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Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:46:31 -0800 (PST), Fran mystir

<ykcul_ritsym wrote:

>>I guess I'm banging on the door of an awareness question. Can,

does, a false or negative continuing interpretation or awareness, be

itself a pathogen.

 

Fran,

 

Perhaps at the doorway to inner mysteries of CM (tongue-in-cheek –

mystir?). Seriously, your thought brings to mind a differentiation I

learned recently from Jeffery Yuen, between heart-kidney

non-communication (bu jiao) and kidney-heart non-communication

--which, again, touches on the water-fire metaphor.

 

The heart/PC seeks vision (and hence exploration/control/conquest) of

everything experienced in life, bringing it into the right

proportion/relationship (Ted Kaptuchuk once noted the positive virtue

of the heart as " propriety " ), and the kidney provides the source of

all possibilities (Dao & #61664;yinyang & #61664;the 10000 things). Kidney can be

seen

also as an abyss of confusing possibilities, partnering with the heart

to organize and orient.

 

1) Heart not communicating with kidney is disturbance in the vision

aspect, not seeing (heart) new possibilities (in the generative chaos

of the kidneys), as in " zang zao " or " visceral aggitation " , a

condition, a sense of hopelessness classically found in fuke.

 

2) Kidney not communicating with heart is kidney becoming unable to

create properly, instead generating " false reality " , or delusion. The

rational aspect of the heart then becomes disoriented, in the

direction of schizophrenia.

 

(This characterization was in the context of a lecture on PTSD, in the

context of considering the mechanisms whereby a past trauma can

entrench itself as a persistent and often continuously downhill

pathology.)

 

In other words, yes. I would say awareness and its content, from

multiple perspectives, are fundamental aspects of CM physiology and

pathology (and treatment).

 

also Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:56:27 –0000

>>… it didn't seem to be captured by the usual sign-symptom

differential diagnosis approach.

 

Diagnosis in classical interpretation seems to be sometimes not

pattern matching of symptoms into static patterns (TCM), but rather

getting a sense of the process going on in the patient, in terms of

the classical metaphorical physiological mechanisms, and then treating

to help guide that process, as you probably know.

 

BTW, do you (or who you got it from) take " shooting " in the sense that

the water is striking, damaging the Yang (like with a bullet or

arrow), or in the sense of propelling, maybe overactively energizing

the Yang, to the point of wildness?

 

Also BTW, your discription " The Pure Yang, (as I understand it- the

essence of essences… " is very well put, and resembles a view I've

learned not from the books. Where did you find this kind of way of

understanding?

 

 

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