Depression/Cymbalta

May 8, 2006

Lee I sure know what you're going through getting off the cymbalta. My

doc had me up to 60 mg for perimenopause, migraines and depression.

Sure it worked but I didn't want to have to take antidepressants

forever so I started lowering my dose from 60 - 20 mg over a week. I

thought it'd be easy to get off of (like Prozac) but I started getting

withdrawal symptoms like headache, pains all over, nausea & brain

buzzes. It got so bad that I got another prescription of 30 mg and as

soon as I took one pill..all went away. I knew then I was in

withdrawal and so I quit cold turkey too..very unpleasant and wouldn't

recommend it. Now I'm just trying to get my hormones together with

natural progesterones and am also using several herbs for headache,

mood swings, etc... I'm still getting brain buzz after 4 weeks off.

Eli Lilly apparently didn't tell my neurologist how to get me off this

stuff, she said she didn't know how to get me off without these

symptoms of withdrawal. That's the last time I'll trust the big

pharmaceuticals to " fix " whatever ails me. I've read many accounts of

the same withdrawal symptoms of this drug..bad news.

On Sunday, May 7, 2006, at 06:01 AM, herbal remedies

wrote:

> " Lee " kapolaka

> Sun May 7, 2006 5:26am(PDT)

> Re: Depression

>

> Aloha,

> I was on Effexor for two years before I finally had the will to

> quit. I went off cold turkey and was told by no one of the HORRIBLE

> withdrawal symptoms. For a month or more I was in tremendous pain,

> physical and mental. I swore I would NEVER go on anti-depressants

> again. But a few years later, I was in a very convoluted period of

> my life and I went on a new drug called Cymbalta. I have severe

> mood swings, and was diagnosed Bipolar when I was a teenager. I

> don't give much credence to psychologists, so I don't believe the

> hype. I found out that the drug Cymbalta was linked to 4 suicides,

> one of which was during the clinical trials in the facility they

> were conducting the trials in. That flipped me. No more guinea pig

> will I be!!!

> My naturopath has been working with me to equalize my nutrition,

> found out I have had a bacterial infection that has prevented me

> from absorbing nutrients and makes me sick every time I eat. So

> that's great. Much more energy now. But I have been slowly coming

> off the Cymbalta (which has very similar effects in terms of

> withdrawals that Effexor does). Elli Lilly doesn't make a pill less

> than 20mg, so I have had to make my own dosages with my own

> capsules, and I separate each one and divide it.

> The first two weeks I reduced each pill I took by 1/4. I felt no

> ill effects. The next two weeks I reduced each pill to 1/2 my

> former dose. The next two weeks, 1/4 my original dose. I am now

> down to 1/8th of what I was taking with no ill effects. I wish I

> had done this with Effexor. After the first few months of physical

> effects, I felt emotionally numb for a year after I came off of

> Effexor. I consider it a very harmful drug and would press upon

> anyone on it to get it out of your system as soon as possible.

>

> I am now taking a tincture of 2 parts skullcap, 2 parts st. Johns

> Wort, and 1 part licorice. I take 15 drops in the morning, and 15

> at night, and anytime during the day I feel anxious. I have racing

> thoughts and anxiety, along with despondency and lack of all

> motivation. I have found this has made my mind much clearer, much

> easier to comprehend things. It's made a tremendous difference. I

> also take a amino acid supplement, in powdered form. Pharmaceutical

> grade. And I take flax seed oil every day. All of these things I

> believe have helped me greatly. I do not smoke or drink (alcohol or

> coffee). I exercise an insane amount for my own sanity. Especially

> in nature.

>

> Good luck getting off these nasty pharmaceuticals.

> If you have any other questions please do not hesitate to email me.

>

> Lee

Kem

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just to be accepted.

May 8, 2006

Well while i am no expert on meds or depression...working on them both myself....for those of you who did not get the message of the 2 below posts...NEVER COLD TURKEY anti depressants, anxiety meds, seizure meds cardiac meds, hypertensives....things that effect your heart brain nervous system cannot be stopped without slow withdrawal and not just because of the unpleasant symptoms.

These things especially those dealing with seizures such as neurontin, even when not taken for seizures, can cause them if you pull yourself off cold turkey.

Hypertensives can rebound your hypertension ...and the psych meds can have many effects. Been there learned the hard way.

And please note...this does not mean they are no good or that this is a reason for stopping them....and going 'natural'....things that alter body chemistry are usually not to be started at a max dose or ended abruptly.

sun

In a message dated 5/8/2006 4:21:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, fromthemomma writes:

Lee I sure know what you're going through getting off the cymbalta. My doc had me up to 60 mg for perimenopause, migraines and depression. Sure it worked but I didn't want to have to take antidepressants forever so I started lowering my dose from 60 - 20 mg over a week. I thought it'd be easy to get off of (like Prozac) but I started getting withdrawal symptoms like headache, pains all over, nausea & brain buzzes. It got so bad that I got another prescription of 30 mg and as soon as I took one pill..all went away. I knew then I was in withdrawal and so I quit cold turkey too..very unpleasant and wouldn't recommend it. Now I'm just trying to get my hormones together with natural progesterones and am also using several herbs for headache, mood swings, etc... I'm still getting brain buzz after 4 weeks off. Eli Lilly apparently didn't tell my neurologist how to get me off this stuff, she said she didn't know how to get me off without these symptoms of withdrawal. That's the last time I'll trust the big pharmaceuticals to "fix" whatever ails me. I've read many accounts of the same withdrawal symptoms of this drug..bad news.On Sunday, May 7, 2006, at 06:01 AM, herbal remedies wrote:> "Lee" kapolaka Sun May 7, 2006 5:26am(PDT)> Re: Depression>> Aloha,> I was on Effexor for two years before I finally had the will to> quit. I went off cold turkey and was told by no one of the HORRIBLE> withdrawal symptoms. For a month or more I was in tremendous pain,> physical and mental. I swore I would NEVER go on anti-depressants> again. But a few years later, I was in a very convoluted period of> my life and I went on a new drug called Cymbalta. I have severe> mood swings, and was diagnosed Bipolar when I was a teenager. I> don't give much credence to psychologists, so I don't believe the> hype. I found out that the drug Cymbalta was linked to 4 suicides,> one of which was during the clinical trials in the facility they> were conducting the trials in. That flipped me. No more guinea pig> will I be!!!> My naturopath has been working with me to equalize my nutrition,> found out I have had a bacterial infection that has prevented me> from absorbing nutrients and makes me sick every time I eat. So> that's great. Much more energy now. But I have been slowly coming> off the Cymbalta (which has very similar effects in terms of> withdrawals that Effexor does). Elli Lilly doesn't make a pill less> than 20mg, so I have had to make my own dosages with my own> capsules, and I separate each one and divide it.> The first two weeks I reduced each pill I took by 1/4. I felt no> ill effects. The next two weeks I reduced each pill to 1/2 my> former dose. The next two weeks, 1/4 my original dose. I am now> down to 1/8th of what I was taking with no ill effects. I wish I> had done this with Effexor. After the first few months of physical> effects, I felt emotionally numb for a year after I came off of> Effexor. I consider it a very harmful drug and would press upon> anyone on it to get it out of your system as soon as possible.>> I am now taking a tincture of 2 parts skullcap, 2 parts st. Johns> Wort, and 1 part licorice. I take 15 drops in the morning, and 15> at night, and anytime during the day I feel anxious. I have racing> thoughts and anxiety, along with despondency and lack of all> motivation. I have found this has made my mind much clearer, much> easier to comprehend things. It's made a tremendous difference. I> also take a amino acid supplement, in powdered form. Pharmaceutical> grade. And I take flax seed oil every day. All of these things I> believe have helped me greatly. I do not smoke or drink (alcohol or> coffee). I exercise an insane amount for my own sanity. Especially> in nature.>> Good luck getting off these nasty pharmaceuticals.> If you have any other questions please do not hesitate to email me.>> Lee Kem<º)))><It's better to declare the truth and be rejected than to withhold it just to be accepted.

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