Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Does anyone know the import of this?---It seems I heard recently that it is actually not beneficial and could be harmful? Anyone? Thanks Bea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Yes you heard it right. It is used for limited period to detox the liver from the side effects of an allopathic drug. Its toxic by itself. I got attracted to NAC due to its role in manufacturing the super antioxidant glutathione within the cells. NAC actually is decomposed in the digestive tract. So, its useless. Better one for glutathione is cystine. Very stable due to its double bond. If your primary interest is to increase your intra-cellular level of glutathione, then say so. After all what for are you after the NAC? Ratan.--------Ratan SinghPhone: 91 141 2652561Address: 7- NA- 16Jawahar NagarJaipur- 302004 INDIA----------- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple University Medical School, Philadelphia, USA);- Hypnotist, Biofeedback and Meditation Therapist.- Family, Marital and Sex Therapist.->Consultant Nutritional & Clinical Psychologist in Jaipur Hospital, India.psych_58, www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.commeditationandcancer---- On Fri, 6/20/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen wrote: Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen N-acetyl cysteine NAChealth_and_healing Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 9:54 AM Does anyone know the import of this?---It seems I heard recently that it is actually not beneficial and could be harmful? Anyone? Thanks Bea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Better one for glutathione is cystine I MY SELF AM INTERESTED IN THIS as a possible assist with ME/CFS..... your thoughts are appreciated. Thanks from Clare in Tassie http://phoenix-cfs.org/GluAACFS04.htm WHAT IS GLUTATHIONE? [Refs. 1--5] • A tripeptide composed of the amino acids glutamic acid, cysteine, and glycine. Its molecular weight is 307.33 Da.• Found in all cells in the body, in the bile, in the epithelial lining fluid of the lungs, and, at much smaller concentrations, in the blood.• The predominant nonprotein thiol (molecule containing an S-H or sulfhydryl group) in cells.• Its active form is the chemically reduced form, called "GSH."• GSH is compartmentalized, with concentrations ranging from 0.5 to 10 millimolar in various organs and cell types.• GSH serves as a substrate for enzymes, including the glutathione peroxidases and the glutathione-S-transferases. • When oxidized, two glutathione molecules join together via a disulfide bond to form "oxidized glutathione," or "glutathione disulfide," referred to as "GSSG."• Inside cells, the concentration of GSSG is normally maintained at less than 1% of total glutathione by the enzyme glutathione reductase, which is powered by NADPH, produced by the pentose phosphate shunt, part of carbohydrate metabolism. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE FUNCTIONS OF GLUTATHIONE (GSH)? [Refs. 1--5]• Maintains proper oxidation-reduction (redox) potential inside cells. Redox affects the oxidation state of sulfur in enzymes, and thus affects the rates of biochemical reactions in cells.• Scavenges peroxides and oxidizing free radicals directly and also serves as the basis for the antioxidant network.• Performs Phase II detoxication of heavy metals (such as mercury), organophosphate pesticides, chlorinated hydrocarbon solvents, estradiol, prostaglandins, leukotrienes, acetaminophen, and other foreign and endogenous toxins.• Stores and transports cysteine throughout the body.• Transports amino acids into cells, especially cystine into kidney cells.• Regulates the cell cycle, DNA and protein synthesis and proteolysis, and gene _expression. • Regulates signal transduction.• Participates in bile production.• Protects thyroid cells from self-generated hydrogen peroxide.By means of several of the above functions, GSH plays very important roles in (1) maintaining mitochondrial function and integrity, (2) regulating cell proliferation, and (3) supporting the immune system. Glutathione (GSH) synthesis, precursors|Cystine, Cysteine Why is glutathione important? How does the Glutathione, GSH antioxidant system work?www.1whey2health.com/glutathione_cysteine.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en & sa=X & oi=spell & resnum=0 & ct=result & cd=1 & q=cysteine+glutathione & spell=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 , psych doc <psych_58 wrote: > > Yes you heard it right. It is used for limited period to detox the >liver from the side effects of an allopathic drug. Its toxic by >itself. I got attracted to NAC due to its role in manufacturing the >super antioxidant glutathione within the cells. NAC actually is >decomposed in the digestive tract. So, its useless. Better one for >glutathione is cystine. Yeah, it seems that NAC is only useful as an antidote of paracetamol toxicity, to clean the kidneys after a CT scan or other procedures that require intravenous contrast liquid, and as an expectorant to clear your bronchi/lungs. So it should be used only for a few days and not permanently. A doctor told me that NAC to clear the lungs works wonderfully, but after some time it produces the opposite effect, so he stressed about using it only temporarily. best, navegante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 It's part of a liver detox combo. There is also cysteine and glutathione in it along with a whole slew of herbs.psych doc <psych_58 wrote: Yes you heard it right. It is used for limited period to detox the liver from the side effects of an allopathic drug. Its toxic by itself. I got attracted to NAC due to its role in manufacturing the super antioxidant glutathione within the cells. NAC actually is decomposed in the digestive tract. So, its useless. Better one for glutathione is cystine. Very stable due to its double bond. If your primary interest is to increase your intra-cellular level of glutathione, then say so. After all what for are you after the NAC? Ratan.--------Ratan SinghPhone: 91 141 2652561Address: 7- NA- 16Jawahar NagarJaipur- 302004 INDIA----------- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple University Medical School, Philadelphia, USA);- Hypnotist, Biofeedback and Meditation Therapist.- Family, Marital and Sex Therapist.->Consultant Nutritional & Clinical Psychologist in Jaipur Hospital, India.psych_58 , www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.commeditationandcancer---- On Fri, 6/20/08, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen > wrote: Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen > N-acetyl cysteine NAChealth_and_healing Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 9:54 AM Does anyone know the import of this?---It seems I heard recently that it is actually not beneficial and could be harmful? Anyone? Thanks Bea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I think you heard it right. And for long term use (to build up glutathione), its L-cystine (not L-cysteine). Ratan.----------Ratan SinghPhone: 91 141 2652561Address: 7- NA- 16Jawahar NagarJaipur- 302004 INDIA----------- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple University Medical School, Philadelphia, USA);- Hypnotist, Biofeedback and Meditation Therapist.- Family, Marital and Sex Therapist.->Consultant Nutritional & Clinical Psychologist in Jaipur Hospital, India.psych_58, www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.commeditationandcancer---- On Fri, 6/20/08, navigante1978 <navegante1978 wrote: navigante1978 <navegante1978 Re: N-acetyl cysteine NAC Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 3:21 PM , psych doc <psych_58@.. .> wrote:>> Yes you heard it right. It is used for limited period to detox the>liver from the side effects of an allopathic drug. Its toxic by>itself. I got attracted to NAC due to its role in manufacturing the>super antioxidant glutathione within the cells. NAC actually is>decomposed in the digestive tract. So, its useless. Better one for>glutathione is cystine. Yeah, it seems that NAC is only useful as an antidote of paracetamoltoxicity, to clean the kidneys after a CT scan or other proceduresthat require intravenous contrast liquid, and as an expectorant toclear your bronchi/lungs. So it should be used only for a few days andnot permanently. A doctor told me that NAC to clear the lungs workswonderfully, but after some time it produces the opposite effect, sohe stressed about using it only temporarily. best,navegante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I just got a big bottle of liver detox and regenerator with NAC in it--Dr. C Samuel Verghese formula--I hope i can finish it and not throw it away? It has lots of great stuff in it.psych doc <psych_58 wrote: I think you heard it right. And for long term use (to build up glutathione), its L-cystine (not L-cysteine). Ratan.----------Ratan SinghPhone: 91 141 2652561Address: 7- NA- 16Jawahar NagarJaipur- 302004 INDIA----------- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple University Medical School, Philadelphia, USA);- Hypnotist, Biofeedback and Meditation Therapist.- Family, Marital and Sex Therapist.->Consultant Nutritional & Clinical Psychologist in Jaipur Hospital, India.psych_58 , www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.commeditationandcancer---- On Fri, 6/20/08, navigante1978 <navegante1978 > wrote: navigante1978 <navegante1978 > Re: N-acetyl cysteine NAC Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 3:21 PM , psych doc <psych_58@.. .> wrote:>> Yes you heard it right. It is used for limited period to detox the>liver from the side effects of an allopathic drug. Its toxic by>itself. I got attracted to NAC due to its role in manufacturing the>super antioxidant glutathione within the cells. NAC actually is>decomposed in the digestive tract. So, its useless. Better one for>glutathione is cystine. Yeah, it seems that NAC is only useful as an antidote of paracetamoltoxicity, to clean the kidneys after a CT scan or other proceduresthat require intravenous contrast liquid, and as an expectorant toclear your bronchi/lungs. So it should be used only for a few days andnot permanently. A doctor told me that NAC to clear the lungs workswonderfully, but after some time it produces the opposite effect, sohe stressed about using it only temporarily. best,navegante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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