Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Dear friends, I want to ask you a question that has been in my mind even previous to when I began studying Chinese medicine, a question that I have never been given a satisfactory answer to: To the best of my understanding, reflexology is based upon the principal that (just like with auricular acupuncture) every organ and structure of the body is reflected in the feet, and in theory, if a point is sore on a foot, it means that there is some kind of pathology on the relevant part of the body. And inversely as well, if a certain structure of the body is dysfunctional, sick or painful, by massaging the appropriate place on the feet, which will supposedly be sore, the organ can be healed. It would seem to me a logical syllogism, to apply the reflexology map to needling the feet. Yet when I have made that suggestion, it has been met with, " reflexology is its own system, and acupuncture is its own system and they're just not mixed. " I find that answer to be a cop out, and to paraphrase Bobby Kennedy, I would like to know " ....why not? " It might be suggested perhaps, that it already is being applied, and that reflexology is similar to the system of foot and hand acupuncture mentioned in Acupuncture, a Comprehensive Text. But clearly the points and indications are completely different. Sincerely, Yehuda http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Hello! Sujok therapy or hand and foot acupuncture has detailed map of organs/body parts. Check Sujok Therapy Group at . Also, _www.sujok.ru.com_ (http://www.sujok.ru.com) go to magazine, download mag #1. It's free. This gives an awesome intro. Hope this helps. Take care. amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Hi Amy, I am familiar with Korean sujok acupuncture, and those it is an excellent system, it still is quite different from reflexology. So my question remains.... Amyc144 wrote: Hello! Sujok therapy or hand and foot acupuncture has detailed map of organs/body parts. Check Sujok Therapy Group at . Also, _www.sujok.ru.com_ (http://www.sujok.ru.com) go to magazine, download mag #1. It's free. This gives an awesome intro. Hope this helps. Take care. amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 My opinion is that foot reflexology is just based on dubious information on the connection of nerves in the feet with the rest of the body. Korean and other Asian systems already have access to maps developed by traditional channel theory approaches. However, I am even speculative about the accuracy of systems of Korean hand acupuncture as well. On Feb 2, 2007, at 3:44 PM, yehuda frischman wrote: > Hi Amy, > > I am familiar with Korean sujok acupuncture, and those it is an > excellent system, it still is quite different from reflexology. So > my question remains.... > > Amyc144 wrote: > Hello! > Sujok therapy or hand and foot acupuncture has detailed map of > organs/body > parts. > Check Sujok Therapy Group at . > Also, _www.sujok.ru.com_ (http://www.sujok.ru.com) go to magazine, > download mag #1. It's free. This gives an awesome intro. > Hope this helps. > Take care. > amy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 inquiring minds want to know. . . yehuda: why not conduct a small scale pilot study at your clinic. find some interested patients and needle the foot according to the reflexology sys and record/observe findings? just a thought. . . kb On 2/2/07, wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I want to ask you a question that has been in my mind even previous to > when I began studying Chinese medicine, a question that I have never been > given a satisfactory answer to: To the best of my understanding, reflexology > is based upon the principal that (just like with auricular acupuncture) > every organ and structure of the body is reflected in the feet, and in > theory, if a point is sore on a foot, it means that there is some kind of > pathology on the relevant part of the body. And inversely as well, if a > certain structure of the body is dysfunctional, sick or painful, by > massaging the appropriate place on the feet, which will supposedly be sore, > the organ can be healed. It would seem to me a logical syllogism, to apply > the reflexology map to needling the feet. Yet when I have made that > suggestion, it has been met with, " reflexology is its own system, and > acupuncture is its own system and they're just not mixed. " I find that > answer to be a cop out, and to > paraphrase Bobby Kennedy, I would like to know " ....why not? " It might be > suggested perhaps, that it already is being applied, and that reflexology is > similar to the system of foot and hand acupuncture mentioned in Acupuncture, > a Comprehensive Text. But clearly the points and indications are completely > different. > > > Sincerely, > > Yehuda > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Yehuda: This was in my draft folder. These were my thoughts when you made this inquiry. I don't know the answer and would like to hear from those who might. Let me say this about that. I do not like needles in the bottom of my foot (still have heel pain as a result - currently working on it with a laser, among other things). I cannot imagine needling the bottom of the foot as a regular means of treatment. I realize some points are on the top of the foot (okay, well they are great acupuncture points, I'll take those). Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- > Dear friends, > > I want to ask you a question that has been in my mind even previous to when I > began studying Chinese medicine, a question that I have never been given a > satisfactory answer to: To the best of my understanding, reflexology is based > upon the principal that (just like with auricular acupuncture) every organ and > structure of the body is reflected in the feet, and in theory, if a point is > sore on a foot, it means that there is some kind of pathology on the relevant > part of the body. And inversely as well, if a certain structure of the body is > dysfunctional, sick or painful, by massaging the appropriate place on the feet, > which will supposedly be sore, the organ can be healed. It would seem to me a > logical syllogism, to apply the reflexology map to needling the feet. Yet when > I have made that suggestion, it has been met with, " reflexology is its own > system, and acupuncture is its own system and they're just not mixed. " I find > that answer to be a cop out, and to > paraphrase Bobby Kennedy, I would like to know " ....why not? " It might be > suggested perhaps, that it already is being applied, and that reflexology is > similar to the system of foot and hand acupuncture mentioned in Acupuncture, a > Comprehensive Text. But clearly the points and indications are completely > different. > > > Sincerely, > > Yehuda > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Dear Jehuda, While I was attending in Acupuncture school 15 years ago, I was obssessed in Reflexology. It worked, but it had its limitation. I thought Reflexology was fascinating and I applied theory and its theory for all kinds of illnesses it claimed to be effective. After a while of applying the therapy, 98% of patients would experience no change, either Hands or Foot Reflexology would give nothing change. I gave up and gave no recommendation to my patients about Reflexology. If we are good in Acupuncture and Herbology, we will gain and learn a lot from this experience and experiments " in clinic " . What I have seen that we all ( Acupuncturists ) learned and practiced but shared nothing in value, probably just a boastful success and self advertising. Acupuncture and herbs are also having their limitations we must accept them as true. However, there are also limitations because of our lack of exposures, experiences, knowledge and researchs or just blindly based on some fantomed " fabricated " experience, books and reports. Just watch out!!!!!!!!!! Get deeper in theory, analysis then apply. It will give us an amazing result. I hope some days, we ( acupuncurists ) all get together in classrooms, conferences, or online in order to share our own true experiences either in failure on in success, not from our own ego confusing others . Sinerely, Nam Nguyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Hi Anne, I agree with you that practically the bottom of the foot is very tender. A thought that I had was to use ear tacks there, instead of regular needles. Whatcha think? Yehuda anne.crowley wrote: Yehuda: This was in my draft folder. These were my thoughts when you made this inquiry. I don't know the answer and would like to hear from those who might. Let me say this about that. I do not like needles in the bottom of my foot (still have heel pain as a result - currently working on it with a laser, among other things). I cannot imagine needling the bottom of the foot as a regular means of treatment. I realize some points are on the top of the foot (okay, well they are great acupuncture points, I'll take those). Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- > Dear friends, > > I want to ask you a question that has been in my mind even previous to when I > began studying Chinese medicine, a question that I have never been given a > satisfactory answer to: To the best of my understanding, reflexology is based > upon the principal that (just like with auricular acupuncture) every organ and > structure of the body is reflected in the feet, and in theory, if a point is > sore on a foot, it means that there is some kind of pathology on the relevant > part of the body. And inversely as well, if a certain structure of the body is > dysfunctional, sick or painful, by massaging the appropriate place on the feet, > which will supposedly be sore, the organ can be healed. It would seem to me a > logical syllogism, to apply the reflexology map to needling the feet. Yet when > I have made that suggestion, it has been met with, " reflexology is its own > system, and acupuncture is its own system and they're just not mixed. " I find > that answer to be a cop out, and to > paraphrase Bobby Kennedy, I would like to know " ....why not? " It might be > suggested perhaps, that it already is being applied, and that reflexology is > similar to the system of foot and hand acupuncture mentioned in Acupuncture, a > Comprehensive Text. But clearly the points and indications are completely > different. > > > Sincerely, > > Yehuda > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 I'd rather walk on cactus than have that done!! One thing about classical acupuncture. . . the majority of the traditional channel points can be needled with very thin needles, and the qi response is not a harsh, 'nervy' one. On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:06 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > Hi Anne, > > I agree with you that practically the bottom of the foot is very > tender. A thought that I had was to use ear tacks there, instead of > regular needles. Whatcha think? > > Yehuda > > anne.crowley wrote: > Yehuda: > > This was in my draft folder. These were my thoughts when you made > this inquiry. > > I don't know the answer and would like to hear from those who > might. Let me say > this about that. I do not like needles in the bottom of my foot > (still have > heel pain as a result - currently working on it with a laser, among > other > things). I cannot imagine needling the bottom of the foot as a > regular means > of treatment. I realize some points are on the top of the foot > (okay, well they > are great acupuncture points, I'll take those). > > Anne > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > Dear friends, > > > > I want to ask you a question that has been in my mind even > previous to when > I > > began studying Chinese medicine, a question that I have never > been given a > > satisfactory answer to: To the best of my understanding, > reflexology is based > > upon the principal that (just like with auricular acupuncture) > every organ and > > structure of the body is reflected in the feet, and in theory, if > a point is > > sore on a foot, it means that there is some kind of pathology on > the relevant > > part of the body. And inversely as well, if a certain structure > of the body > is > > dysfunctional, sick or painful, by massaging the appropriate > place on the > feet, > > which will supposedly be sore, the organ can be healed. It would > seem to me > a > > logical syllogism, to apply the reflexology map to needling the > feet. Yet > when > > I have made that suggestion, it has been met with, " reflexology > is its own > > system, and acupuncture is its own system and they're just not > mixed. " I find > > that answer to be a cop out, and to > > paraphrase Bobby Kennedy, I would like to know " ....why not? " It > might be > > suggested perhaps, that it already is being applied, and that > reflexology is > > similar to the system of foot and hand acupuncture mentioned in > Acupuncture, a > > Comprehensive Text. But clearly the points and indications are > completely > > different. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > > > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Zev You live near the desert and should be able to find a cactus. What about using small direct moxa to stimulate the point? Mike W. Bowser, L Ac ________________________________ > Chinese Medicine > zrosenbe > Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:55:43 -0800 > Re: reflexology and acupuncture > > I'd rather walk on cactus than have that done!! > One thing about classical acupuncture. . . the majority of the > traditional channel points can be needled with very thin needles, and > the qi response is not a harsh, 'nervy' one. > > On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:06 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > > Hi Anne, > > > > I agree with you that practically the bottom of the foot is very > > tender. A thought that I had was to use ear tacks there, instead of > > regular needles. Whatcha think? > > > > Yehuda > > > > anne.crowley wrote: > > Yehuda: > > > > This was in my draft folder. These were my thoughts when you made > > this inquiry. > > > > I don't know the answer and would like to hear from those who > > might. Let me say > > this about that. I do not like needles in the bottom of my foot > > (still have > > heel pain as a result - currently working on it with a laser, among > > other > > things). I cannot imagine needling the bottom of the foot as a > > regular means > > of treatment. I realize some points are on the top of the foot > > (okay, well they > > are great acupuncture points, I'll take those). > > > > Anne > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > I want to ask you a question that has been in my mind even > > previous to when > > I > > > began studying Chinese medicine, a question that I have never > > been given a > > > satisfactory answer to: To the best of my understanding, > > reflexology is based > > > upon the principal that (just like with auricular acupuncture) > > every organ and > > > structure of the body is reflected in the feet, and in theory, if > > a point is > > > sore on a foot, it means that there is some kind of pathology on > > the relevant > > > part of the body. And inversely as well, if a certain structure > > of the body > > is > > > dysfunctional, sick or painful, by massaging the appropriate > > place on the > > feet, > > > which will supposedly be sore, the organ can be healed. It would > > seem to me > > a > > > logical syllogism, to apply the reflexology map to needling the > > feet. Yet > > when > > > I have made that suggestion, it has been met with, " reflexology > > is its own > > > system, and acupuncture is its own system and they're just not > > mixed. " I find > > > that answer to be a cop out, and to > > > paraphrase Bobby Kennedy, I would like to know " ....why not? " It > > might be > > > suggested perhaps, that it already is being applied, and that > > reflexology is > > > similar to the system of foot and hand acupuncture mentioned in > > Acupuncture, a > > > Comprehensive Text. But clearly the points and indications are > > completely > > > different. > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 A much better method, using moxa. However, in my opinion, reflexology is based on relatively direct nerve stimulation, whereas classical acupuncture methods largely are not. Also, the foot maps are not reliable. On Feb 5, 2007, at 1:55 PM, mike Bowser wrote: > > Zev > > You live near the desert and should be able to find a cactus. > What about using small direct moxa to stimulate the point? > > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > ________________________________ > > Chinese Medicine > > zrosenbe > > Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:55:43 -0800 > > Re: reflexology and acupuncture > > > > I'd rather walk on cactus than have that done!! > > One thing about classical acupuncture. . . the majority of the > > traditional channel points can be needled with very thin needles, > and > > the qi response is not a harsh, 'nervy' one. > > > > On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:06 AM, yehuda frischman wrote: > > > Hi Anne, > > > > > > I agree with you that practically the bottom of the foot is very > > > tender. A thought that I had was to use ear tacks there, > instead of > > > regular needles. Whatcha think? > > > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > anne.crowley wrote: > > > Yehuda: > > > > > > This was in my draft folder. These were my thoughts when you made > > > this inquiry. > > > > > > I don't know the answer and would like to hear from those who > > > might. Let me say > > > this about that. I do not like needles in the bottom of my foot > > > (still have > > > heel pain as a result - currently working on it with a laser, > among > > > other > > > things). I cannot imagine needling the bottom of the foot as a > > > regular means > > > of treatment. I realize some points are on the top of the foot > > > (okay, well they > > > are great acupuncture points, I'll take those). > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > I want to ask you a question that has been in my mind even > > > previous to when > > > I > > > > began studying Chinese medicine, a question that I have never > > > been given a > > > > satisfactory answer to: To the best of my understanding, > > > reflexology is based > > > > upon the principal that (just like with auricular acupuncture) > > > every organ and > > > > structure of the body is reflected in the feet, and in > theory, if > > > a point is > > > > sore on a foot, it means that there is some kind of pathology on > > > the relevant > > > > part of the body. And inversely as well, if a certain structure > > > of the body > > > is > > > > dysfunctional, sick or painful, by massaging the appropriate > > > place on the > > > feet, > > > > which will supposedly be sore, the organ can be healed. It would > > > seem to me > > > a > > > > logical syllogism, to apply the reflexology map to needling the > > > feet. Yet > > > when > > > > I have made that suggestion, it has been met with, " reflexology > > > is its own > > > > system, and acupuncture is its own system and they're just not > > > mixed. " I find > > > > that answer to be a cop out, and to > > > > paraphrase Bobby Kennedy, I would like to know " ....why not? " It > > > might be > > > > suggested perhaps, that it already is being applied, and that > > > reflexology is > > > > similar to the system of foot and hand acupuncture mentioned in > > > Acupuncture, a > > > > Comprehensive Text. But clearly the points and indications are > > > completely > > > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call > rates. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 try seeds or pellets. kb On 2/5/07, wrote: > > Hi Anne, > > I agree with you that practically the bottom of the foot is very tender. A > thought that I had was to use ear tacks there, instead of regular needles. > Whatcha think? > > Yehuda > > anne.crowley <anne.crowley%40comcast.net> wrote: > Yehuda: > > This was in my draft folder. These were my thoughts when you made this > inquiry. > > I don't know the answer and would like to hear from those who might. Let > me say > this about that. I do not like needles in the bottom of my foot (still > have > heel pain as a result - currently working on it with a laser, among other > things). I cannot imagine needling the bottom of the foot as a regular > means > of treatment. I realize some points are on the top of the foot (okay, well > they > are great acupuncture points, I'll take those). > > Anne > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > <%40>> > > Dear friends, > > > > I want to ask you a question that has been in my mind even previous to > when > I > > began studying Chinese medicine, a question that I have never been given > a > > satisfactory answer to: To the best of my understanding, reflexology is > based > > upon the principal that (just like with auricular acupuncture) every > organ and > > structure of the body is reflected in the feet, and in theory, if a > point is > > sore on a foot, it means that there is some kind of pathology on the > relevant > > part of the body. And inversely as well, if a certain structure of the > body > is > > dysfunctional, sick or painful, by massaging the appropriate place on > the > feet, > > which will supposedly be sore, the organ can be healed. It would seem to > me > a > > logical syllogism, to apply the reflexology map to needling the feet. > Yet > when > > I have made that suggestion, it has been met with, " reflexology is its > own > > system, and acupuncture is its own system and they're just not mixed. " I > find > > that answer to be a cop out, and to > > paraphrase Bobby Kennedy, I would like to know " ....why not? " It might > be > > suggested perhaps, that it already is being applied, and that > reflexology is > > similar to the system of foot and hand acupuncture mentioned in > Acupuncture, a > > Comprehensive Text. But clearly the points and indications are > completely > > different. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > > > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Ouch! I am being a big baby about this and my feet have been hurting since the fall. I will try the seeds or pellets with the laser and the chiro (whatever he's doing.) What I really need is to get my f--- a--- (to quote a recent celebrity) in the gym and take care of the muscle atrophy. However now I am now limited to certain exercises. Also sitting on a rolling stool would help. (Need to get one that won't damage my wood floors) I have recently obtained some orthodics from the chiro. Thanks for all your inputs. Every bit helps. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- > Hi Anne, > > I agree with you that practically the bottom of the foot is very tender. A > thought that I had was to use ear tacks there, instead of regular needles. > Whatcha think? > > Yehuda > > anne.crowley wrote: > Yehuda: > > This was in my draft folder. These were my thoughts when you made this inquiry. > > I don't know the answer and would like to hear from those who might. Let me say > this about that. I do not like needles in the bottom of my foot (still have > heel pain as a result - currently working on it with a laser, among other > things). I cannot imagine needling the bottom of the foot as a regular means > of treatment. I realize some points are on the top of the foot (okay, well they > are great acupuncture points, I'll take those). > > Anne > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > Dear friends, > > > > I want to ask you a question that has been in my mind even previous to when > I > > began studying Chinese medicine, a question that I have never been given a > > satisfactory answer to: To the best of my understanding, reflexology is based > > upon the principal that (just like with auricular acupuncture) every organ and > > structure of the body is reflected in the feet, and in theory, if a point is > > sore on a foot, it means that there is some kind of pathology on the relevant > > part of the body. And inversely as well, if a certain structure of the body > is > > dysfunctional, sick or painful, by massaging the appropriate place on the > feet, > > which will supposedly be sore, the organ can be healed. It would seem to me > a > > logical syllogism, to apply the reflexology map to needling the feet. Yet > when > > I have made that suggestion, it has been met with, " reflexology is its own > > system, and acupuncture is its own system and they're just not mixed. " I find > > that answer to be a cop out, and to > > paraphrase Bobby Kennedy, I would like to know " ....why not? " It might be > > suggested perhaps, that it already is being applied, and that reflexology is > > similar to the system of foot and hand acupuncture mentioned in Acupuncture, a > > Comprehensive Text. But clearly the points and indications are completely > > different. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > http://traditionaljewishmedicine.com/ > > > > > > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 On Monday 05 February 2007 11:12 pm, anne.crowley wrote: Hi Anne! I have needled into the sole of the patient's feet with good result. However, I learned a very rapid insertion technique in school that everyone may not know. That said, you could try a little self massage of your feet. Kind of try to " pop " the knuckle joints of your toes. I can't say that is tui na, but it does seem to release a lot of stagnation. > Ouch! > > I am being a big baby about this and my feet have been hurting since the > fall. I will try the seeds or pellets with the laser and the chiro > (whatever he's doing.) What I really need is to get my -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Going along with what Pete said, a good hot foot soak especially with herbs/ salts and then a foot massage for 30 min-1 hour is like a taste of heaven. Here in the SF/ Bay area, they run about $40 for 60 min in China town. They first soak your feet in a Dang gui... decoction, then clean them off with the steaming towel. Then they go at it. Well worth it. Saves the nerves for another month. Have you ever seen 'Raise the Red Lantern' ? Well, if you're not the chosen wife to get the jade foot tapping, there's always the cow or antelope horn tuina tools you can buy at OMS etc. By the way, has anyone seen Zhang Yi-mou's recent film: " Curse of the Golden Flower " ? What is that Persian mushroom that will make someone lose their mind at 2 grams/ day for 10 days? The head physician and his family play a pivotal role in the opulent drama. I've never seen so much ju hua. Was the Ju hua festival ever a true historical artifact? On 2/5/07, Pete Theisen <petetheisen wrote: > > On Monday 05 February 2007 11:12 pm, anne.crowley<anne.crowley%40comcast.net>wrote: > > Hi Anne! > > I have needled into the sole of the patient's feet with good result. > However, > I learned a very rapid insertion technique in school that everyone may not > > know. > > That said, you could try a little self massage of your feet. Kind of try > to > " pop " the knuckle joints of your toes. I can't say that is tui na, but it > does seem to release a lot of stagnation. > > > Ouch! > > > > I am being a big baby about this and my feet have been hurting since the > > fall. I will try the seeds or pellets with the laser and the chiro > > (whatever he's doing.) What I really need is to get my > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > -- 'Freedom from the desire for an answer is essential to the understanding of a problem.' Jiddu Krishnamurti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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