[Stop the Poisons] HOW ABOUT A GOOD LAUGH? FTC CHAIR GOES TO PROCTOR & GAMBLE (Lynn)

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As I just answered Kraig,

I am a Process Operator for a chemical plant (I can't say much of anything because of homeland security). No it isn't all hush-hush though.

A prospective employer would look at my resume and say that I am even overqualified to be a janitor!

I mean, heck... If I am applying somewhere then I would expect to be paid according to the job not higher.

 

Kenneth T

 

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Lynn Ward

Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:34 AM

Re: Re: [stop the Poisons] HOW ABOUT A GOOD LAUGH? FTC CHAIR GOES TO PROCTOR & GAMBLE

At 09:28 PM 3/31/2008, you wrote:Sad thing - often one is either too qualified, or not qualified enough.....A lot of companies want someone with experience, but only want to pay entry level salaries.....Don't recall what you do, or where you live, but depending on your filed of expertise, have seen a number of previously upper-level people hire themselves out as consultants. I've known some who made a lot of money that way.Just got a post from someone who is in the process of changing fields - she's at a good age, 37. Still young enough where a total change of career isn't too difficult, and not so old that people wouldn't want to hire her. I've changed careers a couple of times. A couple of times it was by happenstance, the other times on purpose. It's been several years since I've actually had a paying job - mostly due to my health. Am in the process now, though, of redoing my resume, and sticking a couple of feelers out there for something I can do part-time, preferably at home. Or, piece meal, as it works with some things. One of the difficult things in changing careers, is the salaries often offered are entry-level, which are too low for some. The other thing, is sometimes, one needs to get educated in some fashion in whatever field they want to change to. It seems, now-a-days, expertise and experience isn't always enough. They want a degree as well. When HD and I met, I was working as a "consultant" for a very large company. I was a network administrator and sort of all-around computer person. I had temped in that company, and guess I impressed them enough to offer me a job. But, I suspect, had I just come in off the street, so to speak, I may have had a difficult time, as I neither went to school for IT stuff, nor had any training in it. I was, am totally self taught. In fact, it was my first, actual job in the field. Previously, I had sort of inherited a job doing some stuff with a main frame, but that was self taught as well - fortunately, it was at night, so when, at first, it took me way longer than it should have (I'm talking 8 hours to do a 3 hour job!), there wasn't anyone to see how long it actually took me. All they cared about was the end result. Didn't take me long, though, to get what I needed to do down pat.The other thing that can be difficult when one wants to change fields, is whether or not there are jobs to be had where you live, in the field you want. It's silly, but I always thought people in certain fields, like IT, would be able to get a job pretty much anywhere. I've now realized, that isn't the case. Same with a number of other fields.Mind my asking what you do? And, what you'd like to do?Lynn

I want out of my "field of expertise" but every time I apply somewhere for a lesser type of job I get the same response... I am over qualified.Not everybody wants to do what they do, I want out but can't seem to get out.Kenneth T

 

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Lynn Ward

Monday, March 31, 2008 8:57 PM

Re: Re: [stop the Poisons] HOW ABOUT A GOOD LAUGH? FTC CHAIR GOES TO PROCTOR & GAMBLE

At 07:57 PM 3/31/2008, you wrote:

I don't understand why this is such a surprise to people. It's common for someone to have worked in the upper levels of government to get a job in whatever field they were. Let's face it, if you had a company, wouldn't you want the most qualified and knowledgeable person? It also happens the other way around - Someone from private industry may get a job in gov't in the same field he or she was working. It's just common sense. Those people bring a specific knowledge to the company - or the government. Plus, there are all these contacts they have in the same field..........And, believe it or not, most of them are pretty ethical about what knowledge they pass on.

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At 11:34 PM 4/6/2008, you wrote:

It's a curious thing - people want experience, but not the age that goes

along with it - nor the salary requirements that often go along with

experience. Maybe, if you really want to change fields, to the point

where you'd go to Walmart to stock shelves, you might want to consider

" dumming down " your resume. Mt dad had several resumes - each

one highlighting various aspects of his career. I'm in the process of

writing a new resume and have found it needs to be totally different than

the one I used to get a job in IT. This one highlights the

writing/editing aspects of what I've done. I pretty much left that stuff

out in the one for IT.

Just a thought..... oh, something else - don't know how old you

are, but there are a couple of places online that deal with the 50+

crowd. Resumes, job suggestions - stuff like that. Another source is

AARP. Even if you're not that old, you might be able to glean a few

nuggets from their sites....

Lynn

 

As I just answered Kraig,

I am a Process Operator for a chemical plant (I can't say much of

anything because of homeland security). No it isn't all hush-hush

though.

A prospective employer would look at my resume and say that I am even

overqualified to be a janitor!

I mean, heck... If I am applying somewhere then I would expect to be paid

according to the job not higher.

 

Kenneth T