Oprah Redefines Normal with Pregnant ‘Man’

April 8, 2008

Oprah

Redefines Normal with Pregnant ‘Man’

Media ignore the simple

reality: Thomas Beatie is a woman.

By Kristen Fyfe

Culture and Media Institute

April 4, 2008

Oprah Winfrey, who

can take obscure books and with a single nod of approval send them

rocketing to the top of the best seller list, has decided society needs a

“new definition of what diversity means for everybody” and that we need

to redefine “normal.” This was the primary takeaway from her

exclusive broadcast interview with Thomas Beatie, the transgendered “man”

who is pregnant.

As CMI predicted, Oprah didn’t challenge the falsehood that Thomas is

a pregnant “man.” At the end of the program she even declared,

“I’ve been on television what seems like forever. You’re my first

pregnant man.” In that way Oprah is like the reporters on ABC’s

Good Morning America and CBS’s Early Show who also declared

Thomas Beatie to be a pregnant man.

But men don’t have babies. They don’t possess female reproductive organs.

As several colleagues have noted, when you peel the onion of this story

what you have is a pregnant woman. The news media and Oprah have

completely ignored this truth.

Oprah’s April 3rd interview was unique because the Beaties,

Thomas and wife Nancy, were talking. Up until this interview the

mainstream media have been working off an article and picture that

appeared on the gay news site Advocate.com. GMA has given the story

the most coverage as NewsBusters’ Scott Whitlock noted

here, with three stories in nine days. But while Oprah’s

interview shed light on some topics that have no doubt sparked curiosity

– like how the baby was conceived, why Thomas (who was born a female and

named Tracy) didn’t stay a lesbian, and the effects of testosterone on

female genitalia – she continued to toe the progressive line by referring

to Thomas as “he.”

Oprah also interviewed Thomas’s doctor and the couple’s neighbors.

All referred to Thomas as “he” though each mentioned the unusual aspects

of the situation.

Dr. Kimberly James: …it's a challenge to your thinking of what's

normal. …this is a challenging -- people's normal perceptions are

going to be challenged.

George (the Beatie’s neighbor): Obviously, it's a pretty unusual

situation and it was unusual for me when I found out. I mean, it was kind

of, you know, sexually-dyslexic for me to kind of put it

together.

Oprah also interviewed Nancy’s adult daughters from a previous

marriage. They told Oprah that Thomas and Nancy are “an incredible

couple.”

Oprah: Ok. Well, Amber and Jen are Nancy's daughters from a

previous marriage. Amber …when you first met Thomas, he was Tracy? Yeah.

And how did you find out he was going to become a man?

Amber: You know, it was a natural progression. We saw that Tracy felt

more like a male and you know, we come from a small community in Hawaii.

So, I think it was just more of a relief than anything for us because he

actually got to be who he is and there wasn't the confusion after that.

Oprah: Uh-huh. And then when you all heard about the pregnancy --hello.

How was it, Jen?

Jen: Um, it was very exciting, actually. I mean, we kind of knew, I

think, for almost about two years when you guys first told us that you

were thinking about getting pregnant. After it kind of sunk in after a

while, there probably was a little bit of jealousy going on, thinking

that this little girl is going to have such a great life with Thomas and

my mom. I mean, it's just going to be really interesting to see them --

see on the sidelines of me being a lot older and watching them be parents

again. It's going to be very exciting.

Oprah: How do you feel about them being public and all that this means?

Jen: It's a little scary.

We're scared for them. I don't know that the world's all that prepared,

but they're just regular, boring people and a regular family.

Oprah’s interview also revealed that Thomas and Nancy are scared

too. They told Oprah that even people in the transgender community

have not been supportive of their going public with the story.

Nancy speculated that they would go into hiding if the media pressure

became too much.

Which raises the question, why go on a show hosted by the reigning

monarch of talk TV if you think you will need to go into hiding

afterwards? Could the fact that Thomas is “finishing a book he

started when he was 17” have something to do with that decision?

Or is Oprah’s devotion to the new bible of tolerance, The New

Earth by Eckhart Tolle, also at play? Oprah mentioned the book

three times in the course of the interview. (It should be noted

that she is hosting a webinar on the book which is drawing hundreds of

thousands of participants each week to her Web site.)

Thomas: You know, I have a very stable male gender identity. I see

pregnancy as a process and it doesn't define who I am.

Oprah: I got that.

Thomas: Yeah.

Oprah: I'm reading A New Earth. Ok, got it.

***

Oprah: … you were writing a piece about this … you wanted to ask

everyone to ‘embrace the gamut of human possibility and to define for

themselves what is normal.’ Do you think our country, this world, is

ready for that?

Thomas: I do. I think that different is normal and love makes a family.

Oprah: Love makes a family.

Thomas: Yeah. That's all that matters. [audience applause]

Nancy: And there's all kinds of different families.

Oprah: And there's all kinds of different families. Well, it's

interesting, because I heard that your neighbors were studying A New

Earth, too, and that was helping them to wrap their brains around it.

And as you all know, every Monday night we're doing the New Earth

class online and you can download it at any time. And one of the things

that Eckhart Tolle talks about is labels, how we're not our labels. We're

not. We are consciousness come from the greater consciousness, and when

you recognize that, the more people begin to recognize that, that's how

we get to be a new earth. And I can't imagine, you know, 50 years from

now, 100 years from now, whatever, however people choose to live in

harmony with themselves and their community, I don't believe people will

be judging it as they do now. I think we are evolving to a new way of

being.

Thomas: Definitely.

Oprah: Yeah, and a new definition of what diversity means for everybody,

and redefining normal. And I really applaud you for having the courage to

do it.

Oprah’s tacit endorsement of the Beaties’ controversial choice should not

be written off. She is the most prominent media voice in America

and one of the most prominent worldwide. One would hope that she

would respect that position of power by recognizing that many Americans

find this story bizarre and unnatural. She could use her platform

to seek the other side on this provocative story and listen to the voices

of those who say that Thomas is not a man. Surely in her “new

definition of what diversity means” there is room for people with

traditional values and views.

Kristen Fyfe is senior writer at the

Culture and Media

Institute, a division of the Media Research Center.

April 9, 2008

I think Oprah is the scariest person in the country. What is with

her? Why do people just believe every word she says? I don't get it.

I know she probably does some good, which is just a coverup for her

real agenda - now she's doing the unspeakable - she is recruiting

people to join " her religion " - all that new age-y babble babble. She

doesn't believe in God or Jesus, and makes it very clear that people

are in the dark if they believe.

Scary scary woman!!! I fear for our country - she is taking over.

How do we stop her???

Carol

, Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote:

>

> Oprah Redefines Normal with Pregnant `Man'

> Media ignore the simple reality: Thomas Beatie is a woman.

April 9, 2008

I guess a simple method is: turning of the telly

and encouraging others to do the same, perhaps

explaining why it would be a good idea to turn

off the idiot box full stop, disconnect cable.

just a suggestion

H.

At 08:53 PM 9/04/2008, you wrote:

>I think Oprah is the scariest person in the country. What is with

>her? Why do people just believe every word she says? I don't get it.

>I know she probably does some good, which is just a coverup for her

>real agenda - now she's doing the unspeakable - she is recruiting

>people to join " her religion " - all that new age-y babble babble. She

>doesn't believe in God or Jesus, and makes it very clear that people

>are in the dark if they believe.

>

>Scary scary woman!!! I fear for our country - she is taking over.

>How do we stop her???

>

>Carol

>

> , Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote:

> >

> > Oprah Redefines Normal with Pregnant `Man'

> > Media ignore the simple reality: Thomas Beatie is a woman.

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April 9, 2008

We have Oprah's program here too, as well as Dr.

Phil, as well as Letterman, as well as the

morning shows NBC and forget what the other

program is called, not sure which network.

Doesnt' really matter, it's mostly mainstream

garbage anyway. All the MSM drivel dominates

the television stations worldwide.

At 09:11 PM 9/04/2008, you wrote:

>I guess a simple method is: turning of the telly

>and encouraging others to do the same, perhaps

>explaining why it would be a good idea to turn

>off the idiot box full stop, disconnect cable.

>

>just a suggestion

>

>H.

>

>At 08:53 PM 9/04/2008, you wrote:

>

> >I think Oprah is the scariest person in the country. What is with

> >her? Why do people just believe every word she says? I don't get it.

> >I know she probably does some good, which is just a coverup for her

> >real agenda - now she's doing the unspeakable - she is recruiting

> >people to join " her religion " - all that new age-y babble babble. She

> >doesn't believe in God or Jesus, and makes it very clear that people

> >are in the dark if they believe.

> >

> >Scary scary woman!!! I fear for our country - she is taking over.

> >How do we stop her???

> >

> >Carol

> >

> > , Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote:

> > >

> > > Oprah Redefines Normal with Pregnant `Man'

> > > Media ignore the simple reality: Thomas Beatie is a woman.

> >

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April 9, 2008

At 07:23 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote:

Carol,

I agree - and, for the most part, people believe every word she says. One

doesn't even have to watch her on TV to know the impact she has on people

- her magazine, book club, website with the free downloadable programs,

and the various things she's involved with. On the surface, I think she

looks and sounds pretty good. She's doing some good things. But, when one

looks a bit harder, and digs a bit deeper, you can see how frightening

some of her views actually are - and the impact they can have on a lot of

people. Thousands if not millions of people are going to swallow what she

is promoting whole. People think, because she is a woman, is black,

ostensibly had a rough childhood and made it to the big time despite all

of this, and does some good things, that everything she says is valid and

offered with good intentions...She's already shown her judgement isn't

always that good - that she'll accept falsehood from people without

actually checking them out. (among other things, remember that book

" A million little pieces? " ). Not to mention, she's not above

twisting facts to suit her agenda. The article I sent is a good example

of that. So, IMO, her judgement is faulty and needs to be checked. Like

anyone who is the media, she has a lot of power - not to mention, she's

one of the richest people in the world....and, she's very

pursuasive..........

Lynn

I think Oprah is the scariest

person in the country. What is with

her? Why do people just believe every word she says? I don't get it.

I know she probably does some good, which is just a coverup for her

real agenda - now she's doing the unspeakable - she is recruiting

people to join " her religion " - all that new age-y babble

babble. She

doesn't believe in God or Jesus, and makes it very clear that people

are in the dark if they believe.

Scary scary woman!!! I fear for our country - she is taking over.

How do we stop her???

Carol

--- In

, Lynn Ward <lynnward

wrote:

>

> Oprah Redefines Normal with Pregnant `Man'

> Media ignore the simple reality: Thomas Beatie is a

woman.

April 9, 2008

At 07:43 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote:

I suspect that's one of the reasons people get cable and

satellite......of course, in a short time, in the U.S. if you don't get a

converter, which can't be used with all tv's, one either is going to have

to have a new tv or cable or something like that, because otherwise they

won't even be able to get local stations because everything is going

digital.

We have Oprah's program here

too, as well as Dr.

Phil, as well as Letterman, as well as the

morning shows NBC and forget what the other

program is called, not sure which network.

Doesnt' really matter, it's mostly mainstream

garbage anyway. All the MSM drivel dominates

the television stations worldwide.

At 09:11 PM 9/04/2008, you wrote:

>I guess a simple method is: turning of the telly

>and encouraging others to do the same, perhaps

>explaining why it would be a good idea to turn

>off the idiot box full stop, disconnect cable.

>

>just a suggestion

>

>H.

>

>At 08:53 PM 9/04/2008, you wrote:

>

> >I think Oprah is the scariest person in the country. What is

with

> >her? Why do people just believe every word she says? I don't get

it.

> >I know she probably does some good, which is just a coverup for

her

> >real agenda - now she's doing the unspeakable - she is

recruiting

> >people to join " her religion " - all that new age-y

babble babble. She

> >doesn't believe in God or Jesus, and makes it very clear that

people

> >are in the dark if they believe.

> >

> >Scary scary woman!!! I fear for our country - she is taking

over.

> >How do we stop her???

> >

> >Carol

>

April 10, 2008

I am in China, and don't watch TV anyway, yet I still hear some things

about Oprah

The last I heard was that she had Eckhart Tolle as a guest. Now I

would be very surprised if anyone had any mud to sling at Eckhart

Tolle. His over-all message of " The Power of Here and Now " is

extremely difficult to argue with.

Now, we know that Oprah is an astute woman, and that she is never

going to invite a guest with whom she doesn't have similar vibrations.

So we can assume that she is on her way to vibrating in a similar way

to Eckhart Tolle. We can also assume that she isn't as free to do what

she might really like to do, because she has to answer to her controllers.

We all express our truth in different ways, and we all interpret other

truths in different ways. Take any truth about God, for example.

Before we can make an assessment regarding true or false, we have to

understand our own truth about God. We all have a different understanding

The word God has been used in so many different contexts, that no two

people have the same idea. I therefore think her idea is to try to

eliminate the word god, in order to eliminate the misunderstanding.

I believe that I not able to readily contact anything more subtle than

what I call my highest self. This is as big as my mind is capable of

going. I know that there is the rest of infinity out there, but I have

accepted that it is beyond my grasp.

This gives me the great benefit of being able to cease the

never-ending search for a while, and to take a rest, and to look

around, and smell the flowers, and begin to appreciate what Eckart

Tolle is telling us all. His ideas of God are well worth a listen, or

read and for sure Oprah has listened to it, if not read it. Echart's

books are available as audio books, read by himself.).

Please be careful when you use terms like New Age claptrap.

This is also another very misunderstood term. We all have our own idea

of what New Age means.

But about some of it there is little doubt. The foundatios of the

so-called new-age movement are the writings from or ancient sages of

several thousand years ago, and they, more than anything else we may

discuss, have stood the test of time.

I was lucky to be introduced gently to the ancient Hindu

understanding, as enhanced by the ideas of the Yogis, through a series

of books by Yogi Ramacharaka.I have some of them on my website as

follows. (If anyone would like an e-mailed copy then please let me

know. I haven't yet worked out how to include a download facility (or

search) in my website).

The books were written in the early 1900s, and are now free of

copyright, and available as free downloads from Gutenberg press and

other places.

The following works by Yogi Ramacharaka are available on this site

We would recommend reading them, in the following order:

The Hindu-Yogi Science of Breath -A Complete Manual of The Oriental

Breathing Philosphy of Physical,

Mental, Psychic and Spiritual Development.

Fourteen lessons in Yogi Philosophy and Oriental Occultism

Hatha Yoga -The Yogi Philosophy of Physical Well-Being

A Series of Lessons in Raja Yoga - The Yoga of the Mind - Psychic Healing

The Kybalion - A Study of the Hermetic Philosophy of Ancient Greece

and Egypt

A Series of Lessons in Gnani Yoga (The Yoga of Wisdom.)

Advanced Course in Yogi Philosophy and Oriental Occultism

http://dgwa1.fortunecity.com/mind/breath.html

Having got the advert out of the way, I would like to summarise by

saying that I agree that Oprah is a very powerful woman, and I

believe that she is the best hope that we have got.

Incredibly few of the main media presenters are awake yet, but they

are telling us what to do. Who in their right mind is going to listen

to the ramblings of someone who is asleep?

Love and light

David

, Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote:

>

> At 07:23 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote:

>

> Carol,

>

> I agree - and, for the most part, people believe every word she says.

> One doesn't even have to watch her on TV to know the impact she has

> on people - her magazine, book club, website with the free

> downloadable programs, and the various things she's involved with. On

> the surface, I think she looks and sounds pretty good. She's doing

> some good things. But, when one looks a bit harder, and digs a bit

> deeper, you can see how frightening some of her views actually are -

> and the impact they can have on a lot of people. Thousands if not

> millions of people are going to swallow what she is promoting whole.

> People think, because she is a woman, is black, ostensibly had a

> rough childhood and made it to the big time despite all of this, and

> does some good things, that everything she says is valid and offered

> with good intentions...She's already shown her judgement isn't always

> that good - that she'll accept falsehood from people without actually

> checking them out. (among other things, remember that book " A million

> little pieces? " ). Not to mention, she's not above twisting facts to

> suit her agenda. The article I sent is a good example of that. So,

> IMO, her judgement is faulty and needs to be checked. Like anyone who

> is the media, she has a lot of power - not to mention, she's one of

> the richest people in the world....and, she's very pursuasive..........

>

> Lynn

>

> >I think Oprah is the scariest person in the country. What is with

> >her? Why do people just believe every word she says? I don't get it.

> >I know she probably does some good, which is just a coverup for her

> >real agenda - now she's doing the unspeakable - she is recruiting

> >people to join " her religion " - all that new age-y babble babble. She

> >doesn't believe in God or Jesus, and makes it very clear that people

> >are in the dark if they believe.

> >

> >Scary scary woman!!! I fear for our country - she is taking over.

> >How do we stop her???

> >

> >Carol

> >

> >--- In

>

><%40> \

,

> >Lynn Ward <lynnward@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Oprah Redefines Normal with Pregnant `Man'

> > > Media ignore the simple reality: Thomas Beatie is a woman.

>

April 10, 2008

Great post, David!

I watched the video a few days back, I don't know who it was put out

by, but I couldn't understand

what the fuss was all about! Why would they think Oprah was part of a

cult? Linked to Obama?

I guess I didn't understand the whole thing, but then I don't watch

Oprah!

We were all born and raised in our own belief system, it is the ones

who have awoken that

understand Eckhart Tolle and what he is saying!

Peace to you and have a great NOW!

Toni

"What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday,

and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow:

Our life is the creation of our mind." ~Buddha~

David West wrote:

I am in China, and don't watch TV anyway, yet I still hear some things

about Oprah The last I heard was that she had Eckhart Tolle as a guest. Now I

would be very surprised if anyone had any mud to sling at Eckhart

Tolle. His over-all message of "The Power of Here and Now" is