flea and tick suggestions?

[Guest guest]

I am looking for an alternative to Frontline for my cats. I am not

happy with the cost, or the fact that is a chemical product. Any

suggestions to a cheaper, safer, yet effective flea and tick solution

for cats?

[Guest guest]

There are a few things that you can put in their food but although dogs will

eat brewers yeast powder and garlic in their diets sometimes cats can be

fussier

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

" amyboccardi " <aaboccardi

 

I am looking for an alternative to Frontline for my cats. I am not

happy with the cost, or the fact that is a chemical product. Any

suggestions to a cheaper, safer, yet effective flea and tick solution

for cats?

[Guest guest]

Amy, I've known for years about a natural pest control for both humans and animals -- it's vitamin B1, or thiamine. I knew a couple that did missionary work in the mountains of central Mexico, and they always took B1 capsules every day for a month before leaving Texas, and continued to take them while on their trips, and they said the insects would not touch them. I also knew a girl whose veterinarian sold vitamins for her cat that had ample amounts of B1 in the liquid concoction, and she said her very fluffy Persian cat never had flea problems. I have never been able to find a supplement for cats that contained the B1 vitamin, but Brewers Yeast and Garlic tablets for cats and dogs do a pretty good job. I believe brewers yeast has a ton of B vitamins in it naturally.My two pursnicketty sister cats turn their noses up at the B.Y. and Garlic tabs, and I can't figure a way to get them to eat the B1 by mixing it with something they like. The little boogers won't eat anything but their dry food and dry treats, so there's no way to mix a powder with those. I'm just going to have to find some kind of oil they like -- and so far tuna or chicken flavors are out.As far as taking the B1 yourself, you better do it if you can get your cats to eat the B1 or the B.Y. and G. tabs. Those fleas and ticks will find you if they jump off the cats! My daughter takes B1 capsules, sometimes sold as Benfoitamine, and during the summer she's finally free of the mosquito bites she reacts to so badly. I just wish I would have remembered to give her some before she went on a camping trip last March -- she got a tick bite and has been so sick ever since. I am such a scatterbrain...But try the B1 -- I think you'll be surprised. Oh! There's also a product called Bug Off! that uses B1 in a coiled bracelet, and you can order adult or child sizes. I have friends that swear by these, and they should last 160 hours. I've seen them on Amazon.com -- just do a search.Hope that helps a little...Blessings,Molly in Texas , "amyboccardi" <aaboccardi wrote:>> I am looking for an alternative to Frontline for my cats. I am not> happy with the cost, or the fact that is a chemical product. Any> suggestions to a cheaper, safer, yet effective flea and tick solution> for cats?>

[Guest guest]

, " amyboccardi "

<aaboccardi wrote:

>

> I am looking for an alternative to Frontline for my cats. I am not

> happy with the cost, or the fact that is a chemical product.

 

 

 

 

This is great news for your cats! Products like Frontline contain

powerful and potentially very harmful neurotoxins - they're basically

pesticides for goodness sakes! The use of these kinds of poisons on

an animal like a cat, which is an extremely sensitive creature, can

wreak havoc with its overall health by compromising its immune system,

which ironically makes it even more susceptible to parasites such as

fleas and ticks:

 

 

 

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/avictim.htm#frontline

 

 

 

>Any

> suggestions to a cheaper, safer, yet effective flea and tick solution

> for cats?

 

 

 

Parasites, much like microbial pathogens such as bacteria, viruses and

fungi, only show up, much like garbage men, to infest/infect (in

effect 'cleaning up the mess') when the body is malnourished, damaged,

stressed, poisoned or otherwise compromised somehow.

 

Things like diseases and parasitic infestations only really ever occur

in the body due to the fact that its inner terrain is lacking a

natural, healthy symbiosis.

 

Healthy symbiosis often becomes compromised when a body is chronically

malnourished, overloaded with toxins and/or exposed to undue stress.

These conditions have a direct and deleterious effect upon the body's

internal physiology, creating an excess of toxins which accumulate

faster than the body is able to eliminate them. This in turn makes the

body increasingly vulnerable to things like infections and parasites,

which are really just Nature's way of cleaning up a toxic mess.

 

These same principles of symbiosis that effect health and wellness as

opposed to illness and disease, apply not only to the animal kingdom,

but also to the plant kingdom, as well as to human beings. And try as

we might to wage chemical warfare on disease and pests in the form of

things like pharmaceutical drugs, pesticides and herbicides, etc, the

truth is that this approach is like trying to kill the garbage men who

are just coming around to clean up the trash. Pathogenic

microorganisms and parasites infecting and infesting a body

are akin to flies and rats that are attracted to a rubbish dump. You

can swat the flies and shoot the rats, but unless and until you clean

up the trash, those flies and rats will just keep on coming.

 

The very first thing you should do for your cats in order to promote a

state of natural, vigorous symbiosis within their bodies is to start

weaning them off any kind of commercial junk pet food, and begin the

process of switching them to a diet of whole raw foods.

 

Domestic cats, just like every other feline on the planet, are

obligate carnivores. And their bodies, in terms of their highly

specialized anatomy and physiology, were never designed to eat the

kind of highly processed, overcooked junk that passes for pet food

these days. Rather their systems were designed, just like that of

their wild cousins and ancestors, to consume and assimilate food in

its raw state.

 

Feeding carnivores such as cats a steady diet of crappy junk pet food

not only puts a chronic strain on their entire systems, but also may

well cause them to be in a state of chronic, low grade malnourishment

as well. The consumption of commercial pet food is also a well known

cause of gingivitis and periodontal disease in domestic animals, both

of which are often precursors to deeper, more serious systemic diseases.

 

Please check out these links to learn more about how and why to feed

your cats the most natural and healthy diet possible:

 

 

 

http://www.rawfedcats.org

 

http://rawfed.com/dental.html

 

http://pets.rawcat/

 

 

 

 

Secondly, if you haven't already, you should stop allowing your cats

to be jabbed with any more vaccines, which wreak havoc with these

animals' immune systems, causing untold damage to their internal

terrain, and thus their ability to properly fend off pests like fleas

and ticks.

 

Here's another link that may be of interest in this regard:

 

 

 

http://pets.TruthAboutVaccines/

 

 

 

If your cats have been vaccinated, one of the best ways to help

reverse any damage that may have been caused (and please understand

that vaccine damage can actually be inherited) is via classical

homeopathic treatment:

 

 

 

http://health.ClassicalHomeopathyPets/

 

 

 

 

 

Besides feeding raw and avoiding commercial junk pet food, flea & tick

meds and vaccinations for your cats, some other suggestions are to:

 

 

~ Dust with food grade diatomaceous earth, which is a naturally

occurring non-toxic substance that kills pests mechanically rather

than chemically (so they can never become resistant to it) and can be

safely be used (the only caveat is that it shouldn't be inhaled) both

on and around pets to help rid them and the home of fleas and ticks.

 

~ Buy a flea comb and use it on your cats daily to remove fleas. Put

any fleas you catch into a bowl of soapy water to drown them.

 

~ Vacuum carpets and furniture regularly and dispose of the vacuum

contents properly to prevent reinfestation.

 

~ Wash any pet bedding frequently to destroy eggs and larvae and help

break the reproductive cycle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

HTH,

 

 

elan

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, the only things that seem to work for cats are the

poisons like Advantage and Frontline. Cats are very sensitive to

essential oils although I don't think they work anyway. Sorry. Josephine.

 

 

, " amyboccardi "

<aaboccardi wrote:

>

> I am looking for an alternative to Frontline for my cats. I am not

> happy with the cost, or the fact that is a chemical product. Any

> suggestions to a cheaper, safer, yet effective flea and tick solution

> for cats?

>

[Guest guest]

advantage and frontline are not poisons they are reputable Rx preventions that are safe for most animals most times.much love in Christ,sara 22/f/WI and madison--- On Thu, 6/12/08, jlkinkona <josephine wrote:jlkinkona <josephine Re: flea and tick suggestions? Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 11:16 PM

 

Unfortunately, the only things that seem to work for cats are the

poisons like Advantage and Frontline. Cats are very sensitive to

essential oils although I don't think they work anyway. Sorry. Josephine.

 

, "amyboccardi"

<aaboccardi@ ...> wrote:

>

> I am looking for an alternative to Frontline for my cats. I am not

> happy with the cost, or the fact that is a chemical product. Any

> suggestions to a cheaper, safer, yet effective flea and tick solution

> for cats?

>

[Guest guest]

try advantage multi for cats. while it is a chemical product it is very reputable.much love in Christ,sara 22/f/WI--- On Thu, 6/12/08, elan_spire <elan_spire wrote:elan_spire <elan_spire Re: flea and tick suggestions? Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 10:50 PM

 

, "amyboccardi"

<aaboccardi@ ...> wrote:

>

> I am looking for an alternative to Frontline for my cats. I am not

> happy with the cost, or the fact that is a chemical product.

 

This is great news for your cats! Products like Frontline contain

powerful and potentially very harmful neurotoxins - they're basically

pesticides for goodness sakes! The use of these kinds of poisons on

an animal like a cat, which is an extremely sensitive creature, can

wreak havoc with its overall health by compromising its immune system,

which ironically makes it even more susceptible to parasites such as

fleas and ticks:

 

http://www.shirleys -wellness- cafe.com/ avictim.htm# frontline

 

>Any

> suggestions to a cheaper, safer, yet effective flea and tick solution

> for cats?

 

Parasites, much like microbial pathogens such as bacteria, viruses and

fungi, only show up, much like garbage men, to infest/infect (in

effect 'cleaning up the mess') when the body is malnourished, damaged,

stressed, poisoned or otherwise compromised somehow.

 

Things like diseases and parasitic infestations only really ever occur

in the body due to the fact that its inner terrain is lacking a

natural, healthy symbiosis.

 

Healthy symbiosis often becomes compromised when a body is chronically

malnourished, overloaded with toxins and/or exposed to undue stress.

These conditions have a direct and deleterious effect upon the body's

internal physiology, creating an excess of toxins which accumulate

faster than the body is able to eliminate them. This in turn makes the

body increasingly vulnerable to things like infections and parasites,

which are really just Nature's way of cleaning up a toxic mess.

 

These same principles of symbiosis that effect health and wellness as

opposed to illness and disease, apply not only to the animal kingdom,

but also to the plant kingdom, as well as to human beings. And try as

we might to wage chemical warfare on disease and pests in the form of

things like pharmaceutical drugs, pesticides and herbicides, etc, the

truth is that this approach is like trying to kill the garbage men who

are just coming around to clean up the trash. Pathogenic

microorganisms and parasites infecting and infesting a body

are akin to flies and rats that are attracted to a rubbish dump. You

can swat the flies and shoot the rats, but unless and until you clean

up the trash, those flies and rats will just keep on coming.

 

The very first thing you should do for your cats in order to promote a

state of natural, vigorous symbiosis within their bodies is to start

weaning them off any kind of commercial junk pet food, and begin the

process of switching them to a diet of whole raw foods.

 

Domestic cats, just like every other feline on the planet, are

obligate carnivores. And their bodies, in terms of their highly

specialized anatomy and physiology, were never designed to eat the

kind of highly processed, overcooked junk that passes for pet food

these days. Rather their systems were designed, just like that of

their wild cousins and ancestors, to consume and assimilate food in

its raw state.

 

Feeding carnivores such as cats a steady diet of crappy junk pet food

not only puts a chronic strain on their entire systems, but also may

well cause them to be in a state of chronic, low grade malnourishment

as well. The consumption of commercial pet food is also a well known

cause of gingivitis and periodontal disease in domestic animals, both

of which are often precursors to deeper, more serious systemic diseases.

 

Please check out these links to learn more about how and why to feed

your cats the most natural and healthy diet possible:

 

http://www.rawfedca ts.org

 

http://rawfed. com/dental. html

 

http://pets. groups.. com rawcat/

 

Secondly, if you haven't already, you should stop allowing your cats

to be jabbed with any more vaccines, which wreak havoc with these

animals' immune systems, causing untold damage to their internal

terrain, and thus their ability to properly fend off pests like fleas

and ticks.

 

Here's another link that may be of interest in this regard:

 

http://pets. groups.. com TruthAboutVaccin es/

 

If your cats have been vaccinated, one of the best ways to help

reverse any damage that may have been caused (and please understand

that vaccine damage can actually be inherited) is via classical

homeopathic treatment:

 

http://health. groups.. com ClassicalHomeopa thyPets/

 

Besides feeding raw and avoiding commercial junk pet food, flea & tick

meds and vaccinations for your cats, some other suggestions are to:

 

~ Dust with food grade diatomaceous earth, which is a naturally

occurring non-toxic substance that kills pests mechanically rather

than chemically (so they can never become resistant to it) and can be

safely be used (the only caveat is that it shouldn't be inhaled) both

on and around pets to help rid them and the home of fleas and ticks.

 

~ Buy a flea comb and use it on your cats daily to remove fleas. Put

any fleas you catch into a bowl of soapy water to drown them.

 

~ Vacuum carpets and furniture regularly and dispose of the vacuum

contents properly to prevent reinfestation.

 

~ Wash any pet bedding frequently to destroy eggs and larvae and help

break the reproductive cycle.

 

HTH,

 

elan

[Guest guest]

, Sara Schneider

<dancing_christian_mocha_girl wrote:

 

 

 

>advantage and frontline are not poisons they are reputable Rx

>preventions that are safe for most animals most times.

 

 

> try advantage multi for cats. while it is a chemical product it is

>very reputable.

 

 

 

Of course these products you mention are poisons! They're all toxic

pesticides. Ask yourself this question: would you put these products

on your own body? How about on your children's bodies? Would you

ever consider putting some of this stuff between the shoulder blades

of yourself or your child even once, much less on a regular basis over

time? Of course not! That's because these so-called 'reputable'

products contain toxic and potentially harmful chemicals that are

designed to kill living things.

 

Repeatedly putting powerful toxins like these onto the bodies of

small, extremely sensitive creatures like cats acts like slow poison,

which over time can end up damaging and possibly even irreparably

eroding the natural ability of their immune systems to function

properly.

 

Is it any wonder that between the crappy junk commercial food they're

fed, the numerous vaccines (complete with booster after booster)

they're jabbed with, and the regular exposure to poisonous pesticides

so many of these animals have to endure throughout their lives, that

such an unprecedented number of pets these days are suffering from so

many chronic degenerative diseases?

 

With all due respect, people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

The use of poisonous chemicals is simply NOT the answer to creating

true health and wellness. It's not the answer for human beings, it's

clearly not a viable solution for the planet, and it's certainly not

doing anything to truly help our pets live longer, healthier lives and

be more naturally resistant to disease and/or parasites. On the contrary.

 

 

 

 

elan

[Guest guest]

Elan?

Thanks for the scoldings. But you forgot to give us a non poisonous

alternative for cats with fleas.

Josephine.

 

 

 

 

> With all due respect, people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

> The use of poisonous chemicals is simply NOT the answer to creating

> true health and wellness. It's not the answer for human beings, it's

> clearly not a viable solution for the planet, and it's certainly not

> doing anything to truly help our pets live longer, healthier lives and

> be more naturally resistant to disease and/or parasites. On the

contrary.

>

>

>

>

> elan

>

[Guest guest]

, " jlkinkona " <josephine

wrote:

>

> Elan?

> Thanks for the scoldings. But you forgot to give us a non poisonous

> alternative for cats with fleas.

> Josephine.

 

 

 

Hi Josephine,

 

 

I made a number of suggestions for natural alternatives and prevention

just recently in this post:

 

 

http://tech./message/41493

 

 

 

 

 

elan

[Guest guest]

oh yes, I saw that long one. But wonder if you have many cats?

Josephine

 

 

 

 

>

> Hi Josephine,

>

>

> I made a number of suggestions for natural alternatives and prevention

> just recently in this post:

>

>

> http://tech./message/41493

>

>

>

>

>

> elan

>

[Guest guest]

, " jlkinkona " <josephine

wrote:

>

> oh yes, I saw that long one. But wonder if you have many cats?

> Josephine

 

 

 

Lest this discussion veer further off into OT territory, I've

responded to this post offlist.

 

 

elan

[Guest guest]

Elan,

I don't think we are getting too far off topic. After all, if anything

happens to our pets it can affect our health. Please post what you

have here. Thanks. Josephine.

 

 

> Lest this discussion veer further off into OT territory, I've

> responded to this post offlist.

>

>

> elan

>

[Guest guest]

I am a holistic dog breeder. Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth works. It

is crushed fossil shells and has 15 minerals in it. I have been using

it for 6 years and have never had fleas since then. Well, one time I

brought fleas home, but I treated the puppy with it and they were dead

the next day. You would put a teaspoon a day in your cats food and

dust their coats with it when you see fleas. They will be dead pretty

quickly and you may very well never see fleas again, just from putting

it in their food. There is alot of information on my website about

the harmful things being done to our pets. All the chemicals are very

bad and deadly. There are alternatives. Please go to my website and

be informed. I have done many hours of research.

 

Maryjo

www.buttercuppuppies.com

 

 

 

 

>

> advantage and frontline are not poisons they are reputable Rx

preventions that are safe for most animals most times.

>

> much love in Christ,

> sara 22/f/WI and madison

>

> --- On Thu, 6/12/08, jlkinkona josephine wrote:

> jlkinkona josephine

> Re: flea and tick suggestions?

>

> Thursday, June 12, 2008, 11:16 PM

>

>

>

>

>

Unfortunately, the only things that seem to work for

cats are the

>

> poisons like Advantage and Frontline. Cats are very sensitive to

>

> essential oils although I don't think they work anyway. Sorry.

Josephine.

>

>

>

> , " amyboccardi "

>

> & lt;aaboccardi@ ... & gt; wrote:

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; I am looking for an alternative to Frontline for my cats. I am not

>

> & gt; happy with the cost, or the fact that is a chemical product. Any

>

> & gt; suggestions to a cheaper, safer, yet effective flea and tick

solution

>

> & gt; for cats?

>

> & gt;

>

[Guest guest]

Margaret,

You might try Amazon.com. I've purchased what I assumed was "food'grade" DE for $3 a pound. I assumed it was food grade because the instructions included directions for horses. Non food grade is stuff that is mined in an area which contains arsenic or heavy metals.

Hugh

Margaret <margaret1307 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:44:24 PM Re: flea and tick suggestions?

 

--Maryjo: I've know for years about the virtues of diatomaceous earth which is readily available in largequantities where pool supplies are sold. However I'venever found a source for food-grade diatomaceous earth insmall amounts for home use. It's so good for a number of things--carpet cleaning,de- fleaing of pets, even as a dentifrice. Do you have a reliable mail-order sourcefor it? I hope you will post it or reply privately. Thanx! margaret- In , "Maryjo" <ilovekidsanddogs@ ...> wrote:>> I am a holistic dog breeder. Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth works. It> is crushed fossil shells and has 15 minerals in it. I have been using> it for 6 years and have never had fleas since then. Well, one time

I> brought fleas home, but I treated the puppy with it and they were dead> the next day. You would put a teaspoon a day in your cats food and> dust their coats with it when you see fleas. They will be dead pretty> quickly and you may very well never see fleas again, just from putting> it in their food. There is alot of information on my website about> the harmful things being done to our pets. All the chemicals are very> bad and deadly. There are alternatives. Please go to my website and> be informed. I have done many hours of research.> > Maryjo> www.buttercuppuppie s.com> > > > > >> > advantage and frontline are not poisons they are reputable Rx> preventions that are safe for most animals most times.> > > > much love in Christ,>

> sara 22/f/WI and madison> > > > > > > > > > >