Gangmeigen (Ilex asprella Rx)

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Hi David,

 

David Toone wrote:

> ... Gan Mei Gen is listed in Chen as Wan Dian Jin under the regulate

> Qi function. However, he lists a dose of 3 - 15 grams. Looking at the

> percentages found in some of the Gan Mao Ling Patent formulas the 15 -

> 20 or 30 seem more inline.

 

David, my notes from WWW (including some Chinese sites) do not agree

with that:

 

Pinyin Name: Gangmeigen

 

AKA: Gangmei; Baidiancheng; Baijie; Chengxingshu; Chenxingxichai;

Dianchenggen; Dianchenxing; Hongjuncao; Shangancao; Shanmeigen;

Tianxinggen; Wandianjin

 

Latin name: Ilex Rx/Rz; Rx/Rz Ilicis asprellae

 

English name: Ilex Rx; Roughhaired Holly Rx

 

Hb Class: Clear Heat; Resolve Toxin

 

Nature: Bitter; Sweet / Sweet~slightly; Cold / Cool

 

Channels: HT; LU; KI

 

Dose: As Dec: 15-30g; sometimes 30-60g

 

Actions: (1) Clear Heat; Resolve Toxin, Build Fluids; Aid Throat;

Antipharyngitic; Antiinfectious; Antiviral**; (2) Quicken Xue; Resolve Xue

Stas/Stag; Ease Pain

 

Uses: (1) Ganmao (Common Colds) w fever & thirst, pharynx & larynx

swelling & pain; Ganmao in Wind Heat, Summerheat, seasonal Febrile

Disease + fever, headache & thirst & pharyngitis, cough in LU Heat, etc;

Common Colds; Wind Heat Headache; ?? (Fanzao ·³Ôï); Gonorrhoea

(Linbing), haemoptysis, pharyngitis, tonsillitis, Resolve Toxin~fungal toxins

/arsenic poisoning (w Jinyinhua, Fengweicao); (2) Arthralgia of Wind Damp

Heat type; angina pectoris; external trauma w Xue Stas /bleeding, swelling

& pain; sport injury; trauma w pain; Boost HT Xue Flow & HT muscle

contractility in guinea-pigs

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Phil,

 

Thanks for your kind response. Are you saying that Gan Mei Gen (Wan

Dian Jin) doesn't have a regulate as indicated in Chen's book? Or are

you disagreeing with the dosage. The dosage you cite seems more in

line with the herb's usage in Gan Mao Ling than Chen's dosage. I am

not questioning your authority, just trying to get a handle on how

this herb works.

 

Many thanks for your knowledge and willingness to share on this

somewhat illusive herb.

 

Sincerely,

 

David

On Oct 15, 2006, at 1:35 PM, wrote:

 

> Hi David,

>

> David Toone wrote:

> > ... Gan Mei Gen is listed in Chen as Wan Dian Jin under the regulate

> > Qi function. However, he lists a dose of 3 - 15 grams. Looking at

> the

> > percentages found in some of the Gan Mao Ling Patent formulas the

> 15 -

> > 20 or 30 seem more inline.

>

> David, my notes from WWW (including some Chinese sites) do not agree

> with that:

>

> Pinyin Name: Gangmeigen

>

> AKA: Gangmei; Baidiancheng; Baijie; Chengxingshu; Chenxingxichai;

> Dianchenggen; Dianchenxing; Hongjuncao; Shangancao; Shanmeigen;

> Tianxinggen; Wandianjin

>

> Latin name: Ilex Rx/Rz; Rx/Rz Ilicis asprellae

>

> English name: Ilex Rx; Roughhaired Holly Rx

>

> Hb Class: Clear Heat; Resolve Toxin

>

> Nature: Bitter; Sweet / Sweet~slightly; Cold / Cool

>

> Channels: HT; LU; KI

>

> Dose: As Dec: 15-30g; sometimes 30-60g

>

> Actions: (1) Clear Heat; Resolve Toxin, Build Fluids; Aid Throat;

> Antipharyngitic; Antiinfectious; Antiviral**; (2) Quicken Xue;

> Resolve Xue

> Stas/Stag; Ease Pain

>

> Uses: (1) Ganmao (Common Colds) w fever & thirst, pharynx & larynx

> swelling & pain; Ganmao in Wind Heat, Summerheat, seasonal Febrile

> Disease + fever, headache & thirst & pharyngitis, cough in LU Heat,

> etc;

> Common Colds; Wind Heat Headache; ?? (Fanzao ·³Ôï); Gonorrhoea

> (Linbing), haemoptysis, pharyngitis, tonsillitis, Resolve

> Toxin~fungal toxins

> /arsenic poisoning (w Jinyinhua, Fengweicao); (2) Arthralgia of

> Wind Damp

> Heat type; angina pectoris; external trauma w Xue Stas /bleeding,

> swelling

> & pain; sport injury; trauma w pain; Boost HT Xue Flow & HT muscle

> contractility in guinea-pigs

>

> Best regards,

>

>

>