Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Bea and Lynn, We need to totally re-invent ourselves on a grass-roots level (the government is not going to help). This PBS documentary, aired in 2002, caused me to investigate barter clubs: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/about/film5.html I was living in NYC when I saw the PBS documentary (about Argentina's barter clubs) and learned about a dentist in my building who used barter to save money. Dr. William Esh had an office on the first floor. I called his office to see if he would meet me to talk about barter for an article that I was working on. We made an appointment for coffee early one morning and in the space of an hour, he provided me with very interesting details about barter. The barter networks that Dr. Esh belongs to are based on unused product inventory or unused blocks of time. He explained that in his dental office, his dental hygienist is not booked every day and every hour—and he trades her down-time for products he needs to purchase for his office. He put me in touch with his office manager who helped me to understand the details of how his transactions worked. She explained that whenever she needs to make a purchase, she first checks the barter networks to see if it is available for sale. Whenever she finds products in the barter networks—she does not have to spend office cash. If people learn how to barter during periods of relative prosperity, a transition would be easier if they ever had to learn during a depression or a recession. In his book, The Future of Money: Creating New Wealth, Work and a Wiser World, Bernard Lietaer, a former economist at the World Bank, recommends creating complementary currencies. His book contains examples of several successful complementary currencies. This Web article, written by Lietaer, mentions Switzerland's WIR system that has been in existence for 60 years: http://www.transaction.net/money/internet Paul Glover's Ithaca Hours system is a model that Madison used to set up a community currency which supplements the federal currency (it's related to barter and it means less dependency on federal dollars). I have Paul's book. It's called Hometown Money. The E.F. Schumacher site has a page that lists all the community currencies in the country and they have a conference each year: http://www.schumachersociety.org/local_currencies/currency_groups.html Mary Jo Re: ] Fw: food prices--Promoting fear---causes consequences to pai Posted by: " Bea Bernhausen " beabernhausen beabernhausen Thu Apr 3, 2008 10:38 am (PDT) Patriot Act Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote: At 06:48 PM 4/2/2008, you wrote: I must have missed something - what does any of this to do with " Bushes law? " There is a difference between fearmongering and discussing serious issues of survival that are staring you right in the face. And excuse me---but there is a greater law than Bush's law and that is your children's survival--and that is the greatest responsibility--one that you take on when you become a parent. Bush is not going to come and feed your kids or share his plunder. The natural way to deal with all this is to form communities where we all share whatever we are good at---and live within the bioregional system as much as possible. My thoughts... Hanneke <blosshan wrote: That is the beauty of being on the ball, doing your own homework, have eyes and ears open. You can learn about what is going on in the world we live in, in your own time and space and prepare yourself. Awareness is a good guide to well being. Being aware doesn't make the prices go up and I doubt if this group, or any of the other groups I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 At 05:08 PM 4/3/2008, you wrote: I LOVE barter clubs!! There are some online, often not far from where someone lives.........For a while, I was so sick, that that's about all I could think of. And, now we want to move, although we're not sure exactly where yet. After talking with Amy, a member of the group, OK sounds very interesting. But, where ever it is, it needs to be someplace DH can find a decent job. Something he hasn't been able to do here, despite 15 years experience in his field. He's working on a degree as well, in the hopes that will enable him to get a job in his field - which is IT. One would think jobs in that area would be plentiful, but not here. Whether we do actually move (I'm praying we will - I really don't like it here) or stay, your post has reminded me about bartering. When we first moved here, I found a local group who did - but I was always so far behind, it didn't work. Plus, we didn't have much, and it didn't occur to me to barter my services - the only thing I could think to barter, was DH!!! *smile* Thanks for sending this - will check out the books, Lynn Bea and Lynn, We need to totally re-invent ourselves on a grass-roots level (the government is not going to help). This PBS documentary, aired in 2002, caused me to investigate barter clubs: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/about/film5.html I was living in NYC when I saw the PBS documentary (about Argentina's barter clubs) and learned about a dentist in my building who used barter to save money. Dr. William Esh had an office on the first floor. I called his office to see if he would meet me to talk about barter for an article that I was working on. We made an appointment for coffee early one morning and in the space of an hour, he provided me with very interesting details about barter. The barter networks that Dr. Esh belongs to are based on unused product inventory or unused blocks of time. He explained that in his dental office, his dental hygienist is not booked every day and every hour—and he trades her down-time for products he needs to purchase for his office. He put me in touch with his office manager who helped me to understand the details of how his transactions worked. She explained that whenever she needs to make a purchase, she first checks the barter networks to see if it is available for sale. Whenever she finds products in the barter networks—she does not have to spend office cash. If people learn how to barter during periods of relative prosperity, a transition would be easier if they ever had to learn during a depression or a recession. In his book, The Future of Money: Creating New Wealth, Work and a Wiser World, Bernard Lietaer, a former economist at the World Bank, recommends creating complementary currencies. His book contains examples of several successful complementary currencies. This Web article, written by Lietaer, mentions Switzerland's WIR system that has been in existence for 60 years: http://www.transaction.net/money/internet Paul Glover's Ithaca Hours system is a model that Madison used to set up a community currency which supplements the federal currency (it's related to barter and it means less dependency on federal dollars). I have Paul's book. It's called Hometown Money. The E.F. Schumacher site has a page that lists all the community currencies in the country and they have a conference each year: http://www.schumachersociety.org/local_currencies/currency_groups.html Mary Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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