cannabis

[Guest guest]

> I just ran across this study testing Cannnabis for RA:

 

Any thoughts on whether using huo ma ren would be effective? I see it does have

cannabinol and cannabidol, the active ingredients mentioned in this research.

I'm

wondering since it's just the seed not the whole plant and water-based decoction

is quite

a different method of extraction than smoking.

 

--Sarah Rivkin

[Guest guest]

, " saydit " <saydit@e...> wrote:

>

> > I just ran across this study testing Cannnabis for RA:

>

> Any thoughts on whether using huo ma ren would be effective? I see

it does have

> cannabinol and cannabidol, the active ingredients mentioned in this

research. I'm

> wondering since it's just the seed not the whole plant and

water-based decoction is quite

> a different method of extraction than smoking.

 

Non-drug strains of cannabis (such as the source plants for the hemp

seeds used in TCM) are higher in cannabidiol than THC. However, many

sources indicate that all cannabinoids (THC, CBD, CBN, etc) are

neglible in the seeds and oil, though the bracts around the seeds

contain cannabinoids. Furthermore, all cannabinoids are extremely

lipophilic so water-based decoctions wouldn't extract many

cannabinoids even if they were present in therapeutic quantities to

begin with. Mind you, the most-famous historical preparations with

cannabis seeds were ingested as a powder rather than a decoction.

 

Although only the seeds are commonly used in modern CM, materia

medicas also describe the actions and indications of a variety of

cannabis products, including the male flowers, the female flowers, the

roots, the leaves, and the cortex of the stalk. Of these, only the

female flowers are indicated for impediment (bi syndrome) pain. Thus,

based on the information of Chinese medicine, it seems that the seeds

are not indicated for impediment pain, unlike the female flowers.

 

Most of us know the seeds primarily for their main use of moistening

the intestines. Lesser-known actions and indications include the

following: Treating non-growth and loss of the hair and whiskers (used

externally). For blood vacuity patterns of non-growth of the hair and

whiskers, it was traditionally crushed and stewed in oil for topical

application to the head. Additionally, huo ma ren kills worms and

treats lai sores. The term ¡°lai sores¡± refers to a skin condition of

scab and lichen characterized by hair loss on the affected area; this

disease name may refer to rejection of the afflicted individual by the

community and lai sores often refer to leprosy, though lai sores are

not always equal to leprosy. Huo ma ren also frees strangury and is

thus used for treating heat strangury. Finally, huo ma ren quickens

the blood and is used to treat postpartum disorders, menstrual

irregularities, and knocks and falls. But no mention of impediment pain.

 

Eric

[Guest guest]

thanks, Eric.

 

--Sarah

 

, " Eric Brand " <smilinglotus>

wrote:

>

> , " saydit " <saydit@e...> wrote:

> >

> > > I just ran across this study testing Cannnabis for RA:

> >

> > Any thoughts on whether using huo ma ren would be effective? I see

> it does have

> > cannabinol and cannabidol, the active ingredients mentioned in this

> research. I'm

> > wondering since it's just the seed not the whole plant and

> water-based decoction is quite

> > a different method of extraction than smoking.

>

> Non-drug strains of cannabis (such as the source plants for the hemp

> seeds used in TCM) are higher in cannabidiol than THC. However, many

> sources indicate that all cannabinoids (THC, CBD, CBN, etc) are

> neglible in the seeds and oil, though the bracts around the seeds

> contain cannabinoids. Furthermore, all cannabinoids are extremely

> lipophilic so water-based decoctions wouldn't extract many

> cannabinoids even if they were present in therapeutic quantities to

> begin with. Mind you, the most-famous historical preparations with

> cannabis seeds were ingested as a powder rather than a decoction.

>

> Although only the seeds are commonly used in modern CM, materia

> medicas also describe the actions and indications of a variety of

> cannabis products, including the male flowers, the female flowers, the

> roots, the leaves, and the cortex of the stalk. Of these, only the

> female flowers are indicated for impediment (bi syndrome) pain. Thus,

> based on the information of Chinese medicine, it seems that the seeds

> are not indicated for impediment pain, unlike the female flowers.

>

> Most of us know the seeds primarily for their main use of moistening

> the intestines. Lesser-known actions and indications include the

> following: Treating non-growth and loss of the hair and whiskers (used

> externally). For blood vacuity patterns of non-growth of the hair and

> whiskers, it was traditionally crushed and stewed in oil for topical

> application to the head. Additionally, huo ma ren kills worms and

> treats lai sores. The term ¡°lai sores¡± refers to a skin condition of

> scab and lichen characterized by hair loss on the affected area; this

> disease name may refer to rejection of the afflicted individual by the

> community and lai sores often refer to leprosy, though lai sores are

> not always equal to leprosy. Huo ma ren also frees strangury and is

> thus used for treating heat strangury. Finally, huo ma ren quickens

> the blood and is used to treat postpartum disorders, menstrual

> irregularities, and knocks and falls. But no mention of impediment pain.

>

> Eric

>

[Guest guest]

Several reports focus on 'toxic' psychosis following heavy use of cannabis,

which is characterized by disorientation, mild impairment of consciousness,

dream-like euphoria, hallucinations and fragmented thought processes.[31-33]

Similarly, there are many reports on acute psychosis resembling acute

schizophrenia following cannabis use - cannabis was supposed to induce a

short-lasting functional psychosis.[34,35] Patients with the latter condition

differ from those with toxic psychotic in not having altered sensorium and

disorientation. Both the disorders resolve by themselves upon abstinence.

Although it is conceivable that cannabis was causative in toxic psychosis, there

seems to be no compelling evidence to believe that it was causative in acute

psychoses - such patients could well have developed the disorder even if they

had not used cannabis.

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

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Nora Madden

Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:08 AM

Re: Re: know signs of life-threatening disease

 

 

I had a patient when I was just starting out on my own who came to me with

pain in the L inner knee/thigh (Liver channel area). Had injured his knee

the month before the pain started, and just thought it had never healed

properly. He'd had PT to no avail; had been dx'd by health clinic as L3

nerve irritation. Patient was in his 20s, active, somewhat stressed but

generally healthy. I treated him twice a week for a few weeks and the

patient responded well, and each session completely alleviated the pain FOR

AWHILE (up to 24-36 hours). The thing was, there was never any cumulative

effect, and eventually the pain started getting a little worse between

sessions (still helped completely by each session) He went in for an MRI

but moved away about the same time. I didn't see him for about a year; then

I ran into him at a party. He told me that they had (finally) found a kind

of tumor (I don't now remember what it was called) on the back of his L

femur, which was irritating the nerve; this was removed and the pain was

gone.

 

Luckily, this patient had good insurance, and wasn't averse to using Western

medicine; and happily the tumor was a benign, slow-growing sort. But it

really taught me to trust my sense (despite my lack of confidence as a new

practitioner) that if the acupuncture was working but not holding or

accumulating in effect, to refer out. Now I hope I would refer out even

sooner.

 

I say " hope " because the main diagnostic indicator I had was that the

acupuncture was only sort of working, in an odd way. But this happens a

lot, right? We treat someone, they get some relief, then they can't come in

for a week and maybe in the meantime they did something to exacerbate their

condition. It's not always clear. Maybe we try another treatment; in the

meantime it can be weeks, especially at one treatment per week, to see if a

patient is really not going to improve. I agree that we should be alert for

signs of serious illness, but sometimes the signs are subtle; MDs miss

cancer (early signs, anyway) all the time, right? Granted, we usually have

more time with the patient...

 

I am also very sorry for your friend, Marian, and would be interested too in

what was missed and how, if you have that information and are willing to

share it.

 

Nora

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " "

<alonmarcus wrote:

>

> Several reports focus on 'toxic' psychosis following heavy use of

cannabis,

 

 

Pot is definitely not the benign substance many of us thought it was.

It is certainly not beneficial, except for relief of certain acute

digestive symptoms. It is with some chagrin that I must admit that

the anti-drug crowd was right on this account all along. Anyone who

wants to see their health improve on many levels should avoid this

stuff like the plague.

 

[Guest guest]

Many problems with this.

#1. In order to give this "herb" credibility, it has to be prescribed and under the supervision of a Medico???

Give me a break!!!

#2. Even prescription drugs are subject to abuse. As a matter of fact, this is a major problem in the US today. And it is not just Adults. Our children are being put on Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta, Prozac, etc.

#3. Cannabis has many beneficial uses, but if it is being used continuously, it is being misused.

and on and on . . .

 

Herbs are just a tool to facilitate healing. When used on a daily, monthly, yearly, continual basis like our druggie buddy was doing with Cannabis, we now have a "crutch" condition. This situation as he described does NOT resolve. Getting high every day is more than an escape from reality, it is a complete non-confront of issues he truly does have that could be resolved if they were approached from the viewpoint of going to the "CAUSE" of problem and terminatedly handling that.

 

More later.

 

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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Starlyet

herbal remedies

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:42 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - cannabis

 

This was a very good article. thank you for sending. Will pass it

along! It seems to me that under "medical supervision" as in prescribed

for specific disorders, that this herb would benefit many who are

slaved to the " market" of Western Medicine ( drugs/pills)..

 

Canibus is also very well documented to relieve nausea in chemotherapy patients, and in some cases doctors will prescribe.

[Guest guest]

Dear Earthfeather,

This is a very good answer.

I appreciate your point of view.

In Health and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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Barb Lantto

herbal remedies

Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:43 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: cannabis

 

 

 

You sound like my son when he was sixteen. He was argueing with me that marijuana is not addictive and does not open the door to other drugs.Well you got a buddy. My son continues to pick up horrid viruses and barcteri so that he can qualify for the heavest of pharmecuetical drugs. And he also has used marijuana since he was sixteen, He one time was on a camp out with the entire family. He fell out of his camper and embarrassed himself.And injured his ankle.

 

I am a CDP and I can tell you that your brain is full of THC. You seem to think that you are thinking clear. Actually you are in a fog and cannot see it.

 

And if you don't think that that you are addicted to it, why do you use it everyday?If it was gambling, or ice cream you would probably call it addiction. What is going on in your life that you feel that you have to put a mask on your life? Life is suspose to be wonderfull, full of adventure and happiness.( commonly called JOY)

 

Earthfeathersagullinha7 <sagullinha7 wrote:

Come on, peopleIf Cannabis was addictive, I would be a ZOMBI. I smoke it since I was 17, now I'm 53 and I still don't know a better medicine against depression. My life is not a misery, I work a lot, produce a lot of things, live normal as everyone, and smoke it everyday...What kind of dope have you been smoking???I want it toooooooooooooooooooooooooooherbal remedies , "Daniel Schlather" wrote:>> Since cannabis is a euphoric, and since euphorics make you feel great,> I guess you could say that a person could get addicted to it, but as> you said "psychologically". The only thing about it is that it makes> you feel so good, nothing else matters. I know a guy who smokes some> much of it, he can't do anything. Cannabis is like any other drug, you> use only what you need, and no more. There are some people who's lives> are so bad, that cannabis is the only release from their terrible lives.> > Daniel> > > > herbal remedies , Jen H wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Cannabis is psychologically addictive, but not physically. Thank> god! > > > > Jen> > > > >Roy Hewitt said:> > >"Daniel,> > > > > > I used to smoke a lot of cannabis. Now I dont.> > > > > > My sleep is deeper and I am no longer depressed.> > > > > > My life has improved and so has my relationships.> > > > > > Contrary to what some say, cannabis is highly addictive." > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>