1. article calls for pharmaceutical naming of Chinese herbs

July 30, 2006

Posted by: " Tom Verhaeghe " tom.verhaeghe verhaeghe_tom

Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:28 am (PDT)

Tom Verhaege is right, the chinese herbs need to be observed very

closely and named reliably. Other honorable commentators have

complained that chinese producers will substitute one herb, or one

part of an herb, for another one. I am sure we have sometimes

experienced this. However, we also need to watch the patent medicines

very carefully as well. I used one for a very long time and it

changed on me. The chinese grocer who I bought it from did not

explain that, and the wrapping deceived me. I was undeceived when I

got a litle sick from it. Now I must buy my patent medicine from a

TCM college, where ethics are a little more strongly enforced, and the

pharmacist knows enough chinese to know he is being cheated!

August 3, 2006

I remember buying " Curing pills " at chinatown (the red packaged

variety) and after taking them felt that they were not nearly as

effective only to look on the package to see that it was an imitator,

same package design, same name (though different font), and a modified

ingredient list. It was funny at the time, but does give pause for

consideration, and reminds me to buy only from herbal pharmacies that

are transparent.

Does anyone on list know why the " Curing pills " were renamed " Culing

pills " ? A fellow practitioner said it was the FDA's enforcement of a

law stating that a company can't claim a cure on their package, i'm

curious if that is indeed the case.

Tymothy

Chinese Medicine , " robb thurston "

<robb7thurston wrote:

>

> 1. article calls for pharmaceutical naming of Chinese herbs

> Posted by: " Tom Verhaeghe " tom.verhaeghe verhaeghe_tom

> Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:28 am (PDT)

>

> Tom Verhaege is right, the chinese herbs need to be observed very

> closely and named reliably. Other honorable commentators have

> complained that chinese producers will substitute one herb, or one

> part of an herb, for another one. I am sure we have sometimes

> experienced this. However, we also need to watch the patent medicines

> very carefully as well. I used one for a very long time and it

> changed on me. The chinese grocer who I bought it from did not

> explain that, and the wrapping deceived me. I was undeceived when I

> got a litle sick from it. Now I must buy my patent medicine from a

> TCM college, where ethics are a little more strongly enforced, and the

> pharmacist knows enough chinese to know he is being cheated!

>

August 3, 2006

The closes thing we can get to Curing Pills her in British Columbia now is Po

Chai. I can't remember the formula for Curing pills, but Po Chai doesn't seem to

be anywhere near as effective. Does anyone know what the difference is?

- Mark

Quoting miracles28 <jellyphish:

> I remember buying " Curing pills " at chinatown (the red packaged

> variety) and after taking them felt that they were not nearly as

> effective only to look on the package to see that it was an imitator,

> same package design, same name (though different font), and a modified

> ingredient list. It was funny at the time, but does give pause for

> consideration, and reminds me to buy only from herbal pharmacies that

> are transparent.

> Does anyone on list know why the " Curing pills " were renamed " Culing

> pills " ? A fellow practitioner said it was the FDA's enforcement of a

> law stating that a company can't claim a cure on their package, i'm

> curious if that is indeed the case.

> Tymothy

>

> Chinese Medicine , " robb thurston "

> <robb7thurston wrote:

> >

> > 1. article calls for pharmaceutical naming of Chinese herbs

> > Posted by: " Tom Verhaeghe " tom.verhaeghe verhaeghe_tom

> > Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:28 am (PDT)

> >

> > Tom Verhaege is right, the chinese herbs need to be observed very

> > closely and named reliably. Other honorable commentators have

> > complained that chinese producers will substitute one herb, or one

> > part of an herb, for another one. I am sure we have sometimes

> > experienced this. However, we also need to watch the patent medicines

> > very carefully as well. I used one for a very long time and it

> > changed on me. The chinese grocer who I bought it from did not

> > explain that, and the wrapping deceived me. I was undeceived when I

> > got a litle sick from it. Now I must buy my patent medicine from a

> > TCM college, where ethics are a little more strongly enforced, and the

> > pharmacist knows enough chinese to know he is being cheated!

> >

>

August 4, 2006

Hi Mark,

Here in Chinatown LA you can get both. The difference between the two

patents is that Curing (or Culing-same thing different illiterate

transliterator) is much more for summertime wind-cold-damp (BTW its chinese name

is Kang Ning Wan), whereas Po Chai, to the best of my recollection is a

modified version of Bao He wan with Chi Shi Zhi added to bind the intestines,

for food stagnation occuring concurrently with wind damp cold. Pretty similar

actually.

All the best,

Yehuda

mmilotay wrote:

The closes thing we can get to Curing Pills her in British Columbia

now is Po