Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Hi Pete > I also have heard that [GV26 is good point for pain]. I have used it > occasionally, and the patient never seemed to mind! Usually for some > indication other than pain, however. Regards, Pete See review of GV26 actions at http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/gv26.htm and Dr. Jan Still's valuable criticism of that review at http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/still.html PAIN is a definite indication for its use. Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 On Sunday 15 October 2006 16:35, wrote: Hi Dr. Phil! Wonderful papers, thanks. Regards, Pete > Hi Pete > > > I also have heard that [GV26 is good point for pain]. I have used it > > occasionally, and the patient never seemed to mind! Usually for some > > indication other than pain, however. Regards, Pete > > See review of GV26 actions at > http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/gv26.htm and Dr. Jan > Still's valuable criticism of that review at > http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/still.html > PAIN is a definite indication for its use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 This is a nice presentation, but as always i am skeptical when i read chinese studies due to overt positive results. It's really unfortunate as so much of the TCM research comes (of course) from there, and would be nice to actually know what was performed with honesty and what was not. Tymothy Chinese Medicine , Pete Theisen <petetheisen wrote: > > On Sunday 15 October 2006 16:35, wrote: > > Hi Dr. Phil! > > Wonderful papers, thanks. > > Regards, > > Pete > > > Hi Pete > > > > > I also have heard that [GV26 is good point for pain]. I have used it > > > occasionally, and the patient never seemed to mind! Usually for some > > > indication other than pain, however. Regards, Pete > > > > See review of GV26 actions at > > http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/gv26.htm and Dr. Jan > > Still's valuable criticism of that review at > > http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/still.html > > PAIN is a definite indication for its use. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Hi Tymothy & All, I wrote: > See review of GV26 actions at > http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/gv26.htm > and Dr.Jan Still's valuable criticism of that review at > http://users.med.auth.gr/~karanik/english/articles/still.html > PAIN is a definite indication for its use. Tymothy wrote: > This is a nice presentation, but as always i am skeptical when i read > chinese studies due to overt positive results. It's really unfortunate > as so much of the TCM research comes (of course) from there, and would > be nice to actually know what was performed with honesty and what was not. > Tymothy Scepticism and searching for truth are admirable traits. Whan a sceptic sees excellent results of a treatment that he/she doubted before that, he/she may try it then. GV26 (especially when combined with " Tip of Tail " point) gives me rapid and effective pain relief in most horses with bilateral spinal pain. Those of you who have not tried it might check it out and feedback your experience of it. NOTE: It is not easy to needle GV26 in horses! You must have a very sharp needle (I use 20-gauge, 70mm Terumo needles). If the horse is fresh or dangerous, use a chiffney bit. Have the handler stand on the near (left) side of the horse, with a firm hold on the lead-rope/chain. Stand on the right side of the horse's head/neck. and hold its upper lip tightly in a ring formed by the index and thumb of your LEFT hand. Handler and acupuncturist should be " out of the line of fire " if the horse strikes forward with a forefoot, or rears up. Insert the needle deep into GV26 with the RIGHT hand in one very fast and powerful thrust. Leave the needle in situ for 1-2 minutes. Remove it with one quick movement. Problems: (1) You may skewer your index or thumb if you are inexperienced with the technique. [i did so several times when I was learning the method!) (2) You (or the handler) may get kicked if the horse strikes out or rears. (3) If you miss (fail to insert the needle) first time, you may not get a second try. Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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