville. com www.AcupunctureAshe ville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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