Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Does anyone have experience treating ulcers that form on the cornea? The patient will only be able to take herbs, no acupuncutre right now. She wears contacts for the last 18 years and has recently had 2 ulcers on her cornea. Dr. said it was due to low oxygenation but new contacts that allow more O2 don't help. I think it is damp heat in LV/GB with some yin xu but I haven't been able to full asses her. I am thinking of Ming Mu or Qi Ju di Huang wan for long term and Long Dan Xie Gan Wan for acute symptoms but does anyone know of anything better or even a topical compress? Any input would be much appreciated! Thanks- Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 In February had this to say on the CHA group; he was initially talking about treating sinusitis: " A good alternative is coptis extract (copticlear) from Kan Herb company. It is a water/alcohol extract, you just need a few drops in warm water, then it can be used as a nasal douche, eye wash, or in the ears. I have great success with it. Sometimes I combine it with Kan's chrysanthemum extract for the eyes. " You could use an eyewash cup with the above solution. I think you can pick them up at most pharmacies. Sean _____ Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of jenleonard64 Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:21 AM Chinese Medicine Eye ulcers Does anyone have experience treating ulcers that form on the cornea? The patient will only be able to take herbs, no acupuncutre right now. She wears contacts for the last 18 years and has recently had 2 ulcers on her cornea. Dr. said it was due to low oxygenation but new contacts that allow more O2 don't help. I think it is damp heat in LV/GB with some yin xu but I haven't been able to full asses her. I am thinking of Ming Mu or Qi Ju di Huang wan for long term and Long Dan Xie Gan Wan for acute symptoms but does anyone know of anything better or even a topical compress? Any input would be much appreciated! Thanks- Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Jen & Sean, An approach that I have used for eye problems is a variation on Z'ev's suggestion: Make a concentrated decoction of Huang Lian, and boil it down to just an ounce. Then steep a regular tea bag in the decoction for a minute. Let cool, squeeze out the excess liquid (still moist though) and place the bag on the eye orbit for 15 minutes. The tannin in the tea has antibiotic, antiviral and antifungal properties and works synergistically with the Huang Lian to treat damp heat, if that is the pattern. BTW, the HL stains so make sure you don't let it drip. One other thing, In Chen & Chen's MM, a clinical study is listed with 121 out of 129 patients successfully treated for corneal ulcers (98 complete recovery, 22 moderate improvement). The formula decocted and used as a wash for topical application (soak a towel and apply) was: mi meng hua 15, Huang lian 15, zi cao gen15, mu zei 20, gu jing cao 20 and qin pi 20. Good luck, Yehuda Frischman, L.Ac, CST, SER www.traditionaljewishmedicine.com Sean Doherty <sean wrote: In February had this to say on the CHA group; he was initially talking about treating sinusitis: " A good alternative is coptis extract (copticlear) from Kan Herb company. It is a water/alcohol extract, you just need a few drops in warm water, then it can be used as a nasal douche, eye wash, or in the ears. I have great success with it. Sometimes I combine it with Kan's chrysanthemum extract for the eyes. " You could use an eyewash cup with the above solution. I think you can pick them up at most pharmacies. Sean _____ Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of jenleonard64 Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:21 AM Chinese Medicine Eye ulcers Does anyone have experience treating ulcers that form on the cornea? The patient will only be able to take herbs, no acupuncutre right now. She wears contacts for the last 18 years and has recently had 2 ulcers on her cornea. Dr. said it was due to low oxygenation but new contacts that allow more O2 don't help. I think it is damp heat in LV/GB with some yin xu but I haven't been able to full asses her. I am thinking of Ming Mu or Qi Ju di Huang wan for long term and Long Dan Xie Gan Wan for acute symptoms but does anyone know of anything better or even a topical compress? Any input would be much appreciated! Thanks- Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hi Jeannifer, When I was an intern, we had a patient in clinic with a damp heat cyst in the drainage duct between his inner canthus and nose. Not the same condition, but we had him use compresses of ju hua at home and it really helped. Good luck and let us know how it goes. Take care to evaluate whether the condition really is damp heat, or if it might be dryness. --- jenleonard64 <jleonard6 wrote: > Does anyone have experience treating ulcers that > form on the cornea? The patient will only > be able to take herbs, no acupuncutre right now. > She wears contacts for the last 18 years and has > recently had 2 ulcers on her cornea. Dr. said > it was due to low oxygenation but new contacts that > allow more O2 don't help. I think it is > damp heat in LV/GB with some yin xu but I haven't > been able to full asses her. > I am thinking of Ming Mu or Qi Ju di Huang wan for > long term and Long Dan Xie Gan Wan for > acute symptoms but does anyone know of anything > better or even a topical compress? Any > input would be much appreciated! Thanks- Jennifer > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Thanks Andrea. I will take that into consideration. B/c it is a long term problem, I am sure there are elements of dryness involved as well. I will start with the compress and go from there. Much appreciated- Jennifer Chinese Medicine , < wrote: > > Hi Jeannifer, > > When I was an intern, we had a patient in clinic with > a damp heat cyst in the drainage duct between his > inner canthus and nose. Not the same condition, but > we had him use compresses of ju hua at home and it > really helped. Good luck and let us know how it goes. > Take care to evaluate whether the condition really is > damp heat, or if it might be dryness. > > > > --- jenleonard64 <jleonard6 wrote: > > > Does anyone have experience treating ulcers that > > form on the cornea? The patient will only > > be able to take herbs, no acupuncutre right now. > > She wears contacts for the last 18 years and has > > recently had 2 ulcers on her cornea. Dr. said > > it was due to low oxygenation but new contacts that > > allow more O2 don't help. I think it is > > damp heat in LV/GB with some yin xu but I haven't > > been able to full asses her. > > I am thinking of Ming Mu or Qi Ju di Huang wan for > > long term and Long Dan Xie Gan Wan for > > acute symptoms but does anyone know of anything > > better or even a topical compress? Any > > input would be much appreciated! Thanks- Jennifer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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