Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 The NCCAOM used to allow the untrained into the ranks of so-called BOARD CERTIFIED from their inception until 2001 simply by taking the test. They were FORCED to shut it down as there were to many untrained DCs and MDs who sleezed their way through. As some might note....California never respected the NCCAOM exam as anything special since people could be prepped for it without knowing very much and certainly without having any clinical experience such as is required at least in Florida of close to 1,000 hours as one requirement before licensure. Furthermore, in Florida the apprenticeship pathway was SHUT DOWN years ago due to the ease of sleeze. That is not to say that all apprenticeships are or were of such poor calibre. In a message dated 06/07/06 11:48:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cdf1 writes: Actually, you can sit for the NCCAOMs based entirely or partially on apprenticeship. Here is the link to the NCCAOM eligibility pdf file: _http://tinyurl.http://ti_ (http://tinyurl.com/mx2x6) See page 10 for the acupuncture apprenticeship criteria and pages 15-16 for the herbology. Whether you can practice in your state via the apprenticeship route depends on your state's laws. I just completed a 4-year apprenticeship in Georgia in both acupuncture and herbology and will sit for the boards in October. According to Georgia law, I can receive my Georgia license (issued by the medical board) once I pass the NCCAOMs. Cynthia Ferre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Actually, you can no longer sit for nccaom exams based partly on apprenticeship. They phased this out several years ago. [naturaldoc1] wrote: Anne states, " These are CEU courses, right. Don't you have to attend a formal college herb program to sit for the exam in CA and FL? " Actually Anne these are ceu courses or info if not interested in getting ceu for them. As for the second part of what you asked above. There are provisions for both the CA and NCCAOM to allow for apprenticeship study but herbs must be part of the curricula. I have seen that some people in CA have done this and passed the CA exam. For CA, you must have an approved plan before you start and includes objectives, material, etc. In the end, you still have to be in study for about the same amount of time and you have no degree. I kind of like the idea of having a formal educational background and lots of opinions to discuss cases with as opposed to just one mindset.Mike W. Bowser, L Ac : boblindeherbalist: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 07:29:35 -0700Re: TCM - Institute of Chinese Herbology - advice? There is no requirement of any board exam or licence to practice herbalism. Taking the board exam gives you more intials after your name. Herbs I understand are a normal part of the CA exam...which I think is great.Bobwww.acuherbals.comAnne Crowley <blazing.valley wrote:Gabriel:These are CEU courses, right. Don't you have to attend a formal college herb program to sit for the exam in CA and FL?Annegabe gabe wrote:>Hi, you may want to look at bluepoppys distance>learning herbal program, with Bob Flaws. >Very well explained and worth every penny. >www.bluepoppy.com>Good luck >Gabriel Fuentes>>>--- Philip Tan-Gatue <philiptangatue wrote:>> >>>Hi, I'm a western MD who now almost exclusively uses>>acupuncture >>(studied at Nanjing Uni of TCM) in my practice in>>the Philippines. I >>am looking for online courses I could take to>>improve my herbology >>skills and came across the Institute of Chinese>>Herbology (http://ich->>herbschool.com/)>>>>I was hoping to ask if anyone has had experiences>>with them and would >>like to share their comments. Also, if anyone can>>recommend other >>courses for me, it would be much appreciated.>>>>Thanks in advance!>>>>Philip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > >>>>Subscribe to the new FREE online journal for TCM at Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com >>Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145>>To change your email delivery settings, click, and adjust accordingly. >>Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author.>>Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. > Links>>>> >>>>>> >-- Anne C. Crowley<blazing.valley===============================[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Actually, you can sit for the NCCAOMs based entirely or partially on apprenticeship. Here is the link to the NCCAOM eligibility pdf file: http://tinyurl.com/mx2x6 See page 10 for the acupuncture apprenticeship criteria and pages 15-16 for the herbology. Whether you can practice in your state via the apprenticeship route depends on your state's laws. I just completed a 4-year apprenticeship in Georgia in both acupuncture and herbology and will sit for the boards in October. According to Georgia law, I can receive my Georgia license (issued by the medical board) once I pass the NCCAOMs. Cynthia Ferre Chinese Medicine , " J. Lynn Detamore " <lynndetamore wrote: > > Actually, you can no longer sit for nccaom exams based partly on apprenticeship. They phased this out several years ago. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Actually that is incorrect. Please go to the NCCAOM website as they still list apprenticeship as an option for acupuncture certification but not for OM diplomat status. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac -------------- > Chinese Medicine > lynndetamore > Wed, 7 Jun 2006 05:52:38 -0700 > Nccaom- apprenticeship option > > Actually, you can no longer sit for nccaom exams based partly on apprenticeship. They phased this out several years ago. > [naturaldoc1] wrote: > Anne states, > " These are CEU courses, right. Don't you have to attend a formal college herb program to sit for the exam in CA and FL? " > Actually Anne these are ceu courses or info if not interested in getting ceu for them. As for the second part of what you asked above. There are provisions for both the CA and NCCAOM to allow for apprenticeship study but herbs must be part of the curricula. I have seen that some people in CA have done this and passed the CA exam. For CA, you must have an approved plan before you start and includes objectives, material, etc. In the end, you still have to be in study for about the same amount of time and you have no degree. I kind of like the idea of having a formal educational background and lots of opinions to discuss cases with as opposed to just one mindset.Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > : boblindeherbalist: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 07:29:35 -0700Re: TCM - Institute of Chinese Herbology - advice? > There is no requirement of any board exam or licence to practice herbalism. Taking the board exam gives you more intials after your name. Herbs I understand are a normal part of the CA exam...which I think is great.Bobwww.acuherbals.comAnne Crowley <blazing.valley wrote:Gabriel:These are CEU courses, right. Don't you have to attend a formal college herb program to sit for the exam in CA and FL?Annegabe gabe wrote:>Hi, you may want to look at bluepoppys distance>learning herbal program, with Bob Flaws. >Very well explained and worth every penny. >www.bluepoppy.com>Good luck >Gabriel Fuentes>>>--- Philip Tan-Gatue <philiptangatue wrote:>> >>>Hi, I'm a western MD who now almost exclusively uses>>acupuncture >>(studied at Nanjing Uni of TCM) in my practice in>>the Philippines. I >>am looking for online courses I could take to>>improve my herbology >>skills and came across the Institute of Chinese>>Herbology (http://ich->>herbschool.com/)>>>>I was hoping > to ask if anyone has had experiences>>with them and would >>like to share their comments. Also, if anyone can>>recommend other >>courses for me, it would be much appreciated.>>>>Thanks in advance!>>>>Philip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > >>>>Subscribe to the new FREE online journal for TCM at Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com >>Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145>>To change your email delivery settings, click, and adjust accordingly. >>Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author.>>Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. > Links>>>> >>>>>> >-- > Anne C. Crowley<blazing.valley===============================[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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