Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Hi Pete, Two of four of my daughters have had eczema. I presented both as case studies in Clinc forum at CSTCM. I have taken them off of wheat, dairy and corn. I put them on Lonicera 13 from Seven Forests. Topically they have used Weleda Skin Food. Within one week they were better. The oldest was 13 - 14 years old and the youngest is 8. I'd be happy to share their case presentations with you if you like but I think the biggest factor is figuring out what it is that is causing the internal damp and heat. Wind was a factor as well. Let me know if you want more info. Good Luck! Ann E. - petetheisen<petetheisen To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine\ @> Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:37 PM Re: Pediatric eczema Azidox wrote: > I have suffered with this disease since birth. Two of my children > started showing signs at ages 8mths (boy) and 13 years (girl). My > daughter had beautiful skin until the age of 13 when it began as pigment > changes. Many small patches of faded skin, then began to show the signs > of dryness, and soon after the weepy stuff. My son showed the dry and > weepy right away. All three of us have been battling, without much > success, a strain of MRSA (multi drug resistant staff) that was picked > up initially by me in a l;ocal wal-mart. Although bactrim with a > leviquil combo seems to have worked for my daughter, my son (17) is > still having a terrible time. I had been bed bound for over a year and > spent a total of three months in and out of the hospital. I am > currently on a course of cyclosporine (neoral) with prednisone and have > seen some results. My question is what could I use herally for my > children. My son is really bad right now with full body coverage. > Weeping, cracking, and tremendous itching. The outbreak has also > effected his asthma. My daughter is clearing, but still suffers the > contant need to itch. Any help wqould be greatly apprechiated since no > dermatologist in the area wilkl touch us. Hi Azidox! Where are you? Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Hi there, thankyou for your reply. I am aware that chan tui is the nymph case of the cicada (we have ALOT of cicadas where I come from- but I guess they're not die dao), which is why I asked about the distinction between vegan and pure veg in a jain sense, as in the latter it would probably be acceptable to the patient- as the animal is not harmed, but not in the former. When my teacher first told me to do that, I thought it was disrespectfull to the patient. But now, down the track a bit, I wonder, which is why I posed the question. If the patient doesnt specifically request not to have animal products, or hasnt told me that they were avowedly vegan, I would probably add it because the efficacy is so good, and they are there to get treatment. Ignorance is bliss I guess, as many meat eaters get squeemish about eating bug shells. (That same teacher recommended that chan tui should be ground up a bit, as she said it can sometimes swell in decoction, and people can get quite upset by the " monsters " in their teapot;) Ive tended to grind it up since then, to avoid this effect, and to avoid any offputting effect on the patient if they look at the dried herbs. I wondered what others thought, and Im glad that you consider it OK as a vegetarian. I too, think that if someone is vegan then they should at least be asked, first. Regards, Lea. Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe " <tom.verhaeghe wrote: > > > > I am a vegetarian and I do avoid animal products, but I have drunk > decoctions with chan tui in them- chan tui is actually only the skin of the > insect. It can be found under trees in China. They don't have to kill the > animal in order to get the skin. > > I think it is a bad idea that when you know someone is a veg*n you > consciously avoid telling them that there are animal products in their > formula. I think that's a kind of disrespect, wouldn't you agree? > > Tom. > > > > ---- > > Lea Starck > 06/16/06 10:22:54 > Chinese Medicine > Re: Pediatric eczema > > One of my teachers once told > me that for vegetarians who object to products such as this, grind > up the Chan Tui into pieces and just dont tell the patient. Seeing > as one of the mentioned cases is Vegan (it was mentioned that he is > Indian- did you mean Vegan or Pure-Veg, as there is a difference in > diet. Is he a jain?) I wonder what people think of this? > We Made Changes > Your email is all new. > Learn More > Share Feedback > Recent Activity > 7New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I know this sounds very simple, but this seems to be so similar to the problems I had with my son, the simplicity of the cure was homeopathic calendula cream, not ointment. We tried everything and had to ward off the cortesone cream from the doctors. Most specifically it was the cream , and not taking a homeopathic remedy internally that helped., also lower the acidity of her diet. The cream was from Weleda, nothing else seemed to touch it. Regards Helene 1a. Posted by: " acupuncture4health " acupuncture4health acupuncture4health Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:31 am (PDT) Requesting some help with a 6 mo old baby girl with eczema. I would refer the patient out but as I am the only practitioner for 400 miles it makes it a little difficult. I have a full history from the mother - including gestational - and have made recommendations for diet modifications - protecting the spleen etc - but hesitate to prescribe herbs as I am not familiar with pediatric dosing. My diagnosis is blood deficiency, spleen and lung xu. Your help is greatly appreciated. Kayte Halstead, L.Ac Acupuncture 4 Health all about annelise hi kayte- thanks for offering to help us out on this! overall, she is a very happy content baby. she gets viral illnesses from daycare, but i think we're going to pull her out as i've possibly found a babysitter. the eczema started shortly after birth, while still nursing. i think we have made it worse using regular detergents on clothes and bedding as well as lotions with additives, not knowing any better. sleeping: night- between 6:30 and 7 pm to 5:30 or 6:15am am naps- sometimes 2 short ones or one longer one, totally about an hour and a half afternoon nap- usually one long one 1-2 hours sometimes she has anti-nap moods and will only sleep for 45 minutes the whole day, but spends time quietly playing in her crib. diapers: (i was just kidding when i said the stuff comes out looking the same as when it's gone in) but of course her BMs look differently than adults' secondary to her immature GI tract. nothing i've given her has come out remarkable strange. i make her own baby food. we don't give her anything out of the jar. and i'm careful to give her constipation causing foods (bananas, carrots) only once a day. she has at least one BM a day, sometimes more if she has something like pears or apples. her formula is milk-based with the DHA. she has plenty of wet diapers, so she's well hydrated. typical diet: breakfast 3oz fruit babyfood and usually about 4 oz formula mid morning snack of 7oz formula lunch 3oz combo of chicken and veggies about 4 oz formula afternoon snack of 7oz formula dinner 2oz veggie 1oz fruit 4oz formula topper offer before bed: anywhere between 2 and 7oz formula. each bottle also has a tbsp of rice cereal. it sounds like a ton of food, but she's right at the 50th percentile, she's just way more active than other babies. food she's eaten: pears apples bananas chicken green beans sweet potatoes peas carrots baby rice cereal baby whole grain cereal (maybe wheat and oats? i'd have to check) tried mashed potatoes, she hates them so we don't do that anymore. and occassionally a cracker or soaked raisins (in a choke proof gadget). but most of that stuff ends up on her or the floor. she drinks water with a splash of apple juice just to give it some flavor since it's getting hot. and during teething bits she's mouthed an otter pop. but that is so rare, and she only has a tiny bit of it. but all of this started while still on milk, and i don't think her diet has been exacerbating the problem. cleaning: we bath her 2 or 3 times a week. now we only do it twice a week and only once using baby soap. other environmental things to note: 3 cats and a dog. but we don't have carpeting, just a rug, and we vacuum frequently. she doesn't seem to be allergic, as any scratches do not get red or raised. then also the daycare situation, but like i said i hope to have her out of that real soon. family history: i have psoriasis and lots of allergies: seasonal, environmental, and some foods. (i got allergy shots as a kid). for the foods, it's particularly food with high acidity. actually, seems like only fruits now that i think of it, and the worst they do is give me blisters in my mouth. i don't get sick from them. she hasn't had any reactions like that from any food. and i also have a bad allergy to adhesives. i notice she has that too, after taking off her bandaids from shots. noah doesn't have any significant allergies except milk from when he was little. well i think that's it in a nutshell. Okay, i forgot to mention all the medications i was on during pregnancy. i had preeclampsia at my 7th month on. i almost delivered 8 weeks early and had several tributaline (sorry for the spellings) shots- 9 total, 2 magnesium sulfate IV drips 12 hours each, and indocin- the last resort pills. i had the steriod shots to develop her lungs when it looked like delivery was immenent. i was on blood pressure medication and anti contraction medicine (tributaline, then something stronger when that was working, i can't remember what it was) until delivery. i delivered at 37.5 weeks. i think that's all. but prior to all that, i had no complications and had been getting prenatal care the entire time, of course no smoking or drinking. kayte- we're open to considering other long-term management strategies. her dermatologist says that most kids take until their teens to grow out of it (if they ever grow out of it), it's just how to make it bearable in the meantime. we are going to go ahead and use the steroid cream on her thick patches just to help get her out of this acute stage and bad exacerbation she's in now. but the steroid cream is only to be used this first 2 weeks. but like he said, that will only calm it down since it's gotten so bad before it was officially diagnosed. anyway, she weighs approximately 16 pounds. i can't remember exactly when it started, but to tell you the truth i can't remember her NOT having it. so i'd say it started within the first month. then it just kept progressing to the point where it was really bad (like now) at about 2 1/2 months. i've noticed cycles of exacerbations remissions, but haven't been able to identify what makes it worse/better. and it never completely goes away, just some of the redness diminishes. her pediatrician recommended aquaphor (that crisco stuff) that we've been using religiously for 2 months. i don't think it does anything more for her than keep the skin moist. i was a little annoyed with her pediatrician, i felt like she kept treating symptoms instead of the cause, that's why i demanded to see a dermatologist. like she was helping the rash be less ugly-looking instead of trying to help the rash go away. he recommended another moisturizer and this steroid cream as well as changes to make in the house. but thanks very much! and thanks to whoever you're sending this to, too! 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