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***during my battle getting off antidepressants, i found it

impossible to even get out of bed. my head was " zapping " ...

my dr dismissed it and insisted there was no addiction.

the only thing i found to help it was vaporizing cannabis. i

literally had to have it ready by my bed to be able to wake up

and be any kind of productive.

i apologize for seeming secretive, it was more a paranoia

situation...***

 

 

 

" Dr. Ian Shillington " <DocShillington wrote:

Dear Robyn,

I think we're all interested. Legal or otherwise.

As long as it's herbal, its discussion is allowed on HR.

The producing of any herbal product is the responsibility of the

grower.

In Health and Love,

Doc

 

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Thursday, May 04, 2006 10:19 AM

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I have gone through getting off a few different antidepressants,

I just wanted to warn you, you WILL have withdrawls, and it won't

be fun. The Dr.'s won't tell you that, I wish someone would have

warned me! It's worth it. What I used to get through it isn't

legal in all of the US, contact me if you're interested. :)

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Robyn, when I read your post I was taken back to my depression and

anxiety. After being on Paxil for 8 years and taking myself off of it

against the advice of my MD I too felt as if my brain was zapping

(good word to describe it btw! I couldnt descrbe it to my doctor). He

kept looking at me like I was nuts and said many times that Paxil was

not addictive and would not cause that to happen. Well, it lasted

almost an entire year! I now have occasional bouts of the blues and I

take Sam-e for that - no more drugs for me!

 

Thanks for sharing! I have never heard of anyone else having the

*zapping* and am glad to know it wasn't all in my head so to speak :o)

 

Tori

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I've referred to the zaps as head hiccups. It is awful when that happens. Canyou tell

me about Sam-e please? I would love to get off this Lexapro.

 

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Robyn, when I read your post I was taken back to my depression and

anxiety. After being on Paxil for 8 years and taking myself off of it

against the advice of my MD I too felt as if my brain was zapping

(good word to describe it btw! I couldnt descrbe it to my doctor). He

kept looking at me like I was nuts and said many times that Paxil was

not addictive and would not cause that to happen. Well, it lasted

almost an entire year! I now have occasional bouts of the blues and I

take Sam-e for that - no more drugs for me!

 

Thanks for sharing! I have never heard of anyone else having the

*zapping* and am glad to know it wasn't all in my head so to speak :o)

 

Tori

 

 

 

 

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Monday, June 05, 2006 9:33 AM

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RE: Herbal Remedies - getting off antidepressants

 

Robyn,

 

I gotta topper for ya on the illegal front. Go here for the best

general cure for all addiction(s):

http://www.ibogatherapyhouse.net/cms/

 

Deficiencies in the performance of neurotransmitter systems (esp

dopamine?) are probably at the source of most addictions. Taken

in a precise fashion, after only one or two sessions/doses, the

hallucinogens have the unique capacity to reset these systems for

at least a span of a few months. Absolutely nothing else can even

come close to making that claim.

 

 

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Sure! I did a lot of research online as well as reading several

books and talking to dozens of people who were actually using Sam-e

before I decided to start it.

S-adenosylmethionine (SAMe) is an amino acid that is used in the

treatment of many conditions including liver disease,

osteoarthritis, depression, fibromyalgia, schizophrenia, migraine

headaches, and to increase bile flow. Other names for SAMe include:

S-Adensyl Methionine, L-Methionine, Adomet, and Ademethionine.

 

I found this site helpful for more info when I was researching-

http://www.depressionremedy.com/sam-

e/depression/herbalremedy/article.php

 

There are very few IF ANY side effects and I never experienced any

while using it or when I stopped it. Make sure you read aout taking

the B vitamins with SAMe as they help a great deal. Also, I added

fish oils and that really helped me. I felt happy again after so

many years of being in a dark hole! A tip: Look in your local

drugstore ads like Walgreens or CVS (US) for buy one get one free

when you buy your SAMe, vitamins, fish oils, it will save you a

bunch!

Hope this helps!

 

Tori

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is SAMe a powder or pill?

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I saw some stuff on same but can't figure out what it is or how to take it?

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[lists] Herbal Remedies - Re: getting off antidepressants

 

 

Robyn, when I read your post I was taken back to my depression and anxiety. After being on Paxil for 8 years and taking myself off of it against the advice of my MD I too felt as if my brain was zapping (good word to describe it btw! I couldnt descrbe it to my doctor). He kept looking at me like I was nuts and said many times that Paxil was not addictive and would not cause that to happen. Well, it lasted almost an entire year! I now have occasional bouts of the blues and I take Sam-e for that - no more drugs for me!Thanks for sharing! I have never heard of anyone else having the *zapping* and am glad to know it wasn't all in my head so to speak :o)Tori

 

 

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herbal remedies , " Stuck " <Sstuck wrote:

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> is SAMe a powder or pill?

> Stuck

 

It's a coated pill usually 200 or 400mg. The pills are not big so they

are easy to swallow. I believe they should not be crushed or cut

either.

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Sam-E is a nutrient but it can be expensive. Why not just start

simple with an investment in a blender and make healthy shakes?

 

For example: milk; banana; and brewer's yeast granuales; honey;ice.--

- In herbal remedies , " Stuck " <Sstuck wrote:

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> I saw some stuff on same but can't figure out what it is or how to

take it?

> Stuck

> -

> Tori

> herbal remedies

> Sunday, June 04, 2006 5:52 PM

> [lists] Herbal Remedies - Re: getting off

antidepressants

>

>

> Robyn, when I read your post I was taken back to my depression

and

> anxiety. After being on Paxil for 8 years and taking myself off

of it

> against the advice of my MD I too felt as if my brain was

zapping

> (good word to describe it btw! I couldnt descrbe it to my

doctor). He

> kept looking at me like I was nuts and said many times that

Paxil was

> not addictive and would not cause that to happen. Well, it

lasted

> almost an entire year! I now have occasional bouts of the blues

and I

> take Sam-e for that - no more drugs for me!

>

> Thanks for sharing! I have never heard of anyone else having the

> *zapping* and am glad to know it wasn't all in my head so to

speak :o)

>

> Tori

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