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Amazing the way Moringa is being promoted. If it's what I think

it could be Limlu, a MLM company that says it's the nectar of the

Gods-very expensive, and I was told there are dozens of MD's

into it. And here you are just eating out of your garden and

putting in bean soup. Morinda is actually Noni and again has

been around for eons. I'm sure all of them are equally good

as all around tonics for your body.

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Hello all. Enjoy your bean soup!

a package of moringa leaves (about a cup) is <$2

alternate or add gua lou leaves (bitter melon)

or another not very popular, jute leaves.

this are all very reach in nutrients. Can all be grown in my backyard.

Gua lou grow wild in Florida.

Go figure that. Take care.

 

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Hi Andrea Beth,

As long as it doesn't snow in Sedona, you can still try to plant Moringa.

Cover the roots in the winter when it get cold.

Also you can plant the other 3 veg I mentioned.

Gather the leaves & freeze them for future use. These are seasonal.

Save some seeds for next spring.

Happy planting.

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Hi, Gua Lou and Bitter melon are in the same family, but gua lou is

trichosanthes and bitter melon is momordica.

Lea.

 

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> Hello all. Enjoy your bean soup!

> a package of moringa leaves (about a cup) is <$2

> alternate or add gua lou leaves (bitter melon)

> or another not very popular, jute leaves.

> this are all very reach in nutrients. Can all be grown in my

backyard.

> Gua lou grow wild in Florida.

> Go figure that. Take care.

>

 

> amy

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Hi there!.

Both species are eaten as vegetables the same way (trichosantis/ momordica)

leaves, fruits and all. Trichosantis is considered wild variety, more

bitter smaller fruit. Momordica is the cultivated variety, less bitter taste,

bigger fruits.

But leaves are the same. When you buy them from the store, it doesnt make

any difference.

Use them, cook them, eat them the same way.

In my culture they have the same name. Used interchangeably as

food/medicinals.

Take care.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi,

I didnt know that you could eat Gua lou leaves. :) When I was in

China I remember bitter melon being called Ku3Gua1. Due to the latin

names, I felt they weren't as closely related as, say, bai ju hua

and ye ju hua.

You mentioned your cultural background, if you dont mind me asking,

what is your background?

Bitter melon has never been a big favourite of mine, but I grew up

in the tropics and we grew many different varieties of tropical

fruits and vegetables, so many of the fruits and vegetables on offer

in China seemed like home to me. I remember being happy to discover

that durians and jakfruits were sold in the departure lounge of

kunming airport. I wanted to take some as carry-on luggage, for a

bit of in-flight snacking. Thankfully for everyone else, reason

prevailed.

If your in Florida, you could also try the new leaves or flowers of

Hibiscus Tiliaceous, they are eaten as a green right through the

pacific islands. They're a bit rough though. Avoid the sap in the

flower buds though, it can have a laxative effect. In florida its

considered an invasive species, so I dont know whether they are

poisioned or not. Something to keep in mind.

Regards,

Lea.

Chinese Medicine , Amyc144

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> Hi there!.

> Both species are eaten as vegetables the same way (trichosantis/

momordica)

> leaves, fruits and all. Trichosantis is considered wild variety,

more

> bitter smaller fruit. Momordica is the cultivated variety, less

bitter taste,

> bigger fruits.

> But leaves are the same. When you buy them from the store, it

doesnt make

> any difference.

> Use them, cook them, eat them the same way.

> In my culture they have the same name. Used interchangeably as

> food/medicinals.

> Take care.

>

 

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Somatosensory cortical plasticity in carpal tunnel syndrome treated by

acupuncture. Hum Brain Mapp. 2006 Jun 7;. Carpal tunnel syndrome (CTS) is a

common entrapment neuropathy of the median nerve characterized by paresthesias

and pain in the first through fourth digits. We hypothesize that aberrant

afferent input from CTS will lead to maladaptive cortical plasticity, which may

be corrected by appropriate therapy. Functional MRI (fMRI) scanning and clinical

testing was performed on CTS patients at baseline and after 5 weeks of

acupuncture treatment. As a control, healthy adults were also tested 5 weeks

apart. During fMRI, sensory stimulation was performed for median nerve

innervated digit 2 (D2) and digit 3 (D3), and ulnar nerve innervated digit 5

(D5). Surface-based and region of interest (ROI)-based analyses demonstrated

that while the extent of fMRI activity in contralateral Brodmann Area 1 (BA 1)

and BA 4 was increased in CTS compared to healthy adults, after acupuncture

there was a significant decrease in contralateral BA 1 (P < 0.005) and BA 4 (P <

0.05) activity during D3 sensory stimulation. Healthy adults demonstrated no

significant test-retest differences for any digit tested. While D3/D2 separation

was contracted or blurred in CTS patients compared to healthy adults, the D2 SI

representation shifted laterally after acupuncture treatment, leading to

increased D3/D2 separation. Increasing D3/D2 separation correlated with

decreasing paresthesias in CTS patients (P < 0.05). As CTS-induced paresthesias

constitute diffuse, synchronized, multidigit symptomatology, our results for

maladaptive change and correction are consistent with Hebbian plasticity

mechanisms. Acupuncture, a somatosensory conditioning stimulus, shows promise in

inducing beneficial cortical plasticity manifested by more focused digital

representations. Hum Brain Mapp, 2006. © 2006 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

 

 

 

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