Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Know of any places I can download meditation materials? Kenneth T - Jane MacRoss Monday, January 14, 2008 5:30 PM Kenneth T Meditation is always good Kenneth T Good for everything! Jane - Kenneth Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:49 AM Re: Moderators Notice - MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!! I think that once internet 2 comes along, I will go back to watching television. No! Wait! that is worse. I will have to start reading more books, but then even that will pass by if the powers that be have their way. Kenneth T - Soul_bro2 Monday, January 14, 2008 1:07 PM Re: Moderators Notice - MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!! Once INTERNET 2 arrives, the freedom of speech will disappear. See infowars.com for details and start a new medical conspiracy on prisonplanet.tv -------------- Original message ----------------------"Kenneth" <plisca> Today our groups disappear, tomorrow the world.> It is a shame...> > Ahhh, the more groups that they remove the more likely that I will cancel my > paid account and go back to the free one (or none at all).> Why do I pay for my email account, you ask? Well, I guess because the > same reason why some people pay for aol. Besides, with a paid account, I can > save my emails instead of leaving them on the net to later disappear (like > now). No warning at all just wake up to nothing.> Free speech is fleeting and will/can be gone in the wink of an eye.> > Kenneth T> - > Nan> > Monday, January 14, 2008 8:35 AM> Re: Moderators Notice - > MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!!> > > collects data. For who? Duh! My guess is from what I'm seeing on > UTUBE is that the government is getting involved and may be enforcing > HR1955. I don't think this bill has been passed into law yet, but when it > does we are all in danger and there will be no more "alternative" groups. We > will have to go underground. Your group will have to meet elsewhere or just > email each other. What a shame.> - > NWEagle> Monday, January 14, 2008 12:55 AM> Moderators Notice - > MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!!> > > > MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!!> > Members could not post to that group, they would get message failure, or > delayed message, moderators would get messages that their postings were > delayed or that that group did not except posting, ETC> > I still do not know what was so important, that they did not want us to > know?> who ever they may be, they are really coming hard on blocking > alternative medicine groups, chats and blobs> > Any one have any ideas?> > Moderator> > > > __________ NOD32 2789 (20080114) Information __________> > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> http://www.eset.com> > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 TM is good - and I belong to this : 7 Stages of Mystic Ascension to Heaven7 Stages of Mystic Ascension to Heaven: 1) Praise or Bhakti, 2) Prayer, 3) Manas japa (simran, praying without ceasing, repeating the name of God -- mantra, the first stage of meditation), 4) Manas dhyana (visualising the form of the Living Master, second stage of meditation), 5) Dristi sadhana (seeing Inner Light at the Third Eye Center, third stage of meditation), 6) Nada Sadhana (hearing the Inner Sounds --- Surat Shabd Yoga, fourth stage of meditation), 7) Reaching Kaivalya (Oneness with Soundlessness, the Nameless One, Formless Supreme Being, the Supreme State, The Ocean of Love -- the Goal)Three Important Requirements: Praise, Prayer, MeditationBy Sant Sevi Ji MaharajThere are three important requirements to be met in the practice of a person who pursues devotion to the Divine and seeks to attain liberation. First is praise; second is prayer; and third is meditation. We know that when we are indebted to someone, we should express our gratitude and appreciation. God has blessed us bountifully. Although we are unable to repay God for his generous blessings, we can acknowledge this goodness by chanting praises about the Divine Being. When we exalt God through song, we declare the glories of the Divine. In doing this, we remember the grandeur of God. As a natural result, our faith in God increases. Unless we acknowledge someone's qualities, it is impossible to be faithful to that person. Tulsi Das Sahab says: Without having the knowledge of the nature of God it is impossible to know him. And without understanding his qualities we can not have love for God. Without love we cannot have devotion and true faith. This is as unattainable as the mixing of water and oil [which is impossible]. Therefore, in order to have devotion and faith in God it is necessary to know the grandeur of God. Once the glory of God is known, our heart is attracted to God. This is a great way to keep your heart in devotion to God. Thus, it is through praise that we extol the divine powers of God and draw our mind toward God. After singing praises to God we, then, pray. Prayer is supplication with deep humility. In general, people have desires and make demands. Only the great sages do not have wants. Kabir Sahab said: My desires are gone, as are my worries. My mind is filled with detachment. One who does not want anything is the king of kings. Sant Tulsi Das says: People desire sons, wealth and fame in this world. Why do people desire that which taints the mind? Why do we desire these things? Sant Tulsi Das considers this: [Fleeting] pleasures come to us without asking, whether we are in heaven, hell, house, or forest. Why then do people work so hard to get these pleasures while they ignore the advice of the sages [to seek permanent joy? Why do we invest so much effort in acquiring these worldly pleasures which come to us naturally? And let us consider as well that there is always pain involved in acquiring worldly objects, and that an even greater exertion is required to sustain them. And further, when these very same insidious sensory pleasures leave us, the distress is even more intense. This is why, the wise do not ask for things which are transitory. The truth is that our desires should only be for something which would eliminate the desire [for worldly pleasures] itself. In reality, the only thing we should be asking God for is to achieve union with the divine. After realizing the Divine, there is nothing left to be achieved. This is the end of all wants. Prayer and invocation are not merely concerned with the mindless muttering of requests, but rather, prayer should be the voice of our heart. God always listens to the one who calls out with a pure heart. In the Yajur Veda (chapter 20) it is said: Oh God, even as we unknowingly commit various sins, day and night, please forgive these offenses and ill desires. You are omnipresent, like the pervasive wind. We have previously spoken about prayer in both Christianity and Islam. Christians refer to this practice as prayer, and Muslims call it ibadat. We see that in all theistic religions there is a great emphasis on prayer. Communion or Meditation Practice The practices of praise and prayer-glorification and invocation-are followed by communion through the practices of contemplation and meditation. The Sanskrit word upasana literally means sitting near God. The saints distinguish four categories of upasana. The four basic practices are 1) Manas japa, 2) Manas dhyana, 3) Dristi sadhana and 4) Nada-nu-sandhana.--- Sant Sevi Ji Maharaj, in, The Harmony of All ReligionsMeditation Practice (Sadhana) According to Sant Mat MysticismThere are several meditation practices in Sant Mat. There are several techniques described, the specific details of which are taught to students at the time of their deeksha (initiation) into the practice:1) developing a daily routine, the habit of meditating at the same time or times each day;2) proper posture with back straight so that one is truly focused at the Third Eye and remains alert and awake;3) Manas Japa (Simran), a mantra repetition of a sacred word or words done mentally;4) Manas Dhyan, the technique of mentally visualising a form of God or one's teacher;5) Drshti Yoga (Yoga of inner Light), the technique of focusing upon an Infinitesimal Point. This Point will eventually blossom into inner Light or visions of Light. One gazes into the middle of the darkness or the Light one sees while in meditation. Think of the Infinitesimal Point as being like a laser pointer or cursor keeping one focused. One passes from scene to scene and vision to vision always looking toward the center;6) Nada Sadhana (Yoga of inner Sound or Bhajan), the practice of inner spiritual hearing; and,7) reaching the State of Kaivalya: Oneness with the Supreme Being in the Pure Conscious Realm. The ultimate goal is to merge into the upper level of Kaivalya known as the Ocean of Love and Compassion, the Ultimate Reality of God in the Nirguna or Formless State, also described with terms such as Radhaswami (Lord of the Soul), Anami (The Nameless One) and Anadi (The Soundless State beyond Light and Sound).The poet-mystic Param Sant Tulsi Sahib describes the interior journey this way: There is a Being who is Inaccessible (Agam), unfathomable (Alakh), and Nameless (Anami), and who has no locality, location, and is not confined to space.Sant Tulsi Sahib also often uses the Sufi language of love or bhakti, describing this Timeless Spiritual State of Oneness as the Abode of the Beloved: On having found the teacher, I shall adopt his refuge, and I shall follow the path to my Beloved's Abode. The way to the Beloved lies within. My heart's desire, says Tulsi, is that my soul may meet the Beloved.The love-intoxicated soul is bubbling with joy. The darling of the Beloved has prepared and bedecked the bed and, imbued with the Beloved's bliss (ananda), has cast away all bondages. The soul prepared the Beloved's bed, and, lying there, enjoyed great bliss. (from, The Shabdavali of Param Sant Tulsi Sahib) - Kenneth Monday, April 07, 2008 1:35 PM Re: Kenneth T (Jane) Know of any places I can download meditation materials? Kenneth T - Jane MacRoss Monday, January 14, 2008 5:30 PM Kenneth T Meditation is always good Kenneth T Good for everything! Jane - Kenneth Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:49 AM Re: Moderators Notice - MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!! I think that once internet 2 comes along, I will go back to watching television. No! Wait! that is worse. I will have to start reading more books, but then even that will pass by if the powers that be have their way. Kenneth T - Soul_bro2 Monday, January 14, 2008 1:07 PM Re: Moderators Notice - MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!! Once INTERNET 2 arrives, the freedom of speech will disappear. See infowars.com for details and start a new medical conspiracy on prisonplanet.tv -------------- Original message ----------------------"Kenneth" <plisca> Today our groups disappear, tomorrow the world.> It is a shame...> > Ahhh, the more groups that they remove the more likely that I will cancel my > paid account and go back to the free one (or none at all).> Why do I pay for my email account, you ask? Well, I guess because the > same reason why some people pay for aol. Besides, with a paid account, I can > save my emails instead of leaving them on the net to later disappear (like > now). No warning at all just wake up to nothing.> Free speech is fleeting and will/can be gone in the wink of an eye.> > Kenneth T> - > Nan> > Monday, January 14, 2008 8:35 AM> Re: Moderators Notice - > MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!!> > > collects data. For who? Duh! My guess is from what I'm seeing on > UTUBE is that the government is getting involved and may be enforcing > HR1955. I don't think this bill has been passed into law yet, but when it > does we are all in danger and there will be no more "alternative" groups. We > will have to go underground. Your group will have to meet elsewhere or just > email each other. What a shame.> - > NWEagle> Monday, January 14, 2008 12:55 AM> Moderators Notice - > MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!!> > > > MedicalConspiracies is now GONE!!> > Members could not post to that group, they would get message failure, or > delayed message, moderators would get messages that their postings were > delayed or that that group did not except posting, ETC> > I still do not know what was so important, that they did not want us to > know?> who ever they may be, they are really coming hard on blocking > alternative medicine groups, chats and blobs> > Any one have any ideas?> > Moderator> > > > __________ NOD32 2789 (20080114) Information __________> > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> http://www.eset.com> > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 At 12:57 AM 4/7/2008, you wrote: I used to do it - actually knew someone who levitated when they meditated - no one believed me when I told them, though. Thing was, I actually saw it happen with my very own eyes....... Lynn TM is good - and I belong to this group: 7 Stages of Mystic Ascension to Heaven 7 Stages of Mystic Ascension to Heaven: 1) Praise or Bhakti, 2) Prayer, 3) Manas japa (simran, praying without ceasing, repeating the name of God -- mantra, the first stage of meditation), 4) Manas dhyana (visualising the form of the Living Master, second stage of meditation), 5) Dristi sadhana (seeing Inner Light at the Third Eye Center, third stage of meditation), 6) Nada Sadhana (hearing the Inner Sounds --- Surat Shabd Yoga, fourth stage of meditation), 7) Reaching Kaivalya (Oneness with Soundlessness, the Nameless One, Formless Supreme Being, the Supreme State, The Ocean of Love -- the Goal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 The trouble with levitation is it serves no useful purpose, does not calm the mind and increases the ego's power in most cases which is where we started out and what we were attempting to reduce. Jane - Lynn Ward Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:03 AM Re: Kenneth T (Jane) At 12:57 AM 4/7/2008, you wrote:I used to do it - actually knew someone who levitated when they meditated - no one believed me when I told them, though. Thing was, I actually saw it happen with my very own eyes.......Lynn TM is good - and I belong to this : 7 Stages of Mystic Ascension to Heaven7 Stages of Mystic Ascension to Heaven: 1) Praise or Bhakti, 2) Prayer, 3) Manas japa (simran, praying without ceasing, repeating the name of God -- mantra, the first stage of meditation), 4) Manas dhyana (visualising the form of the Living Master, second stage of meditation), 5) Dristi sadhana (seeing Inner Light at the Third Eye Center, third stage of meditation), 6) Nada Sadhana (hearing the Inner Sounds --- Surat Shabd Yoga, fourth stage of meditation), 7) Reaching Kaivalya (Oneness with Soundlessness, the Nameless One, Formless Supreme Being, the Supreme State, The Ocean of Love -- the Goal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 At 01:36 PM 4/7/2008, you wrote: Dunno - just thought it was pretty cool when I saw it. But, like I said, no one believed me outside of the TM community. Lynn The trouble with levitation is it serves no useful purpose, does not calm the mind and increases the ego's power in most cases which is where we started out and what we were attempting to reduce. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 It is well documented Jane - Lynn Ward Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:40 AM Re: Kenneth T (Jane) At 01:36 PM 4/7/2008, you wrote:Dunno - just thought it was pretty cool when I saw it. But, like I said, no one believed me outside of the TM community.Lynn The trouble with levitation is it serves no useful purpose, does not calm the mind and increases the ego's power in most cases which is where we started out and what we were attempting to reduce. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 At 05:40 PM 4/7/2008, you wrote: Not a big issue - I was just sharing. But, regardless of what is documented, people outside the TM community and people who don't believe things like that, just don't believe it. I don't care if there are reams of stuff on it. Your average person thinks it's either a lie or hooey. And, it's not as if someone has gone to the town square, meditated, then levitated for all to see........That's all.............. Lynn It is well documented Jane - Lynn Ward To: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:40 AM Re: Kenneth T (Jane) At 01:36 PM 4/7/2008, you wrote: Dunno - just thought it was pretty cool when I saw it. But, like I said, no one believed me outside of the TM community. Lynn The trouble with levitation is it serves no useful purpose, does not calm the mind and increases the ego's power in most cases which is where we started out and what we were attempting to reduce. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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