Gu Zhi Shu Song exact standard formula ratios

[Guest guest]

Could anyone help me with this formula's ratios? I am unable to

locate this formula in any of my formula books.

 

Gu Zhi Shu Song

 

Concha Ostreae (Mu Li)

 

Fructus Psoraleae (Bi Gi Zhi)

 

Rhizoma Drynariae (Gu Sui Bu)

 

Cortex Eucommiae (Du Zhong)

 

Radix Dipsaci (Xu Duan)

 

Semen Cuscutae (Tu Si Zi)

 

Radix Rehmanniae Preparata (Shu Di Huang)

 

Radix Paeoniae Alba (Bai Shao)

 

Radix Salviae Miltorrihizae (Dan Shen)

 

Os Draconis (Long Gu)

 

Indications: Osteoporosis, tinnitis, dizziness, tonify Kidney

 

Any help would be appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Chinese Medicine , " baidanwu34 "

<bonmotSarah wrote:

>

> Could anyone help me with this formula's ratios? I am unable to

> locate this formula in any of my formula books.

>

> Gu Zhi Shu Song

>

Hi, gu zhi shu song is just the Chinese term for osteoporosis. It

might be a new formula?

 

Tom.

[Guest guest]

Chinese Medicine , " baidanwu34 "

<bonmotSarah wrote:

>

> Could anyone help me with this formula's ratios? I am unable to

> locate this formula in any of my formula books.

>

> Gu Zhi Shu Song

>

> Concha Ostreae (Mu Li)

>

> Fructus Psoraleae (Bi Gi Zhi)

>

> Rhizoma Drynariae (Gu Sui Bu)

>

> Cortex Eucommiae (Du Zhong)

>

> Radix Dipsaci (Xu Duan)

>

> Semen Cuscutae (Tu Si Zi)

>

> Radix Rehmanniae Preparata (Shu Di Huang)

>

> Radix Paeoniae Alba (Bai Shao)

>

> Radix Salviae Miltorrihizae (Dan Shen)

>

> Os Draconis (Long Gu)

>

> Indications: Osteoporosis, tinnitis, dizziness, tonify Kidney

>

> Any help would be appreciated.

>

 

 

Look up the individual herbs doses and use the ratios given ie. 6-9

grams and base the dosage on your patients needs.

 

Kelvin

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advice--I guess I just feel less nervous choosing

dosage ranges in herbal formulas when I have a standard formula from

which to start.

 

Sarah

 

Chinese Medicine ,

" acupuncturebeverlyhills " <acupuncturebeverlyhills wrote:

>

> Chinese Medicine , " baidanwu34 "

> <bonmotSarah@> wrote:

> >

> > Could anyone help me with this formula's ratios? I am unable to

> > locate this formula in any of my formula books.

> >

> > Gu Zhi Shu Song

> >

> > Concha Ostreae (Mu Li)

> >

> > Fructus Psoraleae (Bi Gi Zhi)

> >

> > Rhizoma Drynariae (Gu Sui Bu)

> >

> > Cortex Eucommiae (Du Zhong)

> >

> > Radix Dipsaci (Xu Duan)

> >

> > Semen Cuscutae (Tu Si Zi)

> >

> > Radix Rehmanniae Preparata (Shu Di Huang)

> >

> > Radix Paeoniae Alba (Bai Shao)

> >

> > Radix Salviae Miltorrihizae (Dan Shen)

> >

> > Os Draconis (Long Gu)

> >

> > Indications: Osteoporosis, tinnitis, dizziness, tonify Kidney

> >

> > Any help would be appreciated.

> >

>

>

> Look up the individual herbs doses and use the ratios given ie. 6-9

> grams and base the dosage on your patients needs.

>

> Kelvin

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tom, you may be right as I am having a tough time finding this

formula listed anywhere except as I found it on the internet with no

percentages or ratios listed.

 

Sarah

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<tom.verhaeghe wrote:

>

> Chinese Medicine , " baidanwu34 "

> <bonmotSarah@> wrote:

> >

> > Could anyone help me with this formula's ratios? I am unable to

> > locate this formula in any of my formula books.

> >

> > Gu Zhi Shu Song

> >

> Hi, gu zhi shu song is just the Chinese term for osteoporosis. It

> might be a new formula?

>

> Tom.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi baidanwu34 wrote:

 

> Could anyone help me with this formula's ratios? I am unable to

> locate this formula in any of my formula books... Gu Zhi Shu Song

 

I Googled in both pin-yin and Chinese (hanzi) but failed to get the

details.

 

Under the heading " Chinese Patent and Secret Herbal Remedies

Product Information " , http://tinyurl.com/rlqkf says that it is a patented

formula, included under: Herbal Doctor Remedies provides the following

130 formulas in tablet dosage form made by Guang Ci Tang-Krown Inc.

The cost is $ 25.00/200 tablets. The average adult dosage is 5 tablets 3

times a day before meals with a cup of warm water. (some tablets

needs to take after meals)

 

HD 126 Bone Matrix Booster (Gu Zhi Shu Song Wan)

 

Ingredients:

Concha Ostreae (Mu Li)

Fructus Psoraleae (Bu Gu Zhi)

Rhizoma Drynariae (Gu Sui Bu)

Cortex Eucommiae (Du Zhong)

Radix Dipsaci ( Xu Duan)

Semen Cuscutae (Tu Si Zi)

Radix Rehmanniae Preparata (Shu Di Huang)

Radix Paeoniae Alba (Bai Shao)

Radix Salviae Miltiorrhizae (Dan Shen)

Os Draconis (Long Gu)

 

Effects: It can replenish essence, tonify kidney and strengthen health qi

and bones. It is used to treat mental lassitude, flaccidity of the knees

and loin, dizziness, tinnitus and pain in the joints of the aged and

osteoporosis and injuries from falls, etc.

 

Usage:

1. Traumatic injury

2. Lumbago

3. Acute lumbar pain

4. Dizziness

5. Rheumatic arthritits 6. Prevent osteoporosis

 

I have no respect for " secret recipes " and western drug regulation

agencies will crucify us if they find out that we use them.

 

Best regards,

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Phil, for your help, especially with the hanzi search. I

already found the source you mention as well as the patent herbal

formula on several sites also sans ratios. I know of a Chinese

practitoner in my area who makes this formula into capsules. I do not

understand why a valid patent formula would raise the ire of Western

drug regulators, especially when dangerous Western pharmaceuticals are

going onto the marketplace all the time. I guess trying to figure out

the TCM formula on which this is based and then adding in the other

herbs as needed is the way to go. Probaby as suggested by someone

earlier this is one of the newer TCM formulas. Maybe the exact ratios

are easier to obtain with a knowledge of Chinese which allows one to

access Chinese websites--somehow I doubt Google can catch everything

on the Chinese sites.

 

Chinese Medicine , " "

< wrote:

>

> Hi baidanwu34 wrote:

>

> > Could anyone help me with this formula's ratios? I am unable to

> > locate this formula in any of my formula books... Gu Zhi Shu Song

>

> I Googled in both pin-yin and Chinese (hanzi) but failed to get the

> details.

>

> Under the heading " Chinese Patent and Secret Herbal Remedies

> Product Information " , http://tinyurl.com/rlqkf says that it is a

patented

> formula, included under: Herbal Doctor Remedies provides the following

> 130 formulas in tablet dosage form made by Guang Ci Tang-Krown Inc.

> The cost is $ 25.00/200 tablets. The average adult dosage is 5

tablets 3

> times a day before meals with a cup of warm water. (some tablets

> needs to take after meals)

>

> HD 126 Bone Matrix Booster (Gu Zhi Shu Song Wan)

>

> Ingredients:

> Concha Ostreae (Mu Li)

> Fructus Psoraleae (Bu Gu Zhi)

> Rhizoma Drynariae (Gu Sui Bu)

> Cortex Eucommiae (Du Zhong)

> Radix Dipsaci ( Xu Duan)

> Semen Cuscutae (Tu Si Zi)

> Radix Rehmanniae Preparata (Shu Di Huang)

> Radix Paeoniae Alba (Bai Shao)

> Radix Salviae Miltiorrhizae (Dan Shen)

> Os Draconis (Long Gu)

>

> Effects: It can replenish essence, tonify kidney and strengthen

health qi

> and bones. It is used to treat mental lassitude, flaccidity of the

knees

> and loin, dizziness, tinnitus and pain in the joints of the aged and

> osteoporosis and injuries from falls, etc.

>

> Usage:

> 1. Traumatic injury

> 2. Lumbago

> 3. Acute lumbar pain

> 4. Dizziness

> 5. Rheumatic arthritits 6. Prevent osteoporosis

>

> I have no respect for " secret recipes " and western drug regulation

> agencies will crucify us if they find out that we use them.

>

> Best regards,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi baidanwu34

 

baidanwu34 wrote:

> Probaby as suggested by someone earlier this is one of the newer TCM

> formulas. Maybe the exact ratios are easier to obtain with a knowledge

> of Chinese which allows one to access Chinese websites--somehow I doubt

> Google can catch everything on the Chinese sites.

 

On the contrary, Google searches WWW in most languages, including

Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Russian. Entering the appropriate

Hanzi characters in Google can yield huge numbers of hits from

Chinese pages.

 

Since I started to use Wenlin & NJStar Chinese-English software, I

have found many valuable TCM/Herbal data in Chinese. However,

because I cannot read Chinese, it can take me 2-3 hours to translate

one A4 page of Chinese script. Therefore, I only search for Chinese

data if I cannot find it in English, or an easy Euro language.

 

I found many Chinese pages on the Gu Zhi Shu Song formula, but none

of them listed the amounts of each herb in the formula. THAT is why I

would not support the manufacturer of the formula. As professionals,

we need to know what we are giving / recommending to our clients /

patients.

 

> I do not understand why a valid patent formula would raise the ire of

> Western drug regulators, especially when dangerous Western

> pharmaceuticals are going onto the marketplace all the time.

 

For drugs to be registered as medicines in western countries, the

regulation authorities insist on a dossier for each product that supplies

evidence for safety, efficacy and QC. The most fundamental data

needed relate to specification of the recommended dose and the

amount of active ingredient(s) per dose.

 

By definition, " secret formulas " cannot meet those requirements. It is

not enough to list the herbs in the formula; the amounts and the dose

must be stated also, and nothing other than the stated ingredients

should be present.

 

Unfortunately, FDA and EU authorities have seized several batches of

Chinese formulas that contained UNLISTED ingredients, including

added western drugs.

 

Manufacturers of Herbal Formulas who adulterate their products, or

falsify data on known ingredients bring down the image of herbal

medicine internationally, and cannot be supported by professionals,

IMO.

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I agree that adulteration of TCM herbals with Western medications is

wrong and is certainly far outside the parameters of TCM treatment. I

do feel that despite dossiers for Western drugs which claim safety for

them an inordinate amount of Western drugs are allowed to be sold

without enough testing, for either safety or efficacy. I have been

reading more and more about drugs which are not throughly tested and

then cause either death or serious organ failure and/or dysfunction.

I cannot help but deplore the double standard which all herbalism

(East or West) suffers as the barefoot woman of the medical world.

 

Thanks for your help with the Chinese searches--it is much appreciated

believe me.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sarah

 

Chinese Medicine , " "

< wrote:

>

> Hi baidanwu34

>

> baidanwu34 wrote:

> > Probaby as suggested by someone earlier this is one of the newer TCM

> > formulas. Maybe the exact ratios are easier to obtain with a knowledge

> > of Chinese which allows one to access Chinese websites--somehow I

doubt

> > Google can catch everything on the Chinese sites.

>

> On the contrary, Google searches WWW in most languages, including

> Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Russian. Entering the appropriate

> Hanzi characters in Google can yield huge numbers of hits from

> Chinese pages.

>

> Since I started to use Wenlin & NJStar Chinese-English software, I

> have found many valuable TCM/Herbal data in Chinese. However,

> because I cannot read Chinese, it can take me 2-3 hours to translate

> one A4 page of Chinese script. Therefore, I only search for Chinese

> data if I cannot find it in English, or an easy Euro language.

>

> I found many Chinese pages on the Gu Zhi Shu Song formula, but none

> of them listed the amounts of each herb in the formula. THAT is why I

> would not support the manufacturer of the formula. As professionals,

> we need to know what we are giving / recommending to our clients /

> patients

>

> > I do not understand why a valid patent formula would raise the ire of

> > Western drug regulators, especially when dangerous Western

> > pharmaceuticals are going onto the marketplace all the time.

>

> For drugs to be registered as medicines in western countries, the

> regulation authorities insist on a dossier for each product that

supplies

> evidence for safety, efficacy and QC. The most fundamental data

> needed relate to specification of the recommended dose and the

> amount of active ingredient(s) per dose.

>

> By definition, " secret formulas " cannot meet those requirements. It is

> not enough to list the herbs in the formula; the amounts and the dose

> must be stated also, and nothing other than the stated ingredients

> should be present.

>

> Unfortunately, FDA and EU authorities have seized several batches of

> Chinese formulas that contained UNLISTED ingredients, including

> added western drugs.

>

> Manufacturers of Herbal Formulas who adulterate their products, or

> falsify data on known ingredients bring down the image of herbal

> medicine internationally, and cannot be supported by professionals,

> IMO.

>

> Best regards,

>

>

>

>

>