Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 I quoted a statistic about 5 posts ago regarding the high failure rate of acupuncture practices. The statistic is, " 79% of acupuncturists are not practicing within 5 years of graduation. " Sorry, I can't give the actual source. It was read to me in a class about 6 months after I graduated and it scared me to death. Since there was no other field that interested me or that I was trained for anymore, I absolutely had to make this work, come hell or high water. Over the years I've thought about this statistic and have thought about why it might be that there's such a high number of non-starters. I pondered my own class. I think that perhaps about 35% or so of my class (1997) is practicing, although I don't know that for certain. I intimated before that people failed because they couldn't do business. After thinking about it, though, I realized that probably 10% of my class never really intended to practice. A couple of them just went to school for the fun of it. One wanted to practice out of his van driving up and down the west coast. Some didn't have the people skills to get repeat business despite doing well on the exams. We can't really compare ourselves to traditional (western) practitioners, though. Think about MDs, or PTs, or DDSs, or RNs. How many of them HAVE to be self-employed because there are no jobs in their fields? Probably none. It's rare to find a renegade western practitioner out there on his/her own. Nearly all western practitioners are employed, the complications of business removed from their hands. We are not in that boat. How many " jobs " exist for acupuncturists? I wish I had that statistic. So, probably the 21% that do survive the 5-year mark is not much different than would be for any other field that required entrepreneurship. Perhaps we should be proud?? It sure would've been nice, however, to have been fully aware of this prior to attending school and taking out huge student loans. In a perfect world, I would expect the schools to divulge this information. But then, schools are a business and their job is to sell tuition and degrees, not be the baby-sitter to a profession (or should it be?). Thoughts? Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 This is a very good point. The biomedical healthcare industry has transformed MD's and other health care workers into technicians and employees from independent health care providers. Paul Unschuld makes a strong case in his recent book " What is Medicine? " (in process of being translated from German to English). His criteria for a physician (as opposed to technician) is control of fees by the profession, source of information, and decision making in diagnosis and treatment. Fees and approval for treatment are decided largely by insurance companies and HMO's, and information is largely supplied by the sciences, such as pharmacology, organic chemistry, etc., which are independent of the biomedical profession. Most Western healthcare providers work for large corporations, whether HMO's, hospital chains or group practices. While we are largely 'outsiders' in the CM field, with consequences for income status, there are advantages if we want to use them. There is a much larger degree of independence, but one has to be much more self-motivated to succeed. We still control our information sources (the Chinese medical literature), but how many of us truly take full advantage of this resource? On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Barbara Beale wrote: > We can't really compare ourselves to traditional (western) > practitioners, though. Think about MDs, or PTs, or DDSs, or RNs. > How many > of them HAVE to be self-employed because there are no jobs in their > fields? > Probably none. It's rare to find a renegade western practitioner > out there > on his/her own. Nearly all western practitioners are employed, the > complications of business removed from their hands. We are not in that > boat. How many " jobs " exist for acupuncturists? I wish I had that > statistic. > > So, probably the 21% that do survive the 5-year mark is not much > different > than would be for any other field that required entrepreneurship. > Perhaps > we should be proud?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Mr. Rosenberg, > While we are largely 'outsiders' in the CM field, with consequences > for income status, there are advantages if we want to use them. > There is a much larger degree of independence, but one has to be > much > more self-motivated to succeed. We still control our information > sources (the Chinese medical literature), but how many of us truly > take full advantage of this resource? Excellent points! Kind regards, Thomas Sorensen Chinese Medicine , " " <zrosenbe wrote: > > This is a very good point. The biomedical healthcare industry has > transformed MD's and other health care workers into technicians and > employees from independent health care providers. Paul Unschuld > makes a strong case in his recent book " What is Medicine? " (in > process of being translated from German to English). His criteria > for a physician (as opposed to technician) is control of fees by the > profession, source of information, and decision making in diagnosis > and treatment. Fees and approval for treatment are decided largely > by insurance companies and HMO's, and information is largely supplied > by the sciences, such as pharmacology, organic chemistry, etc., which > are independent of the biomedical profession. Most Western > healthcare providers work for large corporations, whether HMO's, > hospital chains or group practices. > > While we are largely 'outsiders' in the CM field, with consequences > for income status, there are advantages if we want to use them. > There is a much larger degree of independence, but one has to be much > more self-motivated to succeed. We still control our information > sources (the Chinese medical literature), but how many of us truly > take full advantage of this resource? > > > On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Barbara Beale wrote: > > > We can't really compare ourselves to traditional (western) > > practitioners, though. Think about MDs, or PTs, or DDSs, or RNs. > > How many > > of them HAVE to be self-employed because there are no jobs in their > > fields? > > Probably none. It's rare to find a renegade western practitioner > > out there > > on his/her own. Nearly all western practitioners are employed, the > > complications of business removed from their hands. We are not in that > > boat. How many " jobs " exist for acupuncturists? I wish I had that > > statistic. > > > > So, probably the 21% that do survive the 5-year mark is not much > > different > > than would be for any other field that required entrepreneurship. > > Perhaps > > we should be proud?? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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