Here we go again: Weight loss (w/ Protocol)

December 22, 2006

Ok, here's one protocol I dug up from our group's

past.

Straight forward, understandable, so still looking

for personal experiences. Anyone?

" jasonwcom "

Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol

Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:17:26 -0000

From Tran Viet Dzung:

This is someone's rough notes I cannot copy the

graphics and the

footnotes which explain a lot into this text format.

If anyone wants

the full thing e mail me...

Etiologies of Obesity:

Energetic Medicine Western Medicine

1. Poor Dietï¿½ï¿½ Deficient Spleen Yang 1. Digestive

Problems

2. Stress: Liver Fire 2. Stress &

Psychological Factors

3. Deficient Innate Kidney Yang 3. Genetic and

Neurologic

Must treat correctly and preventatively. Do not wait

to treat, treat

before the patient becomes obese.

I. Poor Diet: Deficient Spleen Yang

1. overindulgence of food

2. eating too fast

3. eating too cold

Instead of the Spleen humidity going towards the Lungs

it goes to

phlegm. Phlegm is the materialization of the stagnant

humidity due

to hypofunctioning of the Spleen as a result of poor

diet.

Humidity ï¿½ï¿½ Phlegm Cold ï¿½ï¿½ Phlegm Heat. The

cold becomes maximum and

then polarizes into heat. Phlegm Heat ï¿½ï¿½ Phlegm

Fire. Phlegm Fire

moves and goes anywhere it wants, e.g. phlegm fire

causes cough,

asthma. Another example is the bockage of energy in

the shoulder

because phlegm fire has affected all channels that go

through the

shoulder and this can lead to epilepsy, connective

tissue,

dermatitis, hemaplagia, or obesity and cellulites.

Treatment: Must

treat the Spleen.

II. Stress: Liver Fire

1. Psychological Factors

2. Permanent Stress of our society

Stress, fear of other psychological factorsï¿½ï¿½

ï¿½ï¿½ Kidney ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½Liver Yang ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½

Spleen Yang ï¿½ï¿½

Obesity

Liver fire may be caused y psychological factors or by

permanent

stress of our society. Stress inhibits Kidney Yin

which leads to an

unfurling of Kidney Yang, which leads to Liver Fire,

which acts on

the Spleen. Fear, which causes epinephrine surges,

decreases Kidney

Yin and increases Kidney Yang. In addition,

epinephrine causes and a

decrease glc uptake of muscles leading to insulin

resistance. This

insulin resistance is the result of the

Spleen/Pancreas not

functioning properly.

III. Deficient Innate Kidney Yang

ï¿½ï¿½ Kidney Yang ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ Spleen Yang

Treatment Protocols for the Three Types of Obesity

I. Poor Diet: Deficient Spleen Yang

1. Spleen/Stomach System Reflex

-1- Shu-Mu Bl-20, Bl-21, Li-13, CV-12,

add source Sp-3, St-42

-2- Middle Jiao CV-12 (fundus), St-25, CV-10

(pylorus),

CV-13 (cardia), Bl-22

-3- Mobilize MF Moxa Bl-13, Bl-14, Bl-15, Bl-

42, Bl-43, Bl-44

add GV-14

-4- YangMing LI-4, LI-4, St-36, Sp-6

2. Wei Reflex

-1- Formation CV-5, CV-7, Bl-22

-2- Circulation inferior: St-30, CV-12, Li-13, Li-14

superior: St-5, St-9, CV-22,

CV-23, GV-14

-3- Ying Transit abdomen: Ki-16, St-25

back-shu: Moxa T10ï¿½ï¿½ S1

-4-Root/Summit Sp: Sp-6, CV-23

St: St-45, St-9

3. Thinking Reflex `Move the thinking'

-1- Move Thinking Sp-1 move thinking

GB-40 make decision

Ki-3 take action

-2- Treat Yi T4/T5

Bl-20, Bl-49

-3- Treat Mental preoccupation: Sp-1

anger: Li-4

sadness: Lu-10

4. Treat the Phlegm St-40 , St-37, Sp-3

II. Stress: Liver Fire

1. Calm Fire Li-3, GB-34

2. Treat Hun C7/T1, Bl-18, Bl-47

3. Treat Anger Li-4, and sparingly Li-8

4. Tonify Ki Yin

-1- Shu-Mu CV-4, Bl-23, Bl-52, Ki-3, Ki-7

-2- Zhi T7/T8

-3- LJ CV-5, CV-7; moxa Bl-22

-4- Calm Ki-3

III. Deficient Innate Kidney Yang

1. Tonify Ki Yang CV-4, GV-4

2. Circulate Heat in Cells

-1- CV (1) Sp/St CV-12, CV-13,

CV-10

(2) Wei LJ CV-5, CV-7

-2- Chong Mai Ki-11, Ki-12, Sp-4, XB-6

3. Nasal Curious Points for St & Sp and sometimes

Li/Ki

IV. Local Treatment for Obesity

1. Internal Path of the Spleen: Needle with long

needle

from a point 3 cun lateral to CV-3 toward Sp-16,

angled low to high and medial to lateral into the

dermis layer. Length of needle depends on the severity

of the obesity.

Electrostimulate dispersion 20-30 minutes.

2. Needle Thigh: GB-30 ï¿½ï¿½ GB-31 in the dermis

layer. Thread and electrostimulate dispersion.

(He means moxa on all shu points in this)

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December 23, 2006

Hugo:

I see you are still interested in personal experiences with weight loss. I am

5E Worsley trained and what we were always told was to treat the constitutional

factor and everything else comes into alignment. Now, I have added all kinds of

things into the mix. always keeping the constituiton in mind in my selection of

points.

Both with smoking and weight loss, I am very direct with new patients that I am

only supporting their decision to do this. I have needles that can help

facilitate it, but good eating and excercise habits will always be the key - and

of course their will to do it.

I don't know hypnosis, but I imagine that can jump start some things, to train

the subconscious mind to want what the conscious mind say it wants.

My experience with my current patients is that they come to this in their own

time. I bring up exercise all the time - try not to badger. I think that is so

important for moving blood and Qi. Of course, diet is too and I do address this

but stay on the exercise thing.

I had a patient come for Bells Palsey - highly motivated to be in treatment.

After two months of regular treatments - he says oh, by the way I quit smoking.

Then later he states he started lifting weights again. I was also treating him

constituitionally along with points for Bells Palsey.

I had another woman I have seen for over a year. She is in her late 30's and is

overweight - I would guess 200 lbs or more. She never mentioned wanting to

loose weight. I could see it was a health hazard for her but she was not going

to drink out of that water trough. She came for anxiety and phobias and that's

what I treated along with her constitution. After a while she said, " I joined

Curves - which is a half hour workout designed for people who know little about

exercise, and usually have to loose a lot of weight or are just very new at it.

I was delighted to here that. Months later she said " I joined the Sport and

Health club. " I was more delighted. This is more intense aerobics and good

machines. A month or so before Christmas, she tells me she is on a diet where

(a new fad) but it has good food to eat.

I find that when people feel better, you get their energy in alignment, you

bring up healthy routines without pushing, - things start to happen.

This is just my expereince, Hugo. I am sure their are many ways to do it.

Take Care,

Anne

-------------- Original message ----------------------

Hugo Ramiro <subincor

> Ok, here's one protocol I dug up from our group's

> past.

> Straight forward, understandable, so still looking

> for personal experiences. Anyone?

>

> " jasonwcom "

> Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol

> Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:17:26 -0000

>

> From Tran Viet Dzung:

> This is someone's rough notes I cannot copy the

> graphics and the

> footnotes which explain a lot into this text format.

> If anyone wants

> the full thing e mail me...

>

> Etiologies of Obesity:

>

> Energetic Medicine Western Medicine

> 1. Poor Dietï¿½ï¿½ Deficient Spleen Yang 1. Digestive

> Problems

> 2. Stress: Liver Fire 2. Stress &

> Psychological Factors

> 3. Deficient Innate Kidney Yang 3. Genetic and

> Neurologic

>

> Must treat correctly and preventatively. Do not wait

> to treat, treat

> before the patient becomes obese.

>

> I. Poor Diet: Deficient Spleen Yang

> 1. overindulgence of food

> 2. eating too fast

> 3. eating too cold

>

> Instead of the Spleen humidity going towards the Lungs

> it goes to

> phlegm. Phlegm is the materialization of the stagnant

> humidity due

> to hypofunctioning of the Spleen as a result of poor

> diet.

>

> Humidity ï¿½ï¿½ Phlegm Cold ï¿½ï¿½ Phlegm Heat. The

> cold becomes maximum and

> then polarizes into heat. Phlegm Heat ï¿½ï¿½ Phlegm

> Fire. Phlegm Fire

> moves and goes anywhere it wants, e.g. phlegm fire

> causes cough,

> asthma. Another example is the bockage of energy in

> the shoulder

> because phlegm fire has affected all channels that go

> through the

> shoulder and this can lead to epilepsy, connective

> tissue,

> dermatitis, hemaplagia, or obesity and cellulites.

> Treatment: Must

> treat the Spleen.

>

> II. Stress: Liver Fire

>

> 1. Psychological Factors

> 2. Permanent Stress of our society

>

> Stress, fear of other psychological factorsï¿½ï¿½

> ï¿½ï¿½ Kidney ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½Liver Yang ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½

> Spleen Yang ï¿½ï¿½

> Obesity

> Liver fire may be caused y psychological factors or by

> permanent

> stress of our society. Stress inhibits Kidney Yin

> which leads to an

> unfurling of Kidney Yang, which leads to Liver Fire,

> which acts on

> the Spleen. Fear, which causes epinephrine surges,

> decreases Kidney

> Yin and increases Kidney Yang. In addition,

> epinephrine causes and a

> decrease glc uptake of muscles leading to insulin

> resistance. This

> insulin resistance is the result of the

> Spleen/Pancreas not

> functioning properly.

>

> III. Deficient Innate Kidney Yang

>

> ï¿½ï¿½ Kidney Yang ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ Spleen Yang

>

> Treatment Protocols for the Three Types of Obesity

>

> I. Poor Diet: Deficient Spleen Yang

> 1. Spleen/Stomach System Reflex

> -1- Shu-Mu Bl-20, Bl-21, Li-13, CV-12,

> add source Sp-3, St-42

> -2- Middle Jiao CV-12 (fundus), St-25, CV-10

> (pylorus),

> CV-13 (cardia), Bl-22

> -3- Mobilize MF Moxa Bl-13, Bl-14, Bl-15, Bl-

> 42, Bl-43, Bl-44

> add GV-14

> -4- YangMing LI-4, LI-4, St-36, Sp-6

>

> 2. Wei Reflex

> -1- Formation CV-5, CV-7, Bl-22

> -2- Circulation inferior: St-30, CV-12, Li-13, Li-14

> superior: St-5, St-9, CV-22,

> CV-23, GV-14

> -3- Ying Transit abdomen: Ki-16, St-25

> back-shu: Moxa T10ï¿½ï¿½ S1

> -4-Root/Summit Sp: Sp-6, CV-23

> St: St-45, St-9

>

> 3. Thinking Reflex `Move the thinking'

> -1- Move Thinking Sp-1 move thinking

> GB-40 make decision

> Ki-3 take action

> -2- Treat Yi T4/T5

> Bl-20, Bl-49

> -3- Treat Mental preoccupation: Sp-1

> anger: Li-4

> sadness: Lu-10

>

> 4. Treat the Phlegm St-40 , St-37, Sp-3

>

> II. Stress: Liver Fire

>

> 1. Calm Fire Li-3, GB-34

> 2. Treat Hun C7/T1, Bl-18, Bl-47

> 3. Treat Anger Li-4, and sparingly Li-8

> 4. Tonify Ki Yin

> -1- Shu-Mu CV-4, Bl-23, Bl-52, Ki-3, Ki-7

> -2- Zhi T7/T8

> -3- LJ CV-5, CV-7; moxa Bl-22

> -4- Calm Ki-3

>

> III. Deficient Innate Kidney Yang

>

> 1. Tonify Ki Yang CV-4, GV-4

> 2. Circulate Heat in Cells

> -1- CV (1) Sp/St CV-12, CV-13,

> CV-10

> (2) Wei LJ CV-5, CV-7

> -2- Chong Mai Ki-11, Ki-12, Sp-4, XB-6

> 3. Nasal Curious Points for St & Sp and sometimes

> Li/Ki

>

> IV. Local Treatment for Obesity

>

> 1. Internal Path of the Spleen: Needle with long

> needle

> from a point 3 cun lateral to CV-3 toward Sp-16,

> angled low to high and medial to lateral into the

> dermis layer. Length of needle depends on the severity

> of the obesity.

> Electrostimulate dispersion 20-30 minutes.

>

> 2. Needle Thigh: GB-30 ï¿½ï¿½ GB-31 in the dermis

> layer. Thread and electrostimulate dispersion.

> (He means moxa on all shu points in this)

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

December 23, 2006

Hi all,

I agree that weight loss is an integral part of our practices, since obesity

can be the cause or extension of many health problems, such as CHD and

diabetes II.

Also, working with weight loss can be a door opening proposal to those who

may never think of using Oriental medicine for their other health issues.

I'm working with a 36 year old woman who has lost 20 lbs in the last 3

months (265-245 lbs; 5'4 " ) .

Her Consitutional diagnosis is SP and KD yang def with Damp accumulation.

She has frequent urination, cold limbs and mild depression.

The protocol I've been using is Four doors treatment : ST 25, Ren 12, Ren

6; Four Gates LV 3 and LI 4;(SP 9 and ST 40 unilateral - alternating sides

with treatments)

and ear shen men, ST, LV area (alternating sides with treatments)

Total 13 points / treatment.

1 treatment / week.

She gets a back and yangming channel massage 2x/ month for 20 min.

8 direct thread size moxa on Ren 9, Ren 6-Ren 4 2x/ month.

She drinks 3 liters of water/ day and eats 3 small meals/ day.

She has increased her protein intake to about 30% of her diet.

She has decreased her carb intake to about 40% of her diet.

The rest are fruits and vegetables, black tea and the social glass of wine.

Herbally, I started out with a modified Jin gui shen qi tang and Wu ling

san. Although the former formula warms KD yang, it has 2 diuretics in it:

Fu ling and Ze xie. Wu ling san is composed of Ze xie, Fu ling, Gui zhi,

Bai zhu and Zhu ling, which shares 3 herbs with the original JGSQT. I used

Rou gui, instead of Gui zhi and after the first week, took out ze xie. Ze

xie was giving her diarrhea. I think having 2 mild diuretics: Fu ling and

Zhu ling is enough. Ze xie was too strong for her weak and cold digestion.

I added Qian shi and her diarrhea went away.

The constitutional formula is : Shu di (small dose, because this can be

cloying), Shan yao (small dose, because this tonifies SP yin, which can be

dampening), Shan zhu yu, Fu ling, Zhu ling, Bai zhu, Mu dan pi, Rou gui,

Jiang zhi Fu zi.

Some people use Jiao gu lan, Fan xie ye and Papaya Leaf (enzyme:papain) for

weight loss.

Bojenmi Tea is composed of 50% white tea and the rest is a modification of

Bao He wan enzymatic herbs.

Pu erh and Wu long teas have been proven to contribute to weight loss

(caffeine is a diuretic).

Zhi shi is a component of weight loss formulas, but also can increase blood

pressure.

Ma huang has been banned from importation into the country, although is not

illegal to use within the U.S. (I think it is dangerous to use ma huang, zhi

shi, da huang etc for weight loss).

Terry Oleson has an entire auricular protocol in his book: Auriculotherapy

Manual 2nd edition pg. 182-183.

He includes Primary points: Appetite control, mouth, stomach, small

intestines, shen men

Secondary points: Point zero (next to St point), thalamus point, master

sensorial, master cerebral, endocrine point, anti-depressent point, occiput.

Most importantly, she has the desire and dedication to losing weight

naturally and slowly (without strong diuretics). Also, consequently, her

blood pressure has also normalized since losing 20 lbs.

Her ideal weight is 130-160. So, there is still a ways to go.

Hope this helps. K.

On 12/23/06, anne.crowley <anne.crowley wrote:

>

> Hugo:

>

> I see you are still interested in personal experiences with weight

> loss. I am 5E Worsley trained and what we were always told was to treat the

> constitutional factor and everything else comes into alignment. Now, I have

> added all kinds of things into the mix. always keeping the constituiton in

> mind in my selection of points.

>

> Both with smoking and weight loss, I am very direct with new

> patients that I am only supporting their decision to do this. I have

> needles that can help facilitate it, but good eating and excercise habits

> will always be the key - and of course their will to do it.

>

> I don't know hypnosis, but I imagine that can jump start some things, to

> train the subconscious mind to want what the conscious mind say it wants.

>

> My experience with my current patients is that they come to this in their

> own time. I bring up exercise all the time - try not to badger. I think

> that is so important for moving blood and Qi. Of course, diet is too and I

> do address this but stay on the exercise thing.

>

> I had a patient come for Bells Palsey - highly motivated to be in

> treatment. After two months of regular treatments - he says oh, by the way

> I quit smoking. Then later he states he started lifting weights again. I

> was also treating him constituitionally along with points for Bells Palsey.

>

> I had another woman I have seen for over a year. She is in her late 30's

> and is overweight - I would guess 200 lbs or more. She never mentioned

> wanting to loose weight. I could see it was a health hazard for her but she

> was not going to drink out of that water trough. She came for anxiety and

> phobias and that's what I treated along with her constitution. After a

> while she said, " I joined Curves - which is a half hour workout designed for

> people who know little about exercise, and usually have to loose a lot of

> weight or are just very new at it. I was delighted to here that. Months

> later she said " I joined the Sport and Health club. " I was more

> delighted. This is more intense aerobics and good machines. A month or so

> before Christmas, she tells me she is on a diet where (a new fad) but it has

> good food to eat.

>

> I find that when people feel better, you get their energy in alignment,

> you bring up healthy routines without pushing, - things start to happen.

>

> This is just my expereince, Hugo. I am sure their are many ways to do it.

>

> Take Care,

>

> Anne

>

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> Hugo Ramiro <subincor

> > Ok, here's one protocol I dug up from our group's

> > past.

> > Straight forward, understandable, so still looking

> > for personal experiences. Anyone?

> >

> > " jasonwcom "

> > Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol

> > Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:17:26 -0000

> >

> > From Tran Viet Dzung:

> > This is someone's rough notes I cannot copy the

> > graphics and the

> > footnotes which explain a lot into this text format.

> > If anyone wants

> > the full thing e mail me...

> >

> > Etiologies of Obesity:

> >

> > Energetic Medicine Western Medicine

> > 1. Poor Dietï¿½ï¿½ Deficient Spleen Yang 1. Digestive

> > Problems

> > 2. Stress: Liver Fire 2. Stress &

> > Psychological Factors

> > 3. Deficient Innate Kidney Yang 3. Genetic and

> > Neurologic

> >

> > Must treat correctly and preventatively. Do not wait

> > to treat, treat

> > before the patient becomes obese.

> >

> > I. Poor Diet: Deficient Spleen Yang

> > 1. overindulgence of food

> > 2. eating too fast

> > 3. eating too cold

> >

> > Instead of the Spleen humidity going towards the Lungs

> > it goes to

> > phlegm. Phlegm is the materialization of the stagnant

> > humidity due

> > to hypofunctioning of the Spleen as a result of poor

> > diet.

> >

> > Humidity ï¿½ï¿½ Phlegm Cold ï¿½ï¿½ Phlegm Heat. The

> > cold becomes maximum and

> > then polarizes into heat. Phlegm Heat ï¿½ï¿½ Phlegm

> > Fire. Phlegm Fire

> > moves and goes anywhere it wants, e.g. phlegm fire

> > causes cough,

> > asthma. Another example is the bockage of energy in

> > the shoulder

> > because phlegm fire has affected all channels that go

> > through the

> > shoulder and this can lead to epilepsy, connective

> > tissue,

> > dermatitis, hemaplagia, or obesity and cellulites.

> > Treatment: Must

> > treat the Spleen.

> >

> > II. Stress: Liver Fire

> >

> > 1. Psychological Factors

> > 2. Permanent Stress of our society

> >

> > Stress, fear of other psychological factorsï¿½ï¿½

> > ï¿½ï¿½ Kidney ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½Liver Yang ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½

> > Spleen Yang ï¿½ï¿½

> > Obesity

> > Liver fire may be caused y psychological factors or by

> > permanent

> > stress of our society. Stress inhibits Kidney Yin

> > which leads to an

> > unfurling of Kidney Yang, which leads to Liver Fire,

> > which acts on

> > the Spleen. Fear, which causes epinephrine surges,

> > decreases Kidney

> > Yin and increases Kidney Yang. In addition,

> > epinephrine causes and a

> > decrease glc uptake of muscles leading to insulin

> > resistance. This

> > insulin resistance is the result of the

> > Spleen/Pancreas not

> > functioning properly.

> >

> > III. Deficient Innate Kidney Yang

> >

> > ï¿½ï¿½ Kidney Yang ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ Spleen Yang

> >

> > Treatment Protocols for the Three Types of Obesity

> >

> > I. Poor Diet: Deficient Spleen Yang

> > 1. Spleen/Stomach System Reflex

> > -1- Shu-Mu Bl-20, Bl-21, Li-13, CV-12,

> > add source Sp-3, St-42

> > -2- Middle Jiao CV-12 (fundus), St-25, CV-10

> > (pylorus),

> > CV-13 (cardia), Bl-22

> > -3- Mobilize MF Moxa Bl-13, Bl-14, Bl-15, Bl-

> > 42, Bl-43, Bl-44

> > add GV-14

> > -4- YangMing LI-4, LI-4, St-36, Sp-6

> >

> > 2. Wei Reflex

> > -1- Formation CV-5, CV-7, Bl-22

> > -2- Circulation inferior: St-30, CV-12, Li-13, Li-14

> > superior: St-5, St-9, CV-22,

> > CV-23, GV-14

> > -3- Ying Transit abdomen: Ki-16, St-25

> > back-shu: Moxa T10ï¿½ï¿½ S1

> > -4-Root/Summit Sp: Sp-6, CV-23

> > St: St-45, St-9

> >

> > 3. Thinking Reflex `Move the thinking'

> > -1- Move Thinking Sp-1 move thinking

> > GB-40 make decision

> > Ki-3 take action

> > -2- Treat Yi T4/T5

> > Bl-20, Bl-49

> > -3- Treat Mental preoccupation: Sp-1

> > anger: Li-4

> > sadness: Lu-10

> >

> > 4. Treat the Phlegm St-40 , St-37, Sp-3

> >

> > II. Stress: Liver Fire

> >

> > 1. Calm Fire Li-3, GB-34

> > 2. Treat Hun C7/T1, Bl-18, Bl-47

> > 3. Treat Anger Li-4, and sparingly Li-8

> > 4. Tonify Ki Yin

> > -1- Shu-Mu CV-4, Bl-23, Bl-52, Ki-3, Ki-7

> > -2- Zhi T7/T8

> > -3- LJ CV-5, CV-7; moxa Bl-22

> > -4- Calm Ki-3

> >

> > III. Deficient Innate Kidney Yang

> >

> > 1. Tonify Ki Yang CV-4, GV-4

> > 2. Circulate Heat in Cells

> > -1- CV (1) Sp/St CV-12, CV-13,

> > CV-10

> > (2) Wei LJ CV-5, CV-7

> > -2- Chong Mai Ki-11, Ki-12, Sp-4, XB-6

> > 3. Nasal Curious Points for St & Sp and sometimes

> > Li/Ki

> >

> > IV. Local Treatment for Obesity

> >

> > 1. Internal Path of the Spleen: Needle with long

> > needle

> > from a point 3 cun lateral to CV-3 toward Sp-16,

> > angled low to high and medial to lateral into the

> > dermis layer. Length of needle depends on the severity

> > of the obesity.

> > Electrostimulate dispersion 20-30 minutes.

> >

> > 2. Needle Thigh: GB-30 ï¿½ï¿½ GB-31 in the dermis

> > layer. Thread and electrostimulate dispersion.

> > (He means moxa on all shu points in this)

> >

> > Send instant messages to your online friends

> http://uk.messenger.

>

January 3, 2007

A couple of thoughts about your weight loss protocol. Though I thoroughly agree

that reducing carbs and increasing protein is indicated, I notice a conspicuous

absence of Essential fatty acids in the diet, and I am concerned about such a

large intake of water, and the diuretics in her protocol depleting the body of

electrolytes through increased urination, and adding more stress to the already

compromised spleen. EFA's induce a sense of well being, and paradoxically speed

up metabolism. I am also concerned about the fruits (shouldn't be eaten except

AM and definitely away from anything else), and vegetables (should be cooked,

not raw). Lastly, I didn't notice anything about exercise. Please forgive me

for being so critical, as I have learned much from others I believe it is

important to share my findings as well.

Sincerely,

Yehuda

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