Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Dear All , I have a patient with suspicion to Barret esophagitis .. though he has improved on his esophageal refluxes by using p6 st36 ren 12 and auricular points but he gets relapses . I was wondering if any body has any information on acupuncture and Barret esophaitis ,( abstracts , articles or....)personal experiences . would be happy to read your comments. regards. Fadaie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Dear Fadaie, I found no references to Barrett's oesophagitis in the Chinese literature. There are articles on oesophagitis though, often using the points you mentioned plus some of the back shu points. Selection of points depends on pattern diagnosis. I have treated a few patients with oesophagitis and have always gotten good results. At least one person relapsed after a few months. She is taking her herbs again now (a modification of xiao yao san), and I haven't heard from her since. There is also a chapter on reflux oesophagitis in Flaws' and Sionneau's book on western medical diseases. Best, Tom. ---- majid fadaie 24/12/2006 5:53:37 Chinese Medicine Barret esophagitis Dear All , I have a patient with suspicion to Barret esophagitis ... though he has improved on his esophageal refluxes by using p6 st36 ren 12 and auricular points but he gets relapses . I was wondering if any body has any information on acupuncture and Barret esophaitis ,( abstracts , articles or....)personal experiences . would be happy to read your comments. regards. Fadaie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 just remember it puts the pt at higher risk for cancer Oakland, CA 94609 - Tom Verhaeghe Chinese Medicine Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:48 AM Re: Barret esophagitis Dear Fadaie, I found no references to Barrett's oesophagitis in the Chinese literature. There are articles on oesophagitis though, often using the points you mentioned plus some of the back shu points. Selection of points depends on pattern diagnosis. I have treated a few patients with oesophagitis and have always gotten good results. At least one person relapsed after a few months. She is taking her herbs again now (a modification of xiao yao san), and I haven't heard from her since. There is also a chapter on reflux oesophagitis in Flaws' and Sionneau's book on western medical diseases. Best, Tom. ---- majid fadaie 24/12/2006 5:53:37 Chinese Medicine Barret esophagitis Dear All , I have a patient with suspicion to Barret esophagitis .. though he has improved on his esophageal refluxes by using p6 st36 ren 12 and auricular points but he gets relapses . I was wondering if any body has any information on acupuncture and Barret esophaitis ,( abstracts , articles or....)personal experiences . would be happy to read your comments. regards. Fadaie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Dear Alon and Tom . thank you for your input, since there is a possibility of transformation to cancer .patient is asked to have regular check up by his gastroenterologist doctor . there was a very interesting finding on this patient ,the auricular area for allergies in triangular fossa is the most sensitive point when measurement is done by electrical resistance.it seems there is a co relation between the two . patient shows frequent improvement and relapses .I just trying to keep his re fluxes down to allow for epithelial re coverage if possible. Tom could you tell me what pattern diagnosis and back shu points have been discusses in the books that you mentioned? great thanks for the info. Fadaie --- <alonmarcus wrote: > just remember it puts the pt at higher risk for > cancer > > > > > Oakland, CA 94609 > > > - > Tom Verhaeghe > Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:48 AM > Re: Barret esophagitis > > > > Dear Fadaie, > > I found no references to Barrett's oesophagitis in > the Chinese literature. > There are articles on oesophagitis though, often > using the points you > mentioned plus some of the back shu points. > Selection of points depends on > pattern diagnosis. > > I have treated a few patients with oesophagitis > and have always gotten good > results. At least one person relapsed after a few > months. She is taking her > herbs again now (a modification of xiao yao san), > and I haven't heard from > her since. > > There is also a chapter on reflux oesophagitis in > Flaws' and Sionneau's book > on western medical diseases. > > Best, > > Tom. > > ---- > > majid fadaie > 24/12/2006 5:53:37 > Chinese Medicine > Barret esophagitis > > Dear All , > > I have a patient with suspicion to Barret > esophagitis > .. though he has improved on his esophageal > refluxes by > using p6 st36 ren 12 and auricular points but he > gets > relapses . > I was wondering if any body has any information on > acupuncture and Barret esophaitis ,( abstracts , > articles or....)personal experiences . > > would be happy to read your comments. > regards. > Fadaie > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Alon: Can you please clarify. What puts the patient at a higher risk for cancer? Thanks, Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " " <alonmarcus > just remember it puts the pt at higher risk for cancer > > > > > Oakland, CA 94609 > > > - > Tom Verhaeghe > Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:48 AM > Re: Barret esophagitis > > > > Dear Fadaie, > > I found no references to Barrett's oesophagitis in the Chinese literature. > There are articles on oesophagitis though, often using the points you > mentioned plus some of the back shu points. Selection of points depends on > pattern diagnosis. > > I have treated a few patients with oesophagitis and have always gotten good > results. At least one person relapsed after a few months. She is taking her > herbs again now (a modification of xiao yao san), and I haven't heard from > her since. > > There is also a chapter on reflux oesophagitis in Flaws' and Sionneau's book > on western medical diseases. > > Best, > > Tom. > > ---- > > majid fadaie > 24/12/2006 5:53:37 > Chinese Medicine > Barret esophagitis > > Dear All , > > I have a patient with suspicion to Barret esophagitis > .. though he has improved on his esophageal refluxes by > using p6 st36 ren 12 and auricular points but he gets > relapses . > I was wondering if any body has any information on > acupuncture and Barret esophaitis ,( abstracts , > articles or....)personal experiences . > > would be happy to read your comments. > regards. > Fadaie > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Anne with barret's the lining of the esophagus is replaced with a darker lining that looks more like the stomach lining. Pt with this type of issue are at increased risk of developing esophageal adenocarcinoma. Reflux is also thought to increase this risk. Oakland, CA 94609 - anne.crowley Chinese Medicine Thursday, January 04, 2007 6:09 PM Re: Barret esophagitis Alon: Can you please clarify. What puts the patient at a higher risk for cancer? Thanks, Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " " <alonmarcus > just remember it puts the pt at higher risk for cancer > > > > > Oakland, CA 94609 > > > - > Tom Verhaeghe > Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:48 AM > Re: Barret esophagitis > > > > Dear Fadaie, > > I found no references to Barrett's oesophagitis in the Chinese literature. > There are articles on oesophagitis though, often using the points you > mentioned plus some of the back shu points. Selection of points depends on > pattern diagnosis. > > I have treated a few patients with oesophagitis and have always gotten good > results. At least one person relapsed after a few months. She is taking her > herbs again now (a modification of xiao yao san), and I haven't heard from > her since. > > There is also a chapter on reflux oesophagitis in Flaws' and Sionneau's book > on western medical diseases. > > Best, > > Tom. > > ---- > > majid fadaie > 24/12/2006 5:53:37 > Chinese Medicine > Barret esophagitis > > Dear All , > > I have a patient with suspicion to Barret esophagitis > .. though he has improved on his esophageal refluxes by > using p6 st36 ren 12 and auricular points but he gets > relapses . > I was wondering if any body has any information on > acupuncture and Barret esophaitis ,( abstracts , > articles or....)personal experiences . > > would be happy to read your comments. > regards. > Fadaie > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Thanks Alon, Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " " <alonmarcus > Anne > with barret's the lining of the esophagus is replaced with a darker lining that > looks more like the stomach lining. Pt with this type of issue are at increased > risk of developing esophageal adenocarcinoma. Reflux is also thought to increase > this risk. > > > > > Oakland, CA 94609 > > > - > anne.crowley > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, January 04, 2007 6:09 PM > Re: Barret esophagitis > > > Alon: > > Can you please clarify. What puts the patient at a higher risk for cancer? > > Thanks, > > Anne > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > " " <alonmarcus > > just remember it puts the pt at higher risk for cancer > > > > > > > > > > Oakland, CA 94609 > > > > > > - > > Tom Verhaeghe > > Chinese Medicine > > Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:48 AM > > Re: Barret esophagitis > > > > > > > > Dear Fadaie, > > > > I found no references to Barrett's oesophagitis in the Chinese literature. > > There are articles on oesophagitis though, often using the points you > > mentioned plus some of the back shu points. Selection of points depends on > > pattern diagnosis. > > > > I have treated a few patients with oesophagitis and have always gotten good > > results. At least one person relapsed after a few months. She is taking her > > herbs again now (a modification of xiao yao san), and I haven't heard from > > her since. > > > > There is also a chapter on reflux oesophagitis in Flaws' and Sionneau's book > > on western medical diseases. > > > > Best, > > > > Tom. > > > > ---- > > > > majid fadaie > > 24/12/2006 5:53:37 > > Chinese Medicine > > Barret esophagitis > > > > Dear All , > > > > I have a patient with suspicion to Barret esophagitis > > .. though he has improved on his esophageal refluxes by > > using p6 st36 ren 12 and auricular points but he gets > > relapses . > > I was wondering if any body has any information on > > acupuncture and Barret esophaitis ,( abstracts , > > articles or....)personal experiences . > > > > would be happy to read your comments. > > regards. > > Fadaie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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