Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 That is really a modern way of achieving acupuncture and almost nonexistiant way of getting good herbal training. Most of the older practioneers learned at someones feet. Many of the finest herbalists that I know don't even have a BA and yet are true masters of the art. Up until very recently it only took 2 years of undergraduate and 2 years of AP school to get a license. I now have a MS in OM but can't hold a match to most herbalists that I study with. B anne.crowley wrote: Thanks for that background on Tierra's program. There is a graduate of that program in my town, so it helps in knowing the training. I do know that people can acheive this without a college degree and I guess I go back to my bias about that. I strongly believe in liberal arts education with technical education if the field requires. I just think professionals with certificaitons like herbalist, acupuncturists, doctor of anything should have degress, starting with a Bachelors and with the word doctor, an advanced degree of some kind, hopefully a Ph.D or MD or equivalent. Oh, boy I may have opened a flood gate on this education thing. I earned my Masters degree by the age of 25, put myself through college, was not living at home and it was not free education. I guess I am highly biased in this regard but always thought of education as I described above. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist > anyone can join, but to be a professional member you have to have a some form of > training, letters of recommondation, 4 years clinical experience, and turn in 3 > case studies that are reviewed by a three tiered system of other professional > members. I know of many people who are turned down. MTs course is a good one > and to get his recommendation to be a professional member requires that you > attend 3 of his 10 day intensives the last of which is working in his clinic > under his direct supervision. > I know many people who can memorize really well and pass the herb exam and yet > have no ability to work with herbs. For me, I would choose a professional member > to treat me with herbs before another acupuncturist. > Bob > www.acuherbals.com > > anne.crowley wrote: > Okay Bob, you may have opened a can of worms for me. Can't you be > included in the American Herbalist Guild after obtaining a distance degree such > as Michael Tierra's 36 lessons for 3 types of herbs, Chinese, Auryvedic, and > Western. This brings up the question of training again. While you can certainly > learn from these programs, I rather prefer someone who has sat in a seat in > acupuncture school for 1800, 2000 or 2300 hours. > > Anne > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist > > Great article, For those of you in the US I would recommend checking out the > > American Herbalists Guild www.americanherbalistsguild.com They have a great > > conference every year, with amazing speakers and they are working hard to > unify > > and create a standard for all herbalists regardless of system. > > Bob > > www.acuherbals.com > > > > <attiliodalberto wrote: > > Tom, > > > > A new European directive was introduced in October 2004, which has to > > be fully implemented by April 2011. The UK has been quick to > > implement this law whilst other European countries haven't. But > > herbal OTC sales have been outlawed. These decisions were made at th > > European HQ in Belgium! > > > > I'm not sure if Belgium uses the same Napolenic laws which means only > > western MD's can be called doctors or state their ability to treat, > > but in countries that do use Napolenic law such as France and Spain, > > herbal medicine will be totally outlawed whether its over the > > internet or in a clinic. You won't be able to even teach the use of > > herbs. If you read Stephen Gascoigne's column a few issues ago in > > Times, he states how this is affecting herbalists in > > France. > > > > I suggest you read the EU herbal regulation article again, carefully > > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php?xSec=132 If European > > countries do not introduce legislation to protect the title of > > herbalist (which also involves introducing regulation for herbal > > medicine), the practice of herbal medicine will be outlawed under the > > new European directive. > > > > Regards, > > > > Attilio > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe " > > <tom.verhaeghe wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not so sure if selling herbs (online) has been outlawed across > > Europe. > > > Many websites are active, and no changes have been made to Belgian > > law > > > applying to herbs. I don't see that this kind of thing can happen > > without > > > much media and public attention. > > > I'm not sure if outlawing sales of herbs is in fact progress, I > > respectfully > > > disagree with Attilio on this matter. If we follow this reasoning, > > all OTC > > > medicines should be outlawed, right? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Tom. > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist > > > 29/01/2007 14:58:39 > > > Chinese Medicine > > > Re: Internet herb store > > > > > > amazing since I usually think of Europe as being more liberal than > > the US. > > > To think they would outlaw plant medicine is surprising. Have they > > outlawed > > > all medicinal herbs or just chinese? > > > Bob > > > www.acuherbals.com > > > > > > <attiliodalberto wrote: > > > Selling patents and/or raw herbs online is now illegal in Europe, > > for > > > more info see http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php? > > > xSec=132. > > > > > > As i've said on another forum, i'm sure the US will follow and > > > introduce regulation to govern herbal medicine. It's progress. > > > > > > Attilio > > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > > > Recent Activity > > > 11New Members > > > 1New Links > > > Visit Your Group > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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