Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Medical Tyranny: Patient Refuses Rectal Exam, Doctor Won't Butt Outby Joanne Waldron (see all articles by this author)(NaturalNews) Many people are under the impression that patients in the U.S. have the right to decline treatment if they are mentally competent and aware of the consequences of such a refusal. However, that doesn't seem to be the case if you visit certain hospitals. A construction worker who was hit in the head while on the job was taken to New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center where he received eight stitches above his left eyebrow. When a doctor informed him that he needed to have a rectal exam in order to ascertain whether or not he sustained a spinal injury, the patient flatly refused the treatment.What happened next is scary. While hospital personnel tried to hold the patient down in order to administer the exam anyway, very much against the patient's wishes, the patient accidentally hit a doctor while trying to break loose. Unfortunately, the hospital staff did not wish to take "no" for an answer, and the patient was drugged and later awoke with a tube in his throat and lubricant in his rectum, handcuffed to a bed. It seems doctors have the authority to decide to ignore the wishes of a patient if they feel the patient is incapable of making an informed decision.While it might be reasonable to give doctors some latitude in these matters, the story doesn't seem to make sense. If the patient was truly unable to make an informed decision about his medical care, why were misdemeanor assault charges filed against him for hitting the doctor? Surely a patient who was incapable of rational thought should not be held accountable if he were truly not thinking clearly and only acting out due to an injury? Curiously, they all thought he was thinking clearly enough to have him arrested for his actions but not clearly enough to have the right to informed consent concerning his care.Just how necessary is a rectal exam when someone sustains a head injury, anyway? Clearly, not everyone who sustains a head injury and goes to an emergency room receives a rectal exam, and some medical professionals say that there are less invasive procedures that can be used to determine the neurological status of a patient. The patient in this case was quite responsive. He knew what exam the doctors wanted to do, and he knew why. His lawyer insists that things should've come to a halt the moment he said "no."What is most disturbing to health freedom advocates is that the patient did not prevail in his lawsuit against the hospital. Hopefully, his lawyers will file an appeal. If any neurological testing needs to be done, perhaps it would best be done on the jury members who apparently have butts where their brains should be.References:(http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gn7nIqTvF7zSx6NAjqcHp5xD5AUAD906RT180)(http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/21/lawsuit/) http://www.grisoft.com Anti-Virus Scanned this message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Never heard such nonsense - but the US is WAY ahead of Australia in terms of advanced technical knowledge - and possibly the predilection of the Drs may have had something to do with it ??? - Clares Primus Medical Tyranny: Patient Refuses Rectal Exam, Doctor Won't Butt Outby Joanne Waldron (see all articles by this author) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I would have accepted all this, had this information been for the betterment of humanity, without the price tag. The cost part of it makes it sound like a phoney.--Best,Sumit--- On Wed, 28/5/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote: Jane MacRoss <highfield1 Re: medical tyranny Date: Wednesday, 28 May, 2008, 2:31 PM Never heard such nonsense - but the US is WAY ahead of Australia in terms of advanced technical knowledge - and possibly the predilection of the Drs may have had something to do with it ??? - Clares Primus Medical Tyranny: Patient Refuses Rectal Exam, Doctor Won't Butt Outby Joanne Waldron (see all articles by this author) Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 what frightens me is that we here in Oz seem to follow ultra close to what the USA gets up to! and I DO REFUSE things off docs and in hospital currently....... ain't allowing no rectal exam either unless I believe it to be needed. __, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Very disturbing. Thanks. , " Clares Primus " <mcharris wrote: > > BlankMedical Tyranny: Patient Refuses Rectal Exam, Doctor Won't Butt Out > by Joanne Waldron (see all articles by this author) > > > (NaturalNews) Many people are under the impression that patients in the U.S. have the right to decline treatment if they are mentally competent and aware of the consequences of such a refusal. However, that doesn't seem to be the case if you visit certain hospitals. A construction worker who was hit in the head while on the job was taken to New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center where he received eight stitches above his left eyebrow. When a doctor informed him that he needed to have a rectal exam in order to ascertain whether or not he sustained a spinal injury, the patient flatly refused the treatment. > > What happened next is scary. While hospital personnel tried to hold the patient down in order to administer the exam anyway, very much against the patient's wishes, the patient accidentally hit a doctor while trying to break loose. Unfortunately, the hospital staff did not wish to take " no " for an answer, and the patient was drugged and later awoke with a tube in his throat and lubricant in his rectum, handcuffed to a bed. It seems doctors have the authority to decide to ignore the wishes of a patient if they feel the patient is incapable of making an informed decision. > > While it might be reasonable to give doctors some latitude in these matters, the story doesn't seem to make sense. If the patient was truly unable to make an informed decision about his medical care, why were misdemeanor assault charges filed against him for hitting the doctor? Surely a patient who was incapable of rational thought should not be held accountable if he were truly not thinking clearly and only acting out due to an injury? Curiously, they all thought he was thinking clearly enough to have him arrested for his actions but not clearly enough to have the right to informed consent concerning his care. > > Just how necessary is a rectal exam when someone sustains a head injury, anyway? Clearly, not everyone who sustains a head injury and goes to an emergency room receives a rectal exam, and some medical professionals say that there are less invasive procedures that can be used to determine the neurological status of a patient. The patient in this case was quite responsive. He knew what exam the doctors wanted to do, and he knew why. His lawyer insists that things should've come to a halt the moment he said " no. " > > What is most disturbing to health freedom advocates is that the patient did not prevail in his lawsuit against the hospital. Hopefully, his lawyers will file an appeal. If any neurological testing needs to be done, perhaps it would best be done on the jury members who apparently have butts where their brains should be. > > References: > > (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gn7nIqTvF7zSx6NAjqcHp5xD5AUAD906RT180) > > (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/21/lawsuit/) > > > > > > http://www.grisoft.com Anti-Virus Scanned this message > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Almost like "Feel the Fear and do it anyway?" Like nursing in Colleges - because the US did it? We are now going back into Hospital training .......... Etc etc Jane - Clares Primus Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:26 PM Re: Re: medical tyranny what frightens me is that we here in Oz seem to follow ultra close to what the USA gets up to! and I DO REFUSE things off docs and in hospital currently....... ain't allowing no rectal exam either unless I believe it to be needed. __, Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release 5/27/2008 1:25 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 When Doctors, Lawyers, bureauctats and politicians take over you better get out the vaseline. - Jane MacRoss Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:46 AM Re: Re: medical tyranny Almost like "Feel the Fear and do it anyway?" Like nursing in Colleges - because the US did it? We are now going back into Hospital training .......... Etc etc Jane - Clares Primus Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:26 PM Re: Re: medical tyranny what frightens me is that we here in Oz seem to follow ultra close to what the USA gets up to! and I DO REFUSE things off docs and in hospital currently....... ain't allowing no rectal exam either unless I believe it to be needed. __, Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release 5/27/2008 1:25 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I really do not like petrochemicals .............. and as the nurse I'm not the one lying on the table .......... Jane Bill West When Doctors, Lawyers, bureauctats and politicians take over you better get out the vaseline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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