protocol for detoxification from benzodiazapines

[Guest guest]

Speaking of getting off of SSRI's, could anyone share with me procotols for

getting off of long term addiction to benzodiazapines? (besides the obvious use

of NADA protocol and and Chai hu jia long gu mu li tang).

 

Yehuda

 

robb thurston <robb7thurston wrote:

Hi! I am a former employee of the staff of Emperor's College, in Santa

Monica, and am a friend of Drs. Dan Bensky and Volker Scheid. I keep in

touch with Seattle Institute of Oriental Medicine and Bastyr Universioty.

I have a lot of concern with S.S.R.I.s, their energetic (TCM) nature

and balancing their toxicity. Some while back I corresponded with Dr. Z'ev

Rosenberg, and he wrote the following article. In the article he discusses

an approach to Prozac from the perspective of energetic medicine.

 

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Drugs<http://www.acupuncture.com/herbs/pharma.htm>By

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in terms of their energetic properties. An herb that enters the lung

meridian *...*

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After I saw this article, I asked for Dr. Subuti Dharmananda's

comments, and he wrote the following article.

 

*SSRI Withdrawal Procedure: Getting Off Antidepressants May Be Made Easier*

The use of antidepressants has been steadily increasing since they were

first developed 50 years ago, with no end in sight. These drugs are not only

used for what might be considered a neurologically depressed mental state:

about half the

*... SSRI Withdrawal Procedure: Getting Off Antidepressants May Be Made

Easier ...*

http://www.itmonline.org/ arts/ ssri.htm

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Both these articles present observations which are extremely valuable,

and I do not find much more said on the subject. Please, if you have

contact with more information and observations on treatment of patients

undergoing S.S.R.I. therapy, and TCM, would you please contact me. I should

appreciate it a lot. Thank you for your help.

Please kindly write here:

robb7thurston

 

 

[Guest guest]

For benzos use a lot of yin points like kd 3, head points like si

shen cong, and heart calming points like shen men. 4 gates is good

too. Kd point in the ear is very good. Moxa under t7 then bl23

then bl52 to boost willpower. You could use yin boosting herbs

like mai wei di huang wan or the formula you mentioned is good too,

it depends on your prespective.

 

Chinese Medicine , yehuda

frischman < wrote:

>

> Speaking of getting off of SSRI's, could anyone share with me

procotols for getting off of long term addiction to

benzodiazapines? (besides the obvious use of NADA protocol and and

Chai hu jia long gu mu li tang).

>

> Yehuda

>

> robb thurston <robb7thurston wrote:

> Hi! I am a former employee of the staff of Emperor's

College, in Santa

> Monica, and am a friend of Drs. Dan Bensky and Volker Scheid. I

keep in

> touch with Seattle Institute of Oriental Medicine and Bastyr

Universioty.

> I have a lot of concern with S.S.R.I.s, their energetic (TCM)

nature

> and balancing their toxicity. Some while back I corresponded with

Dr. Z'ev

> Rosenberg, and he wrote the following article. In the article he

discusses

> an approach to Prozac from the perspective of energetic medicine.

>

> Acupuncture.Com - Herbal Remedies - Western

> Drugs<http://www.acupuncture.com/herbs/pharma.htm>By

> ** From Oriental Medicine Journal. Chinese herbs are

described

> in terms of their energetic properties. An herb that enters the

lung

> meridian *...*

> www.acupuncture.com/herbs/pharma.htm - 49k -

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> After I saw this article, I asked for Dr. Subuti Dharmananda's

> comments, and he wrote the following article.

>

> *SSRI Withdrawal Procedure: Getting Off Antidepressants May Be

Made Easier*

> The use of antidepressants has been steadily increasing since they

were

> first developed 50 years ago, with no end in sight. These drugs

are not only

> used for what might be considered a neurologically depressed

mental state:

> about half the

> *... SSRI Withdrawal Procedure: Getting Off Antidepressants May Be

Made

> Easier ...*

> http://www.itmonline.org/ arts/ ssri.htm

> <http://www.itmonline.org/arts/ssri.htm> - 27k

>

> Both these articles present observations which are extremely

valuable,

> and I do not find much more said on the subject. Please, if you

have

> contact with more information and observations on treatment of

patients

> undergoing S.S.R.I. therapy, and TCM, would you please contact me.

I should

> appreciate it a lot. Thank you for your help.

> Please kindly write here:

> robb7thurston

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chinese Medicine , " jasonwcom "

<jasonwcom wrote:

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention phlegm, all brain toxicity from drugs

whether ssris or benzos can be viewed as phlegm in the head. Good

herbs are yuan zhi and chang pu, or gui pi wan tonic for the spleen.

Treat the spleen to boost its transformation of phlegm, you can do

st40 sp3 source/luo or just do st40 and sp6, moxa sp shu...>

 

 

> For benzos use a lot of yin points like kd 3, head points like si

> shen cong, and heart calming points like shen men. 4 gates is good

> too. Kd point in the ear is very good. Moxa under t7 then bl23

> then bl52 to boost willpower. You could use yin boosting herbs

> like mai wei di huang wan or the formula you mentioned is good too,

> it depends on your prespective.

>

> Chinese Medicine , yehuda

> frischman <@> wrote:

> >

> > Speaking of getting off of SSRI's, could anyone share with me

> procotols for getting off of long term addiction to

> benzodiazapines? (besides the obvious use of NADA protocol and and

> Chai hu jia long gu mu li tang).

> >

> > Yehuda

> >

> > robb thurston <robb7thurston@> wrote:

> > Hi! I am a former employee of the staff of Emperor's

> College, in Santa

> > Monica, and am a friend of Drs. Dan Bensky and Volker Scheid. I

> keep in

> > touch with Seattle Institute of Oriental Medicine and Bastyr

> Universioty.

> > I have a lot of concern with S.S.R.I.s, their energetic (TCM)

> nature

> > and balancing their toxicity. Some while back I corresponded with

> Dr. Z'ev

> > Rosenberg, and he wrote the following article. In the article he

> discusses

> > an approach to Prozac from the perspective of energetic medicine.

> >

> > Acupuncture.Com - Herbal Remedies - Western

> > Drugs<http://www.acupuncture.com/herbs/pharma.htm>By

> > ** From Oriental Medicine Journal. Chinese herbs

are

> described

> > in terms of their energetic properties. An herb that enters the

> lung

> > meridian *...*

> > www.acupuncture.com/herbs/pharma.htm - 49k -

> > Cached<http://66.102.7.104/custom?

> q=cache:QqqfvPbZ46IJ:www.acupuncture.com/herbs/pharma.htm+%22%27+z%

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> >

> > After I saw this article, I asked for Dr. Subuti Dharmananda's

> > comments, and he wrote the following article.

> >

> > *SSRI Withdrawal Procedure: Getting Off Antidepressants May Be

> Made Easier*

> > The use of antidepressants has been steadily increasing since

they

> were

> > first developed 50 years ago, with no end in sight. These drugs

> are not only

> > used for what might be considered a neurologically depressed

> mental state:

> > about half the

> > *... SSRI Withdrawal Procedure: Getting Off Antidepressants May

Be

> Made

> > Easier ...*

> > http://www.itmonline.org/ arts/ ssri.htm

> > <http://www.itmonline.org/arts/ssri.htm> - 27k

> >

> > Both these articles present observations which are extremely

> valuable,

> > and I do not find much more said on the subject. Please, if you

> have

> > contact with more information and observations on treatment of

> patients

> > undergoing S.S.R.I. therapy, and TCM, would you please contact

me.

> I should

> > appreciate it a lot. Thank you for your help.

> > Please kindly write here:

> > robb7thurston@

> >

> >