Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:46:31 -0800 (PST), Fran mystir <ykcul_ritsym wrote: >>I guess I'm banging on the door of an awareness question. Can, does, a false or negative continuing interpretation or awareness, be itself a pathogen. Fran, Perhaps at the doorway to inner mysteries of CM (tongue-in-cheek – mystir?). Seriously, your thought brings to mind a differentiation I learned recently from Jeffery Yuen, between heart-kidney non-communication (bu jiao) and kidney-heart non-communication --which, again, touches on the water-fire metaphor. The heart/PC seeks vision (and hence exploration/control/conquest) of everything experienced in life, bringing it into the right proportion/relationship (Ted Kaptuchuk once noted the positive virtue of the heart as " propriety " ), and the kidney provides the source of all possibilities (Dao & #61664;yinyang & #61664;the 10000 things). Kidney can be seen also as an abyss of confusing possibilities, partnering with the heart to organize and orient. 1) Heart not communicating with kidney is disturbance in the vision aspect, not seeing (heart) new possibilities (in the generative chaos of the kidneys), as in " zang zao " or " visceral aggitation " , a condition, a sense of hopelessness classically found in fuke. 2) Kidney not communicating with heart is kidney becoming unable to create properly, instead generating " false reality " , or delusion. The rational aspect of the heart then becomes disoriented, in the direction of schizophrenia. (This characterization was in the context of a lecture on PTSD, in the context of considering the mechanisms whereby a past trauma can entrench itself as a persistent and often continuously downhill pathology.) In other words, yes. I would say awareness and its content, from multiple perspectives, are fundamental aspects of CM physiology and pathology (and treatment). also Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:56:27 –0000 >>… it didn't seem to be captured by the usual sign-symptom differential diagnosis approach. Diagnosis in classical interpretation seems to be sometimes not pattern matching of symptoms into static patterns (TCM), but rather getting a sense of the process going on in the patient, in terms of the classical metaphorical physiological mechanisms, and then treating to help guide that process, as you probably know. BTW, do you (or who you got it from) take " shooting " in the sense that the water is striking, damaging the Yang (like with a bullet or arrow), or in the sense of propelling, maybe overactively energizing the Yang, to the point of wildness? Also BTW, your discription " The Pure Yang, (as I understand it- the essence of essences… " is very well put, and resembles a view I've learned not from the books. Where did you find this kind of way of understanding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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