Microwaving Does Not Harm Foods - Hanneke

April 12, 2008

At 06:15 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote:

I just gave the link to two sites which clearly indicate that Dr. Mercola

has twisted the truth. Below these posts, is an article that spoke about

a study from Cornell Univ that indicated that vitamin C had not been

diminished by microwaving. I found it interesting, but said I hadn't made

my mind up, if you recall...If you don't want to believe it, and choose

instead to believe what someone says who couldn't even tell the truth

about an incident just to bolster his POV, that's up to you. I tend not

to believe people who lie to make a point. I would think people would

want accurate information on which to base their beliefs. But, frankly,

it doesn't matter to me one way or the other....It's not my job to be a

monitor....I'll post stuff, and find links.......beyond that - you

believe what you want to. If you chose to believe everything someone says

when it's clear they're not being truthful just to make a

point........that's up to you. I prefer having a basis for my

beliefs.......

If I didn't believe natural methods had merit, I wouldn't have belonged

to this group as long as I have. I would have taken my children to the

doctors all the time, instead of employing various natural

remedies.

We've bumped heads before because we haven't agreed. I'm willing to

debate something I feel strongly about, but you seem to take it

personally. So, I won't address your posts anymore. But, if you can't

stand it if some disagrees with you - and I wasn't even addressing

you..well, I don't know what to say....I'm guessing you just want me to

shut up and go away.......But, I'm not going to do that just because you

get upset about something I wrote .....I honestly don't understand why it

upsets you so much if someone doesn't have the same POV as you........The

fact still remains, that much of what the natural community believes, has

not been verified by science. Some people are doing work in that area,

which I think is great. The more support there is for certain ideas, the

more people in general will accept them. which, I would think, would be

the ultimate goal.

I really don't appreciate your attitude - I didn't appreciate it

before.....I wasn't rude - I wasn't snotty.......I think it was

unwarranted........And I think you were very condescending. Maybe you

don't want any kind of discussion - all you want is someone to agree with

you........Since you clearly don't want my input, just don't read my

posts when I make them. I will be sure not to respond to anything you've

written or have posted. But, it's my right to respond to other people.

You don't need to read them.....

But, in case you're interested, this is a quote and a link from a post

that I sent on the 9th.

" I haven't actually seen any studies on the issue, but it seems to

me that microwaving something would pretty much kill whatever nutritional

value the food or drink had. That thesis is certainly supported by the

experiment with the seedlings. If one accepts the thesis that microwaving

food kills the nutritional value, it would seem, if one ate much food

cooked or heated that way, that disease or ill-health would follow.

Apparetnly, there have been a number of studies that support this

hypothesis.Even Russia thought so, as they banned microwaves for a while.

But, later, the ban was lifted. Here is a link to an interesting article

titled, " Microwave Cooking is Killing You. " published in 1994.

http://www.relfe.com/microwave.html

I saw several articles, some with later dates, but they all seemed to

reference the same studies and the ban Russia put on them in 1974. While

I suspect people think it may do a lot of harm, including possible cause

some cancers, I don't think there's any definitive proof. But, IMO,

anything that messes with the molecules of things the way microwaves do,

can't be good....... "

Lynn

If you can come up with any other article, any article at all,

about microwave dangers, hazards, other than the article one is

referring to in quite a few posts here (without the post under discussion

having been produced here)

feel welcome to post it. Thinking in the vein you argued for that

we should keep in mind, that many people here might not ever have seen

this article before, this article might give a few more guidelines to

those and give rise to search further.

Assumptions that those who prefer alternative health modalities

over the scientific approach which has proven by now maims and kills

people, specifically look for articles that support their ideas of

healing is preposterous.

Again, feel free to post anything, anything at all to enlighten us.

Hanneke

At 05:37 AM 12/04/2008, you wrote:

At 06:33 AM 4/11/2008, you

wrote:

I remember reading some stuff that said molecules were affected, and it

made sense to me. What you're saying also makes sense to me.....But, I

just received the info below, and thought it interesting in light of the

fact we had just been discussing it. Dr. Mirkin is usually pretty

good...I though the article was interesting, as was the study done at

Cornell Univ. While I haven't made up my mind yet, I'm not discounting

it.....I think I need to learn a bit more about it before I definitively

make up my mind one way or the other. It seems hard to believe that some

change doesn't occur when things are micro-waved. It surprised me to read

that there was less loss of vitamin C when micro-waving food versus other

cooking methods. I would have thought there would have been more

loss

IMO, part of the problem I see with the natural community, is many

beliefs aren't based on hard science, but by observation and word of

mouth. I wish there were more scientists in the natural community.

..Preferably, ones who would perform objective tests, not ones to support

a particular idea or belief. I don't see it as mutually exclusive -

science and natural methods...But, I think it's difficult, if one

believes certain things to not try and find stuff that supports them.

But, IMO, the only way some of what the natural community believes is

going to be widely accepted, or accepted by certain people, is hard

scientific data. Dunno, may not be a popular view, it's just what I

happen to believe.......

Lynn

I am trying

to remember--fibrofog--but I beleive it isn't that the microwave destroys

nutrients but that the microwave changes the energy field of the food

which changes the way it affects are body that concerns must people in

the natural healing field.

Jackie

- Lynn Ward arubyrogers ;

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Sharing-Diet-Info Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:48 PM Microwaving Does Not Harm Foods

Dr. Gabe Mirkin's Fitness and Health e-Zine April 13, 2008

Microwaving Does Not Harm Foods

A report from

the nutrition department of Cornell University should convince you that microwaving food does not destroy its nutritional value. Dr. Gertrude Armbruster and her colleagues showed that fruits and vegetables lost the least vitamin C when microwaved, compared to other cooking methods. Vitamin C is a good indicator of the amount of nutrients lost because it is both water soluble and sensitive to heat (Newsweek, March 14, 2008). Microwave ovens use

electromagnetic waves that vibrate water molecules inside food to produce heat. Most

nutrients in food are not destroyed by microwaving because they are not in the watery layer. An earlier study from Spain, widely reported

in the news media, claimed that microwaving broccoli destroyed all of its antioxidants (Journal of Science in Food and Agriculture, November 2003). However, the researchers in this study cooked the broccoli in almost a cup of water for five minutes at full

power. The antioxidants were destroyed by the long cooking in water at a high temperature, not by the microwaves. The length of time vegetables are exposed to hot water determines the amount of water-soluble nutrients lost, whether the cooking is done in a microwave oven, steamer, pot or pressure cooker. For

nutrient- rich vegetables from your microwave, use very little water (no more than a tablespoon or two) and short cooking times. Contrary to myths spread

by a popular natural health newsletter, the radiation from microwaves is not harmful and has no effect whatever on food other than to heat it up. Once the

food comes out of the oven, there are no lingering effects of the microwaves. If you are worried about chemical changes to the nutrients in your food, avoid broiling, grilling, frying or any other method that browns foods. The reason food cooked in a microwave oven is so bland is that the chemical changes caused by high surface temperatures don't happen. That's why most people use their microwave ovens to reheat food instead of for cooking.

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