Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I am 52, and i am wondering if i should do it or not. Is there a real benefit to this procedure? or is it overdone, over-hyped? I was also wondering... How can they perform colonoscopy (entire length of the colon) if the walls are impacted and coated by mucoid plaque? As i understand it, you can not remove all that with just laxative. But, that's all you take when you prepare for it. So, am i missing something here? When i asked my physician (during the physical), he says the colon is not full of all that stuff, and the prep will remove any fecal matter left for the procedure. Can anyone clear my confusion, please? LOVE, Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 The results I have seen - the photographic results - of colonoscopies have all shown shiny clean pink guts as the prep usually removes all faecal matter. It really depends on why you are having the procedure done at all - as to whether or not you need it. Best, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 , " Jane MacRoss " <highfield1 wrote: > > The results I have seen - the photographic results - of colonoscopies have > all shown shiny clean pink guts as the prep usually removes all faecal > matter. It really depends on why you are having the procedure done at all - > as to whether or not you need it. > > Best, > > Jane > Hi Jane, I always thought the same as you until I came across a video a while back showing several colonoscopies of colons that are far from being shiny, clean and pink. Please understand that I have nothing whatsoever to do with the product being promoted in this video, and am in no way advertising it here, but I thought others might like to see this video since it clearly shows how chronic disease is reflected in the health (or rather the lack thereof) of the colon. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=colonoscopy+kangen & hl=en & sitesearch= elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Well - I have only seen photos of bowels I have known so perhaps I have clean healthy friends! Even with visible tumours there was no sign of messy faecal matter. I mean a video could be of anyone - did you know the person? Jane Hi Jane, I always thought the same as you until I came across a video a while back showing several colonoscopies of colons that are far from being shiny, clean and pink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Yeah, where is the 20 pounds of fecal matter that you hear about in many of the colon cleanse webpages? Something is amiss. The cleanse sites like curezone says it takes weeks to clean out this stuff, yet the prep does it all in 1 day? and only with laxatives? This does not make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Kris, I would not have that done. As with anything invasive like that, there is always a chance of problems. Perforated colon for one. Also, the concoction they give you to drink to clean you out could cause kidney damage. Also, a low blood sodium level could lead to psychological or neurological problems. And sure, a colonoscopy is generally a low risk procedure and these don't happen very often, but they do happen. Do a lot of research before you agree to this, and also research the products they give you to clean you out. Carol , " Kris *ii7y " <Krisof+ wrote: > > I am 52, and i am wondering if i should do it or not. Is there a real > benefit to this procedure? or is it overdone, over-hyped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Remember, a colonoscopy looks at only the large colon, doesn't even get into the small intestine. A lot of guts ARE full of all that junk, maybe more so in the small intestine, which can accumulate harmful byproducts that impair natural digestive function. Food gets stuck along the walls where the microvilli are, then your body can't absorb the nutrients from your food. You certainly wouldn't want to " clean yourself out " very often like you have to do in preparation for a colonoscopy, whereas probiotics and plant based digestive enzymes would definitely be a more " calm " way to keep your intestines clean and happy. The " preparation " is targeted for the majority of the population, who are constipated. Some people have only a few bowel movements a week, and that preparation concoction they give you will clean that all out in one day. But what about people who have healthy colons, like me, who have at least 3 bowel movements a DAY - that concoction would literally make me sick. Carol , " Kris *ii7y " <Krisof+ wrote: > > I am 52, and i am wondering if i should do it or not. Is there a real > benefit to this procedure? or is it overdone, over-hyped? > > I was also wondering... > > How can they perform colonoscopy (entire length of the colon) if the > walls are impacted and coated by mucoid plaque? > > As i understand it, you can not remove all that with just laxative. > But, that's all you take when you prepare for it. > > So, am i missing something here? > > When i asked my physician (during the physical), he says the colon is > not full of all that stuff, and the prep will remove any fecal matter > left for the procedure. > > Can anyone clear my confusion, please? > > LOVE, Kris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 And I'd also like to add - ask the doctor who will be performing this procedure how many colonoscopies he has done. Carol , " bluegreensolutions " <bluegreensolutions wrote: > Do a lot of research before you agree to this, and also research the > products they give you to clean you out. > Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 IMO, you need to have a reason to have this done. Do you have a family history of cancer and specifically colon cancer? Do you have a history of intestinal problems (including chronic constipation)? And by that I mean that you should be going more than twice a day. Also, I would ask the dr. if there is another way of getting " cleaned out " in preparation for the procedure. The kit that they have you use usually had some awful chemicals that are so bad for you. I've often wondered if these chemicals are the beginning of problems for a lot of people. My mother has a colonoscopy done once every two years. However, her mother and father both died of colon cancer. She also has a dr. that allows more natural products to clean her out in preparation. This last procedure she had done laid her up for weeks. I was really beginning to get concerned that a " simple " procedure would cause a recovery of several weeks. But, for her peace of mind, she feels she needs to have it done, and they have found pollups, which thank God weren't cancer. But, I also wonder, do these " pollups " really need to be cut off? I don't know, I'm really on the fence about this. I think you need to weigh the negatives against the positives in your own situation. , " Kris *ii7y " <Krisof+ wrote: > > I am 52, and i am wondering if i should do it or not. Is there a real > benefit to this procedure? or is it overdone, over-hyped? > > I was also wondering... > > How can they perform colonoscopy (entire length of the colon) if the > walls are impacted and coated by mucoid plaque? > > As i understand it, you can not remove all that with just laxative. > But, that's all you take when you prepare for it. > > So, am i missing something here? > > When i asked my physician (during the physical), he says the colon is > not full of all that stuff, and the prep will remove any fecal matter > left for the procedure. > > Can anyone clear my confusion, please? > > LOVE, Kris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 , " Jane MacRoss " <highfield1 wrote: > > Well - I have only seen photos of bowels I have known so perhaps I have > clean healthy friends! Even with visible tumours there was no sign of messy > faecal matter. I mean a video could be of anyone - did you know the person? > > Jane Hi Jane, The video shows colonoscopies of a number of different people, and no, I don't know any of them. But several of them do clearly show impacted fecal matter stuck to the sides of the colon. elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Hi Carol, , " bluegreensolutions " <bluegreensolutions wrote: > Remember, a colonoscopy looks at only the large colon, doesn't even > get into the small intestine. Thanks very much for pointing this out. It's also important to note that the small intestine is around 20 feet long while the colon is only about 5 feet in length. A lot of guts ARE full of all that > junk, maybe more so in the small intestine, which can accumulate > harmful byproducts that impair natural digestive function. Food gets > stuck along the walls where the microvilli are, then your body can't > absorb the nutrients from your food. I agree and again, I think this is a really important point which many people fail to take into account when considering the benefits of internal cleansing. Thanks very much for your comments. elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Hello, When my mom was 52 her family Dr suggested she have a hemocult ( sorry not sure of the spelling, it is a test of your fecal matter ), because her grandfather had died from colon cancer. She had it tested, and they found blood. So, she then had a cololoscopy, and they found pollups. She was told not to worry because they were small, and they biopsied them. Come to find out it was a stage 4 cancer, and had gone through her colon wall. She had 18" of her lrg intestine removed, and did chemo. It has been 8 years and now she only goes for a colonoscopy every 5 years. Had it not been discovered I do believe it would have killed her, but I do believe that she could have healed herself without so much damage to herself that was caused by the chemo. I am 40 years old. I wil have my first hemocult when I am 42. My mom's sister also had breast cancer and cervical cancer. I don't worry about this because if I do it will control my life. I try to learn what I can about natural health, because I do believe that you can heal yourself naturally. Blessings TinaTina <mommyon731 wrote: IMO, you need to have a reason to have this done. Do you have afamily history of cancer and specifically colon cancer? Do you have ahistory of intestinal problems (including chronic constipation)? Andby that I mean that you should be going more than twice a day.Also, I would ask the dr. if there is another way of getting "cleanedout" in preparation for the procedure. The kit that they have you useusually had some awful chemicals that are so bad for you. I've oftenwondered if these chemicals are the beginning of problems for a lot ofpeople.My mother has a colonoscopy done once every two years. However, hermother and father both died of colon cancer. She also has a dr. thatallows more natural products to clean her out in preparation. Thislast procedure she had done laid her up for weeks. I was reallybeginning to get concerned that a "simple" procedure would cause arecovery of several weeks. But, for her peace of mind, she feels sheneeds to have it done, and they have found pollups, which thank Godweren't cancer. But, I also wonder, do these "pollups" really need tobe cut off? I don't know, I'm really on the fence about this. I think you need toweigh the negatives against the positives in your own situation. , "Kris *ii7y" <Krisof+wrote:>> I am 52, and i am wondering if i should do it or not. Is there a real> benefit to this procedure? or is it overdone, over-hyped?> > I was also wondering...> > How can they perform colonoscopy (entire length of the colon) if the> walls are impacted and coated by mucoid plaque?> > As i understand it, you can not remove all that with just laxative.> But, that's all you take when you prepare for it.> > So, am i missing something here?> > When i asked my physician (during the physical), he says the colon is> not full of all that stuff, and the prep will remove any fecal matter> left for the procedure.> > Can anyone clear my confusion, please?> > LOVE, Kris> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 One way colon cancer grows is to have an impacted sluggish colon, which happens because of what we choose to put into our body. Cancer loves an acid environment, and grows on sugar. You don't have to get cancer. Eat alkaline foods. Eliminate acid foods, sugar, simple carbs, and all processed foods. Carol , tina Echebarria <tinaeche wrote: > > Hello, When my mom was 52 her family Dr suggested she have a hemocult ( sorry not sure of the spelling, it is a test of your fecal matter ), because her grandfather had died from colon cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 The pictures they took of mine showed a very clean colon. The prep was a lot more than just a laxative though. There were large amounts of stuff to drink, pills to take, and enemas too. I'm glad I did it though. They found some polyps and removed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 According to Schulze, the polyps are dissolved without the trauma of cutting it (see below)- the power of the body to heal itself given proper nutrition? " In an interview with Dr Richard Schulze, he tells of a man who came to him filled with colon polyps and full blown colon cancer. He was told by his doctors he would die if he didn't undergo surgery immediately to remove 12 inches of colon. He opted to go under the care of Dr Schulze. The patient did the colon cleanse and added 7-8 large cloves of garlic to his diet. When he returned to the doctors, they implied that his delay had probably sealed his fate, and early death. On inspection of his colon, the doctors discovered all of his polyps gone and his tumor dried and shriveled, and fell from the lining of his colon when they merely scraped it " Source: http://mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer2/colon.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 IF you opt for this proceedure, don't get the cherry flavor, it is god aweful. The good thing, for me, it caught precancerous polyps. Magnolia -- In , " Kris *ii7y " <Krisof+ wrote: > > I am 52, and i am wondering if i should do it or not. Is there a real > benefit to this procedure? or is it overdone, over-hyped? > > I was also wondering... > > How can they perform colonoscopy (entire length of the colon) if the > walls are impacted and coated by mucoid plaque? > > As i understand it, you can not remove all that with just laxative. > But, that's all you take when you prepare for it. > > So, am i missing something here? > > When i asked my physician (during the physical), he says the colon is > not full of all that stuff, and the prep will remove any fecal matter > left for the procedure. > > Can anyone clear my confusion, please? > > LOVE, Kris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Thanks, Magnolia. OK, no cherry flavor. I made my first appointment next week. Does any one else have any tips/suggestion for the preparation? or the experience? Kris " magnoliarouge47 " wrote: > > IF you opt for this procedure, don't get the cherry flavor, it is > god awful. The good thing, for me, it caught precancerous polyps. > Magnolia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Greetings, all... I've had colonoscopies, and yes, they are very important. Please don't ever skip this crucial diagnostic test! Before I went in for my first colonoscopy, I had two back to back colonics, one a day, two days in a row, and my physician said it worked beautifully to clear my colon for the procedure. I'm due again in early June, this time I am going to do a cleanse fast (The Master Cleanse)followed by one colonic. The pharmeceutical concoctions are hard to take, plus they do tend to dehydrate you. Don't ever be afraid to research out alternative methods, many times your physician will approve, and you can save yourself some unpleasant effects. , " magnoliarouge47 " <magnoliarouge47 wrote: > > IF you opt for this proceedure, don't get the cherry flavor, it is > god aweful. The good thing, for me, it caught precancerous polyps. > Magnolia > -- In , " Kris *ii7y " <Krisof+@> > wrote: > > > > I am 52, and i am wondering if i should do it or not. Is there a > real > > benefit to this procedure? or is it overdone, over-hyped? > > > > I was also wondering... > > > > How can they perform colonoscopy (entire length of the colon) if the > > walls are impacted and coated by mucoid plaque? > > > > As i understand it, you can not remove all that with just laxative. > > But, that's all you take when you prepare for it. > > > > So, am i missing something here? > > > > When i asked my physician (during the physical), he says the colon > is > > not full of all that stuff, and the prep will remove any fecal > matter > > left for the procedure. > > > > Can anyone clear my confusion, please? > > > > LOVE, Kris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Thanks, silvercedarspirit... How often do you do yours? You mean you did the hydrotherapy instead of all that pharmaceuticals? Also, what is " The Master Cleanse " ?? Kris " silvercedarspirit " <CedarSpirit22 wrote: > > Greetings, all... I've had colonoscopies, and yes, they are very > important. Please don't ever skip this crucial diagnostic test! > Before I went in for my first colonoscopy, I had two back to back > colonics, one a day, two days in a row, and my physician said it > worked beautifully to clear my colon for the procedure. I'm due > again in early June, this time I am going to do a cleanse fast (The > Master Cleanse)followed by one colonic. The pharmeceutical > concoctions are hard to take, plus they do tend to dehydrate you. > Don't ever be afraid to research out alternative methods, many times > your physician will approve, and you can save yourself some > unpleasant effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 I recommend having one. I had one in my early 40's; colon cancer runs in my family on both sides. Terri On 5/16/08, Kris *ii7y <Krisof+ wrote: I am 52, and i am wondering if i should do it or not. Is there a realbenefit to this procedure? or is it overdone, over-hyped?I was also wondering...How can they perform colonoscopy (entire length of the colon) if the walls are impacted and coated by mucoid plaque?As i understand it, you can not remove all that with just laxative.But, that's all you take when you prepare for it.So, am i missing something here? When i asked my physician (during the physical), he says the colon isnot full of all that stuff, and the prep will remove any fecal matterleft for the procedure.Can anyone clear my confusion, please? LOVE, Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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