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Hi all,

 

Interesting idea.

 

I've looked at the mediawiki website. The software is free, I've just

downloaded it. It uses php and mysql which are database languages. I

use these to run the Times online journal.

 

Installing and setting it up isn't a problem as such. It's the long

term time of moderating the changes, which with open access globally,

are likely to come in thick and fast. You'll have to have a good

knowledge and plenty of reference books to check all the info entered

as TCM is a vast and largely untranslated subject. It will therefore

take a team of committed moderators to run it.

 

Otherwise, the setup costs are relatively low. If it takes off

however, it's going to eat up alot of server space and all this costs

money. It will need to find funding from somewhere, either by

donation.

 

If it could be self supporting financially, I may be in a position to

provide the server space and have it installed, but I'm already very

busy to moderate the info being entered. Any ideas anyone?

 

Attilio

www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

 

Chinese Medicine , " "

<johnkokko wrote:

>

> The software program used for wikipedia is called mediawiki:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki

>

> My friend, a computer nerd from Berkeley told me about it and said

that we

> could put this together

> for Oriental Medicine. Supposedly, it doesn't take too much skill

to put it

> together, just money to download the software package and a healthy

computer

> nerd to make it happen.

>

> Right now, there are alot of acusites with info, such as

> tcmstudent.com, acupuncture.com, sacredlotus.com etc.

> It would be a big benefit to the practice to have a meta-database

available.

>

>

> On 12/20/06, Tom Verhaeghe <tom.verhaeghe wrote:

> >

> > A Belgian acupuncturist and teacher (Peter Jonckheere) has been

working

> > for

> > some time on his " acupedia " - exactly like what Chris described.

It is not

> > online yet but will be circulcating amongst Belgian

acupuncturists this

> > year

> >

> > Information about acupuncture points will be sent out to

interested

> > acupuncturists, and they can add comments to the files. Later the

> > information will probably be hosted online. It's in Dutch for now.

> >

> > Tom.

> >

> >

> > ----

> >

> >

> > 20/12/2006 20:11:37

> > To:

Chinese Medicine <Traditional_Chinese_Medic

ine%40>

> > Re: Re: H2O2--correction! not Hydrochloric acid,

Hydrogen

> > peroxide!

> >

> > A great idea, I suggested something like this years ago for

Western

> > herbs and supplements, but we didn't have the internet tools we

have

> > today. We should definitely go for it. .

> >

> >

> > On Dec 20, 2006, at 12:06 AM, wrote:

> >

> > > BTW -- we could use some kind of " wiki " internet function, i.e.

a

> > > data collection and organizational / retrieval system based on

user

> > > input and some sort of peer-review (as opposed to dictums from

> > > " experts " ). That's what " wikipedia " is. E.g. there're entries

on CM,

> > > which I have gone in and amended. Others can amend those

changes. And

> > > then there's a sort of monitored referee system. Or, e.g., an

> > > organization permitting alternative opionions / interpretations.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Attilio, I have an acu-friend who may be interested in assisting, possibly

co-moderating.

How much money per year would you estimate to keep the engine humming?

 

 

 

On 12/21/06, <attiliodalberto wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> Interesting idea.

>

> I've looked at the mediawiki website. The software is free, I've just

> downloaded it. It uses php and mysql which are database languages. I

> use these to run the Times online journal.

>

> Installing and setting it up isn't a problem as such. It's the long

> term time of moderating the changes, which with open access globally,

> are likely to come in thick and fast. You'll have to have a good

> knowledge and plenty of reference books to check all the info entered

> as TCM is a vast and largely untranslated subject. It will therefore

> take a team of committed moderators to run it.

>

> Otherwise, the setup costs are relatively low. If it takes off

> however, it's going to eat up alot of server space and all this costs

> money. It will need to find funding from somewhere, either by

> donation.

>

> If it could be self supporting financially, I may be in a position to

> provide the server space and have it installed, but I'm already very

> busy to moderate the info being entered. Any ideas anyone?

>

> Attilio

> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

>

> --- In

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> " "

> <johnkokko wrote:

> >

> > The software program used for wikipedia is called mediawiki:

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki

> >

> > My friend, a computer nerd from Berkeley told me about it and said

> that we

> > could put this together

> > for Oriental Medicine. Supposedly, it doesn't take too much skill

> to put it

> > together, just money to download the software package and a healthy

> computer

> > nerd to make it happen.

> >

> > Right now, there are alot of acusites with info, such as

> > tcmstudent.com, acupuncture.com, sacredlotus.com etc.

> > It would be a big benefit to the practice to have a meta-database

> available.

> >

> >

> > On 12/20/06, Tom Verhaeghe <tom.verhaeghe wrote:

> > >

> > > A Belgian acupuncturist and teacher (Peter Jonckheere) has been

> working

> > > for

> > > some time on his " acupedia " - exactly like what Chris described.

> It is not

> > > online yet but will be circulcating amongst Belgian

> acupuncturists this

> > > year

> > >

> > > Information about acupuncture points will be sent out to

> interested

> > > acupuncturists, and they can add comments to the files. Later the

> > > information will probably be hosted online. It's in Dutch for now.

> > >

> > > Tom.

> > >

> > >

> > > ----

> > >

> > >

> > > 20/12/2006 20:11:37

> > > To:

>

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>

> <Traditional_Chinese_Medic

> ine%40>

> > > Re: Re: H2O2--correction! not Hydrochloric acid,

> Hydrogen

> > > peroxide!

> > >

> > > A great idea, I suggested something like this years ago for

> Western

> > > herbs and supplements, but we didn't have the internet tools we

> have

> > > today. We should definitely go for it. .

> > >

> > >

> > > On Dec 20, 2006, at 12:06 AM, wrote:

> > >

> > > > BTW -- we could use some kind of " wiki " internet function, i.e.

> a

> > > > data collection and organizational / retrieval system based on

> user

> > > > input and some sort of peer-review (as opposed to dictums from

> > > > " experts " ). That's what " wikipedia " is. E.g. there're entries

> on CM,

> > > > which I have gone in and amended. Others can amend those

> changes. And

> > > > then there's a sort of monitored referee system. Or, e.g., an

> > > > organization permitting alternative opionions / interpretations.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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--- <attiliodalberto

wrote:

 

> If it could be self supporting financially, I may be

> in a position to

> provide the server space and have it installed, but

> I'm already very

> busy to moderate the info being entered. Any ideas

> anyone?

 

I'm open to moderate and take on some other tasks.

Hugo

 

 

 

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Have you considered contacting any of the schools to see if the students would

like to get involved?Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

: johnkokko:

Thu, 21 Dec 2006 05:40:37 -0800Re: A TCMpedia website - MediaWiki

 

 

 

 

Attilio, I have an acu-friend who may be interested in assisting,

possiblyco-moderating.How much money per year would you estimate to keep the

engine humming?On 12/21/06, <attiliodalberto

wrote:>> Hi all,>> Interesting idea.>> I've looked at the mediawiki website. The

software is free, I've just> downloaded it. It uses php and mysql which are

database languages. I> use these to run the Times online

journal.>> Installing and setting it up isn't a problem as such. It's the long>

term time of moderating the changes, which with open access globally,> are

likely to come in thick and fast. You'll have to have a good> knowledge and

plenty of reference books to check all the info entered> as TCM is a vast and

largely untranslated subject. It will therefore> take a team of committed

moderators to run it.>> Otherwise, the setup costs are relatively low. If it

takes off> however, it's going to eat up alot of server space and all this

costs> money. It will need to find funding from somewhere, either by> donation

 

>> If it could be self supporting

financially, I may be in a position to> provide the server space and have it

installed, but I'm already very> busy to moderate the info being entered. Any

ideas anyone?>> Attilio> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com>> --- In

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,> " " > <johnkokko wrote:> >> > The software program

used for wikipedia is called mediawiki:> >> >

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki> >> > My friend, a computer nerd from

Berkeley told me about it and said> that we> > could put this together> > for

Oriental Medicine. Supposedly, it doesn't take too much skill> to put it> >

together, just money to download the software package and a healthy> computer> >

nerd to make it happen.> >> > Right now, there are alot of acusites with info,

such as> > tcmstudent.com, acupuncture.com, sacredlotus.com etc.> > It would be

a big benefit to the practice to have a meta-database> available.> >> >> > On

12/20/06, Tom Verhaeghe <tom.verhaeghe wrote:> > >> > > A Belgian

acupuncturist and teacher (Peter Jonckheere) has been> working> > > for> > >

some time on his " acupedia " - exactly like what Chris described.> It is not> > >

online yet but will be circulcating amongst Belgian> acupuncturists this> > >

year> > >> > > Information about acupuncture points will be sent out to>

interested> > > acupuncturists, and they can add comments to the files. Later

the> > > information will probably be hosted online. It's in Dutch for now.> >

>> > > Tom.> > >> > >> > > ----> > >> > > Z'ev

Rosenberg> > > 20/12/2006 20:11:37> > > To:>

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>> <Traditional_Chinese_Medic> ine%40>> > > Subject:

Re: Re: H2O2--correction! not Hydrochloric acid,> Hydrogen> > > peroxide!>

> >> > > A great idea, I suggested something like this years ago for> Western> >

> herbs and supplements, but we didn't have the internet tools we> have> > >

today. We should definitely go for it. .> > >> > > > > > On Dec

20, 2006, at 12:06 AM, wrote:> > >> > > > BTW -- we could use some

kind of " wiki " internet function, i.e.> a> > > > data collection and

organizational / retrieval system based on> user> > > > input and some sort of

peer-review (as opposed to dictums from> > > > " experts " ). That's what

" wikipedia " is. E.g. there're entries> on CM,> > > > which I have gone in and

amended. Others can amend those> changes. And> > > > then there's a sort of

monitored referee system. Or, e.g., an> > > > organization permitting

alternative opionions / interpretations.> > > >> > > > > > >> > >

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John,

 

Thanks for the info.

 

The initial start up costs would be the cost of the domain,

installation costs and server costs. The running costs really depends

on how successful it is, the more data in it, the more space it takes

and bandwidth used. The first year costs including initial start up

costs would roughly be around £400 ($800). That's without the web

design costs which i could avoid by doing it myself. It's alot of

work for no real return except for the good of the TCM community.

I'll have to seriously think if i have the time and money to take it

on.

 

Attilio

www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

 

Chinese Medicine , " "

<johnkokko wrote:

>

> Attilio, I have an acu-friend who may be interested in assisting,

possibly

> co-moderating.

> How much money per year would you estimate to keep the engine

humming?

>

>

>

> On 12/21/06, <attiliodalberto wrote:

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Interesting idea.

> >

> > I've looked at the mediawiki website. The software is free, I've

just

> > downloaded it. It uses php and mysql which are database

languages. I

> > use these to run the Times online journal.

> >

> > Installing and setting it up isn't a problem as such. It's the

long

> > term time of moderating the changes, which with open access

globally,

> > are likely to come in thick and fast. You'll have to have a good

> > knowledge and plenty of reference books to check all the info

entered

> > as TCM is a vast and largely untranslated subject. It will

therefore

> > take a team of committed moderators to run it.

> >

> > Otherwise, the setup costs are relatively low. If it takes off

> > however, it's going to eat up alot of server space and all this

costs

> > money. It will need to find funding from somewhere, either by

> > donation

 

> > If it could be self supporting financially, I may be in a

position to

> > provide the server space and have it installed, but I'm already

very

> > busy to moderate the info being entered. Any ideas anyone?

> >

> > Attilio

> > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

> >

> > --- In

Chinese Medicine <Traditional_Chinese_Medic

ine%40>,

> > " "

> > <johnkokko@> wrote:

> > >

> > > The software program used for wikipedia is called mediawiki:

> > >

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki

> > >

> > > My friend, a computer nerd from Berkeley told me about it and

said

> > that we

> > > could put this together

> > > for Oriental Medicine. Supposedly, it doesn't take too much

skill

> > to put it

> > > together, just money to download the software package and a

healthy

> > computer

> > > nerd to make it happen.

> > >

> > > Right now, there are alot of acusites with info, such as

> > > tcmstudent.com, acupuncture.com, sacredlotus.com etc.

> > > It would be a big benefit to the practice to have a meta-

database

> > available.

> > >

> > >

> > > On 12/20/06, Tom Verhaeghe <tom.verhaeghe@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > A Belgian acupuncturist and teacher (Peter Jonckheere) has

been

> > working

> > > > for

> > > > some time on his " acupedia " - exactly like what Chris

described.

> > It is not

> > > > online yet but will be circulcating amongst Belgian

> > acupuncturists this

> > > > year

> > > >

> > > > Information about acupuncture points will be sent out to

> > interested

> > > > acupuncturists, and they can add comments to the files. Later

the

> > > > information will probably be hosted online. It's in Dutch for

now.

> > > >

> > > > Tom.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 20/12/2006 20:11:37

> > > > To:

> >

Chinese Medicine <Traditional_Chinese_Medic

ine%40>

> > <Traditional_Chinese_Medic

> > ine%40>

> > > > Re: Re: H2O2--correction! not Hydrochloric

acid,

> > Hydrogen

> > > > peroxide!

> > > >

> > > > A great idea, I suggested something like this years ago for

> > Western

> > > > herbs and supplements, but we didn't have the internet tools

we

> > have

> > > > today. We should definitely go for it. .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Dec 20, 2006, at 12:06 AM, wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > BTW -- we could use some kind of " wiki " internet function,

i.e.

> > a

> > > > > data collection and organizational / retrieval system based

on

> > user

> > > > > input and some sort of peer-review (as opposed to dictums

from

> > > > > " experts " ). That's what " wikipedia " is. E.g. there're

entries

> > on CM,

> > > > > which I have gone in and amended. Others can amend those

> > changes. And

> > > > > then there's a sort of monitored referee system. Or, e.g.,

an

> > > > > organization permitting alternative opionions /

interpretations.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hello, I am new to the group. My name is David Botton, I am a student

of TCM in Florida and new to the list. I am also a software engineer

and have a number of web servers.

 

I am willing to host the server, do the technical work and cover the

basic costs. I also have a considerable amount of personal TCM

content I can place on the wiki to start it off from a site I have

maintained with my notes for the last two years (mostly acupuncture,

but also some herbs and bio medicine).

 

If there is no objection, I can have the basic site ready by this

coming week and can start loading my content in. Which I would hope

that others would review and change, the point of a wiki.

 

The site would likely need some graphic work, would Attilio consider

this as you mentioned?

 

Moderation is something that comes in time, for example most of

wikipedia is not moderated only certain abused topics are locked

down. The idea though is that every change is logged and can be

reversed and tracked. If moderation becomes needed discussion on this

list I am sure would produce willing candidates.

 

Please let me know if there is interest in my setting up the above

and I will take the next step.

 

David Botton

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Hi David, my name is Hugo, I am currently practicing

in Canada about 8 years. I am interested in helping

out any way I can, and I suppose at this point it

would mainly be editing. Let me know,

Hugo :)

 

--- David Botton <david wrote:

 

 

> I am willing to host the server, do the technical

> work and cover the

> basic costs. I also have a considerable amount of

> personal TCM

> content I can place on the wiki to start it off from

> a site I have

> maintained with my notes for the last two years

> (mostly acupuncture,

> but also some herbs and bio medicine).

>

> If there is no objection, I can have the basic site

> ready by this

> coming week and can start loading my content in.

> Which I would hope

> that others would review and change, the point of a

> wiki.

>

> The site would likely need some graphic work, would

> Attilio consider

> this as you mentioned?

>

> Moderation is something that comes in time, for

> example most of

> wikipedia is not moderated only certain abused

> topics are locked

> down. The idea though is that every change is logged

> and can be

> reversed and tracked. If moderation becomes needed

> discussion on this

> list I am sure would produce willing candidates.

>

> Please let me know if there is interest in my

> setting up the above

> and I will take the next step.

>

> David Botton

>

>

 

 

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Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:38:12 –0500 David Botton <david wrote:

>>…, I am a student of TCM… I also have a considerable amount of

personal TCM content I can place on the wiki to start it off from a

site I have maintained with my notes for the last two years…

 

I believe some sort of wiki implementation could be a great value to

students, who often spend a lot of time collectively compiling and

comparing learning and memorization techniques and data. Witness the

wealth of study guide and exam-cram publications.

 

This context and need is, however, distinctly different than others

which are more useful later, after we've paid the dues of the basic

dogmatic training phase. Some are interested in clinical refinements,

special cases, exploring additional traditional perspectives. Others

observe how theory gets challenged, refined, fleshed-out with longer

experience and further study less conditioned by curriculum and

entrance exam constraints. Others still different perspectives.

 

and, Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:37:31 -0000 " "

< wrote:

 

>>(a) CORE DATA FILES: Responsibility for CORE DATA must lie with a

SPECIFIC TEAM of experts in the field (Moderators)….

 

The Chinese have spent 50+ years doing this. Not to mention Wiseman et

al, G. Maciocia, B. Flaws, etc. Experienced practitioners have most of

what they need in their heads, needing occasional referential lookups

or fresh stimulus. Who will become, who will select the SPECIFIC TEAM?

How will their focus, bias be determined?

 

>> This List has people with huge amounts of stored (digital) data on

AP / TCM herbs. If those of us with such data (whether edited fully to

our satisfaction or not) could agree to send the data to the

Moderator(s), they could work through the data to construct CORE DATA

which could be expanded / updated later.

 

As above, for students this would definitely be interesting. But

heaven forbid we try to merge and edit everyone's (or more than a few)

personally accumulated data. So to speak, dumping our respective

damp-heat accumulations into some collective DaiMai vat, and

challenging the foot-shao-yang/Gall Bladder into deciding amongst it

all and resolving it all. I can envision the result as the mother of

all daimai stagnations!

 

>>(b) COMMENTARY FILES

 

This is closer to what I sense as the core process. The very idea of

the CORE DATA, a digital replay of the pooling and filtering as has

been going in the same circles from the Ming dynasty through TCM, is

in effect nothing more than commentary, interpretation of the wealth

of directions and hints in the Han-to-Song classics, oral teachings,

case-studies and other forms of accumulated experience.

 

All the emphasis on credentials and " status " , registration, PINs,

together with the Specific Team – you're not talking about a wiki

here. (Read the History material at Wikipedia, and David Botton's

colorful but basically accurate characterization (Fri, 22 Dec 2006

13:52:36 –0000)) Rather something between the Medicare/NPI system and

Homeland Security. BTW, perhaps we could just use our NPI numbers here

and save having to remember yet another username/password.

 

Or perhaps Phil's exposition is meant a little tongue-in-cheek?

 

One strong aspect of wiki (as exemplified by Wikipedia) is the wealth

of linkages, within and to without the database itself. A CORE data

could be created by an externally referential network alone, that is,

to exemplary versions and fragments that already exist. And by

exemplary I mean including alternative interpretations. Trying to

authoritatively redefine and recompile the whole shebang would, again,

be like trying to reincarnate the spirit and labors of the CCP's

Ministery of Health, Science and Technology Press, et al.

 

There's a wealth, perhaps a morass of data out there. To be yet forged

are clever tools for creating and exploring live threads of

association and reference, to feed new insights or prospective

solutions, perspectives.

 

For instance, I could see useful a mechanism to encapsulate

references, e.g. to book, page, paragraph, sentence from, say Volker

Scheid's book, or Unschuld, or Hammer (to use examples I cited in the

previous message to this forum). One could fashion a thought thread

with some key ideas (connective tissue, so to speak) and such linkages

to form a commentary. A reader could interactively run though selected

links, creating his/her own thread, or perhaps invoke a function to

assemble the connective skeleton and the narratively embedded links

into a prose document. Maybe even publishable documents… but ah then

the intellectual property issues.

 

Undoubtedly more to follow… fascinating thread

 

 

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Certainly that would be appreciated so would considering to write articles, case

studies,

personal experiences, etc.

 

Feel free to add content already.

 

Wiki's take some getting used to. When you click a link that has no content, you

will have

the opportunity to create that page. If you want to add a new page, you edit a

page an add

a link to the new page like this:

 

[[My new page]]

 

Save that page then click on your new link to create the new page for it.

 

David Botton

 

 

Chinese Medicine , Hugo Ramiro <subincor

wrote:

>

> Hi David, my name is Hugo, I am currently practicing

> in Canada about 8 years. I am interested in helping

> out any way I can, and I suppose at this point it

> would mainly be editing. Let me know,

> Hugo :)

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Given the size of the TCM pond, a wiki lilly is exactly the sort of thing

needed.

 

It creates a dynamic forum that allows for content to spread in directions that

a more rigid

medium of collaboration would never allow and is " self " correcting for the

fundamentals in

that every idea is scrutinized by many eyes from many schools.

 

David Botton

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " chris_macie " <

wrote:

>

> Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:38:12 –0500 David Botton <david wrote:

> >>…, I am a student of TCM… I also have a considerable amount of

> personal TCM content I can place on the wiki to start it off from a

> site I have maintained with my notes for the last two years…

>

> I believe some sort of wiki implementation could be a great value to

> students, who often spend a lot of time collectively compiling and

> comparing learning and memorization techniques and data. Witness the

> wealth of study guide and exam-cram publications.

>

> This context and need is, however, distinctly different than others

> which are more useful later, after we've paid the dues of the basic

> dogmatic training phase. Some are interested in clinical refinements,

> special cases, exploring additional traditional perspectives. Others

> observe how theory gets challenged, refined, fleshed-out with longer

> experience and further study less conditioned by curriculum and

> entrance exam constraints. Others still different perspectives.

>

> and, Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:37:31 -0000 " "

> < wrote:

>

> >>(a) CORE DATA FILES: Responsibility for CORE DATA must lie with a

> SPECIFIC TEAM of experts in the field (Moderators)….

>

> The Chinese have spent 50+ years doing this. Not to mention Wiseman et

> al, G. Maciocia, B. Flaws, etc. Experienced practitioners have most of

> what they need in their heads, needing occasional referential lookups

> or fresh stimulus. Who will become, who will select the SPECIFIC TEAM?

> How will their focus, bias be determined?

>

> >> This List has people with huge amounts of stored (digital) data on

> AP / TCM herbs. If those of us with such data (whether edited fully to

> our satisfaction or not) could agree to send the data to the

> Moderator(s), they could work through the data to construct CORE DATA

> which could be expanded / updated later.

>

> As above, for students this would definitely be interesting. But

> heaven forbid we try to merge and edit everyone's (or more than a few)

> personally accumulated data. So to speak, dumping our respective

> damp-heat accumulations into some collective DaiMai vat, and

> challenging the foot-shao-yang/Gall Bladder into deciding amongst it

> all and resolving it all. I can envision the result as the mother of

> all daimai stagnations!

>

> >>(b) COMMENTARY FILES

>

> This is closer to what I sense as the core process. The very idea of

> the CORE DATA, a digital replay of the pooling and filtering as has

> been going in the same circles from the Ming dynasty through TCM, is

> in effect nothing more than commentary, interpretation of the wealth

> of directions and hints in the Han-to-Song classics, oral teachings,

> case-studies and other forms of accumulated experience.

>

> All the emphasis on credentials and " status " , registration, PINs,

> together with the Specific Team – you're not talking about a wiki

> here. (Read the History material at Wikipedia, and David Botton's

> colorful but basically accurate characterization (Fri, 22 Dec 2006

> 13:52:36 –0000)) Rather something between the Medicare/NPI system and

> Homeland Security. BTW, perhaps we could just use our NPI numbers here

> and save having to remember yet another username/password.

>

> Or perhaps Phil's exposition is meant a little tongue-in-cheek?

>

> One strong aspect of wiki (as exemplified by Wikipedia) is the wealth

> of linkages, within and to without the database itself. A CORE data

> could be created by an externally referential network alone, that is,

> to exemplary versions and fragments that already exist. And by

> exemplary I mean including alternative interpretations. Trying to

> authoritatively redefine and recompile the whole shebang would, again,

> be like trying to reincarnate the spirit and labors of the CCP's

> Ministery of Health, Science and Technology Press, et al.

>

> There's a wealth, perhaps a morass of data out there. To be yet forged

> are clever tools for creating and exploring live threads of

> association and reference, to feed new insights or prospective

> solutions, perspectives.

>

> For instance, I could see useful a mechanism to encapsulate

> references, e.g. to book, page, paragraph, sentence from, say Volker

> Scheid's book, or Unschuld, or Hammer (to use examples I cited in the

> previous message to this forum). One could fashion a thought thread

> with some key ideas (connective tissue, so to speak) and such linkages

> to form a commentary. A reader could interactively run though selected

> links, creating his/her own thread, or perhaps invoke a function to

> assemble the connective skeleton and the narratively embedded links

> into a prose document. Maybe even publishable documents… but ah then

> the intellectual property issues.

>

> Undoubtedly more to follow… fascinating thread

>

>

>

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On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:11, chris_macie wrote:

 

Hi Chris!

 

Does he have the wiki up now, or is he just speculating about it? If it is up,

have you a link? Thanks.

 

 

> Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:38:12 –0500 David Botton <david wrote:

> >>…, I am a student of TCM… I also have a considerable amount of

>

> personal TCM content I can place on the wiki to start it off from a

> site I have maintained with my notes for the last two years…

>

> I believe some sort of wiki implementation could be a great value to

> students, who often spend a lot of time collectively compiling and

> comparing learning and memorization techniques and data. Witness the

> wealth of study guide and exam-cram publications.

 

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Regards,

 

Pete

http://www.pete-theisen.com/

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