Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 How does one needle points away from the wrist? Please describe. napadov <napadov wrote: the general idea was to not be too stimulating - hence the lower frequency and shorter duration (needles were retained for longer after EA). our protoocl was designed mainly by a senior acupuncturist (not me) who prefers gentle stimulation. Chronic pain, by the way, is certainly maintained in the brain. in many chronic pain conditions, the originating peripheral lesion is improved or even resolved, but the brain circuitry is wound-up in such a way that the perception of pain remains and is now maintained by brain circuitry... In CTS, the peripheral lesion is still probably there and is reflected by changed brain circuitry. perhaps if you can attack the brain hyperactivation (by needling points away from the wrist) it can indeed modify the severity of the originating lesion at the wrist by such things as autonomic anti-inflammatory reflexes etc... this remains to be seen... vitaly Chinese Medicine , " marianpblac " <chinesemed wrote: > > Vitaly, > > Is there a reason why you didn't use EA for longer than 10 minutes? > I usually use EA 20 mins, often with mixed hz-2to100 to get more > types of responses. > > I see the TCM rationale: P7 source point and TB5 luo point. > > Thanks for the further explanation. I wonder whether the peripheral > nerve impingement feeds back to the brain to, in effect, maintain or > exacerbate the perception of the impingement? Lots of interesting > hypotheses to explore ... if you're patient. > > Marian > > Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 The manual points were needled with perpendicular insertion and stimulated using a rotating and gentle lift and thrust technique to elicit a deqi response. vitaly Chinese Medicine , Steve Segal <stevsgl wrote: > > > How does one needle points away from the wrist? > > Please describe. > > > napadov <napadov wrote: > the general idea was to not be too stimulating - hence the lower > frequency and shorter duration (needles were retained for longer after > EA). our protoocl was designed mainly by a senior acupuncturist (not > me) who prefers gentle stimulation. > > Chronic pain, by the way, is certainly maintained in the brain. in > many chronic pain conditions, the originating peripheral lesion is > improved or even resolved, but the brain circuitry is wound-up in such > a way that the perception of pain remains and is now maintained by > brain circuitry... In CTS, the peripheral lesion is still probably > there and is reflected by changed brain circuitry. perhaps if you can > attack the brain hyperactivation (by needling points away from the > wrist) it can indeed modify the severity of the originating lesion at > the wrist by such things as autonomic anti-inflammatory reflexes > etc... this remains to be seen... > > vitaly > > Chinese Medicine , " marianpblac " > <chinesemed@> wrote: > > > > Vitaly, > > > > Is there a reason why you didn't use EA for longer than 10 minutes? > > I usually use EA 20 mins, often with mixed hz-2to100 to get more > > types of responses. > > > > I see the TCM rationale: P7 source point and TB5 luo point. > > > > Thanks for the further explanation. I wonder whether the peripheral > > nerve impingement feeds back to the brain to, in effect, maintain or > > exacerbate the perception of the impingement? Lots of interesting > > hypotheses to explore ... if you're patient. > > > > Marian > > > > > Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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