Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 I have a chow/shar pei who has cauliflower like ears that always itch and are infected{warm}. I've taken her to the vet's a few times, they just clean them a little,run a culture? and give me some medicines to give her, one being ear stuff. He also said benadryl. Well I can't keep her on benadryl and the ointments do not work. so the question {whew!} lol is...I have some ear oil for humans, this is what it has in it: garlic bulb mullein flowering tops calendula flower St. johns wort flowering tops tea tree oil vitamin e oil olive oil Do you think these properties will help her? Her ears just don't drain,so she has constant trouble. any help is Thanked! Thank you karly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Karly, Yes the oil will help, but what will help even more....is treating the cause. The cause of the yeasty ears is grains. More specifically wheat and corn, but grains period along with the hormones and pesticides they put on them. I have no idea what your budget allows....so will give you a few ideas to start looking into. Raw food, raw organic meat and organic juiced veggies are the best thing to feed your dog. Look into BARFing (Biologically appropiate raw foods). You may only be able to half BARF the dog and do half kibble. She will detoxify for a few days, and probably have very loose stools but that is only temporary. If price doesn't permit organics, you can look into non organic meats in bulk from your local butcher, it's still far better than grocery store kibble if you can't afford organic. They sell ground turkey for a buck a pound in 30 lb increments and the dogs only need 1 percent of their body weight a day. They also carry 20-30 lb boxes of turkey necks, chicken backs and stuff like that. Fred Meyers sells turkey necks by the 30 lb box also for about the same price but you have to call and order ahead. There are also places that take orders and make the raw foods for you and freeze them and ship to your door if you can afford to pay somebody else to do the work for you. This is the priciest solution of them all and second fiddle to doing your own. Homeopathic kibbles are far less in quality to organic raw, but never the less will help in comparison to grocery store kibble. They seem expensive, but the fact of the matter is, when the feed isn't all filler, they eat much less. So price wise it works out the same as grocery store crap minus the vet bills and ear problems. The food with one of the least amount of grains I could find was Innova. They sell straight raw beaver by the can also. There are the duck and potatoe kibbles also. There is a list of foods that the Dog Journal lists after labratory testing, that contain what they say they contain and no more, all other foods, homeopathic or not did not cut the mustard. Just try within your financial realm to get the dog off of grains unless they are in the same form they would get them in the wild, grasses. fft herbal remedies , " karly11us " <karly.gray wrote: > > I have a chow/shar pei who has cauliflower like ears that always itch > and are infected{warm}. I've taken her to the vet's a few times, they > just clean them a little,run a culture? and give me some medicines to > give her, one being ear stuff. He also said benadryl. > Well I can't keep her on benadryl and the ointments do not work. so > the question {whew!} lol is...I have some ear oil for humans, this is > what it has in it: > garlic bulb > mullein flowering tops > calendula flower > St. johns wort flowering tops > tea tree oil > vitamin e oil > olive oil > > Do you think these properties will help her? Her ears just don't > drain,so she has constant trouble. > any help is Thanked! > Thank you > karly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 What do you do with the meat, just serve it raw? Gina herbal remedies , "karly11us" <karly.gray wrote:>> I have a chow/shar pei who has cauliflower like ears that always itch> and are infected{warm}. I've taken her to the vet's a few times, they> just clean them a little,run a culture? and give me some medicines to> give her, one being ear stuff. He also said benadryl.> Well I can't keep her on benadryl and the ointments do not work. so> the question {whew!} lol is...I have some ear oil for humans, this is> what it has in it:> garlic bulb> mullein flowering tops > calendula flower> St. johns wort flowering tops> tea tree oil> vitamin e oil> olive oil> > Do you think these properties will help her? Her ears just don't> drain,so she has constant trouble.> any help is Thanked!> Thank you> karly> Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Soooo True fft! My poor boy suffered with his ears also until I found the blue power ear treatment http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/BLUE.HTM and completely changed his diet. Species appropiate diet will get rid of most problems (allergies, itchy skin, ear infections, internal parasites) if caught in time unless it is genetic. The power wash will get rid of immediate symptoms..... but diet adjustments/enhancements will give you a healthier, happier animal (just like us!). Debbie - food4tot herbal remedies Friday, March 17, 2006 2:49 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Dog ear/Human oil question Karly,Yes the oil will help, but what will help even more....is treating the cause.The cause of the yeasty ears is grains. More specifically wheat and corn, but grains period along with the hormones and pesticides they put on them. I have no idea what your budget allows....so will give you a few ideas to start looking into.Raw food, raw organic meat and organic juiced veggies are the best thing to feed your dog. Look into BARFing (Biologically appropiate raw foods). You may only be able to half BARF the dog and do half kibble. She will detoxify for a few days, and probably have very loose stools but that is only temporary.If price doesn't permit organics, you can look into non organic meats in bulk from your local butcher, it's still far better than grocery store kibble if you can't afford organic. They sell ground turkey for a buck a pound in 30 lb increments and the dogs only need 1 percent of their body weight a day. They also carry 20-30 lb boxes of turkey necks, chicken backs and stuff like that. Fred Meyers sells turkey necks by the 30 lb box also for about the same price but you have to call and order ahead.There are also places that take orders and make the raw foods for you and freeze them and ship to your door if you can afford to pay somebody else to do the work for you. This is the priciest solution of them all and second fiddle to doing your own. Homeopathic kibbles are far less in quality to organic raw, but never the less will help in comparison to grocery store kibble. They seem expensive, but the fact of the matter is, when the feed isn't all filler, they eat much less. So price wise it works out the same as grocery store crap minus the vet bills and ear problems. The food with one of the least amount of grains I could find was Innova. They sell straight raw beaver by the can also.There are the duck and potatoe kibbles also.There is a list of foods that the Dog Journal lists after labratory testing, that contain what they say they contain and no more, all other foods, homeopathic or not did not cut the mustard.Just try within your financial realm to get the dog off of grains unless they are in the same form they would get them in the wild, grasses.fft herbal remedies , "karly11us" <karly.gray wrote:>> I have a chow/shar pei who has cauliflower like ears that always itch> and are infected{warm}. I've taken her to the vet's a few times, they> just clean them a little,run a culture? and give me some medicines to> give her, one being ear stuff. He also said benadryl.> Well I can't keep her on benadryl and the ointments do not work. so> the question {whew!} lol is...I have some ear oil for humans, this is> what it has in it:> garlic bulb> mullein flowering tops > calendula flower> St. johns wort flowering tops> tea tree oil> vitamin e oil> olive oil> > Do you think these properties will help her? Her ears just don't> drain,so she has constant trouble.> any help is Thanked!> Thank you> karly> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Thank you both of you! Yes, she does have itchy skin,etc as well! I have 4 dogs so I don't know how to get away with the diet for her as they all eat as a pack. I can isolate her at dinner time, but I know that everyone else will treat her differently. I'm serious! lol...I can't even give her her ear drops in secret without them treating her different when they come back in! Is there a dry food, with the qualities that you mention fft? That I might get away with. Oh Thank you so much! I cant wait to get a few drops of this into her ears now! Karly On 3/18/06, Debbie <BeachHunter wrote: Soooo True fft! My poor boy suffered with his ears also until I found the blue power ear treatment http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/BLUE.HTM and completely changed his diet. Species appropiate diet will get rid of most problems (allergies, itchy skin, ear infections, internal parasites) if caught in time unless it is genetic. The power wash will get rid of immediate symptoms..... but diet adjustments/enhancements will give you a healthier, happier animal (just like us!). Debbie - food4tot herbal remedies Friday, March 17, 2006 2:49 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Dog ear/Human oil question Karly,Yes the oil will help, but what will help even more....is treating the cause.The cause of the yeasty ears is grains. More specifically wheat and corn, but grains period along with the hormones and pesticides they put on them. I have no idea what your budget allows....so will give you a few ideas to start looking into.Raw food, raw organic meat and organic juiced veggies are the best thing to feed your dog. Look into BARFing (Biologically appropiate raw foods). You may only be able to half BARF the dog and do half kibble. She will detoxify for a few days, and probably have very loose stools but that is only temporary.If price doesn't permit organics, you can look into non organic meats in bulk from your local butcher, it's still far better than grocery store kibble if you can't afford organic. They sell ground turkey for a buck a pound in 30 lb increments and the dogs only need 1 percent of their body weight a day. They also carry 20-30 lb boxes of turkey necks, chicken backs and stuff like that. Fred Meyers sells turkey necks by the 30 lb box also for about the same price but you have to call and order ahead.There are also places that take orders and make the raw foods for you and freeze them and ship to your door if you can afford to pay somebody else to do the work for you. This is the priciest solution of them all and second fiddle to doing your own. Homeopathic kibbles are far less in quality to organic raw, but never the less will help in comparison to grocery store kibble. They seem expensive, but the fact of the matter is, when the feed isn't all filler, they eat much less. So price wise it works out the same as grocery store crap minus the vet bills and ear problems. The food with one of the least amount of grains I could find was Innova. They sell straight raw beaver by the can also.There are the duck and potatoe kibbles also.There is a list of foods that the Dog Journal lists after labratory testing, that contain what they say they contain and no more, all other foods, homeopathic or not did not cut the mustard.Just try within your financial realm to get the dog off of grains unless they are in the same form they would get them in the wild, grasses.fft herbal remedies , " karly11us " < karly.gray wrote:>> I have a chow/shar pei who has cauliflower like ears that always itch> and are infected{warm}. I've taken her to the vet's a few times, they> just clean them a little,run a culture? and give me some medicines to> give her, one being ear stuff. He also said benadryl.> Well I can't keep her on benadryl and the ointments do not work. so> the question {whew!} lol is...I have some ear oil for humans, this is> what it has in it:> garlic bulb> mullein flowering tops > calendula flower> St. johns wort flowering tops> tea tree oil> vitamin e oil> olive oil> > Do you think these properties will help her? Her ears just don't > drain,so she has constant trouble.> any help is Thanked!> Thank you> karly>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Hey Debbie, Adding to the health ailments disappearing, the white teeth that no longer need yearly cleaning, no more doggie smelling dogs, fresh breath, not so much shedding, lack of parasites, no overly oily coats or so dry they look like they will crack, and all of those priceless goodies! fft herbal remedies , " Debbie " <BeachHunter wrote: > > Soooo True fft! > My poor boy suffered with his ears also until I found the blue power ear treatment http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/BLUE.HTM > and completely changed his diet. Species appropiate diet will get rid of most problems (allergies, itchy skin, ear infections, internal parasites) if caught in time unless it is genetic. The power wash will get rid of immediate symptoms..... but diet adjustments/enhancements will give you a healthier, happier animal (just like us!). > Debbie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Karly, Innova has very little grain. It is spendy but they eat very little in about a week or so, they will even skip meals. The rest of the foods have more grain, but at least it isn't wheat. I don't think they will be of much help. In the long run you will have to switch that too. But hey I had a brain gas! I saw a recipe to make your own kibble, and you could still use filler, flour, grains, as although it isn't cheap, it's already sprouted. You could get the healthfood store near you to carry it or even the grocery to save shipping costs. http://www.creatingheaven.net/eeproducts/eesfc/about_sprouted.html If you juice, you could juice the carrots and greens, put that in there with the sprouted grains with the meat keeping it as dry as possible to cut baking time, add you some yummy oils, bake it ever so slowly, till completely dry, give it a good tap with a hammer and wala. This way maybe you could feed them all the same. You would probably have to make it once a week by the sounds of it though, that may not be feasable for you. I like raw as it is better but also easier. Raw bones with meat left on them, and organ meats are good too. Or begin feeding them ALL seperately, no matter what they are fed, which is tough, I have to do that when I babysit dogs. Or make liver training treats coated in garlic powder and do a few tricks after meals to distract unacceptable behavior. Just bake garlic coated liver cut in narrow strips, slow and long till dry, cut them into small squares and keep them in the freezer till needed. They'll learn many tricks this way!! Also add raw apple cider vinegar to their water bowl, just a few drops at a time in the event you end up with one dog who will not like it, start slow.....you will never catch it if one stops drinking. Get up to at LEAST two teaspoons in a 2 quart bowl everytime you fill the bowl and try not to use tap water if it is chlorinated. Yes, she is a red head, and they do have more sensitive skin. You could rinse her in a 50/50 solution in the tub of raw apple cider vinegar and water and this will help her itchies till the new food and water kicks in, and it WILL. fft herbal remedies , " Karly Gray " <karly.gray wrote: > > Thank you both of you! > Yes, she does have itchy skin,etc as well! > I have 4 dogs so I don't know how to get away with the diet for her as they > all eat as a pack. > I can isolate her at dinner time, but I know that everyone else will treat > her differently. I'm serious! lol...I can't even give her her ear drops in > secret without them treating her different when they come back in! > Is there a dry food, with the qualities that you mention fft? That I might > get away with. > Oh Thank you so much! I cant wait to get a few drops of this into her ears > now! > Karly > > > On 3/18/06, Debbie <BeachHunter wrote: > > > > *Soooo True fft! * > > *My poor boy suffered with his ears also until I found the blue power ear > > treatment http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/BLUE.HTM* > > *and completely changed his diet. Species appropiate diet will get rid of > > most problems (allergies, itchy skin, ear infections, internal > > parasites) if caught in time unless it is genetic. The power wash will get > > rid of immediate symptoms..... but diet adjustments/enhancements will give > > you a healthier, happier animal (just like us!).* > > *Debbie* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > > > - > > ** food4tot <food4tot > > *To:* herbal remedies > > *Sent:* Friday, March 17, 2006 2:49 PM > > *Subject:* Herbal Remedies - Re: Dog ear/Human oil question > > > > > > Karly, > > Yes the oil will help, but what will help even more....is treating > > the cause. > > The cause of the yeasty ears is grains. More specifically wheat and > > corn, but grains period along with the hormones and pesticides they > > put on them. I have no idea what your budget allows....so will give > > you a few ideas to start looking into. > > Raw food, raw organic meat and organic juiced veggies are the best > > thing to feed your dog. Look into BARFing (Biologically appropiate > > raw foods). You may only be able to half BARF the dog and do half > > kibble. She will detoxify for a few days, and probably have very > > loose stools but that is only temporary. > > If price doesn't permit organics, you can look into non organic > > meats in bulk from your local butcher, it's still far better than > > grocery store kibble if you can't afford organic. They sell ground > > turkey for a buck a pound in 30 lb increments and the dogs only need > > 1 percent of their body weight a day. They also carry 20-30 lb boxes > > of turkey necks, chicken backs and stuff like that. Fred Meyers > > sells turkey necks by the 30 lb box also for about the same price > > but you have to call and order ahead. > > There are also places that take orders and make the raw foods for > > you and freeze them and ship to your door if you can afford to pay > > somebody else to do the work for you. This is the priciest solution > > of them all and second fiddle to doing your own. > > Homeopathic kibbles are far less in quality to organic raw, but > > never the less will help in comparison to grocery store kibble. They > > seem expensive, but the fact of the matter is, when the feed isn't > > all filler, they eat much less. So price wise it works out the same > > as grocery store crap minus the vet bills and ear problems. The food > > with one of the least amount of grains I could find was Innova. They > > sell straight raw beaver by the can also. > > There are the duck and potatoe kibbles also. > > There is a list of foods that the Dog Journal lists after labratory > > testing, that contain what they say they contain and no more, all > > other foods, homeopathic or not did not cut the mustard. > > Just try within your financial realm to get the dog off of grains > > unless they are in the same form they would get them in the wild, > > grasses. > > fft > > > > > > > > > > > > herbal remedies , " karly11us " <karly.gray@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I have a chow/shar pei who has cauliflower like ears that always > > itch > > > and are infected{warm}. I've taken her to the vet's a few times, > > they > > > just clean them a little,run a culture? and give me some medicines > > to > > > give her, one being ear stuff. He also said benadryl. > > > Well I can't keep her on benadryl and the ointments do not work. so > > > the question {whew!} lol is...I have some ear oil for humans, this > > is > > > what it has in it: > > > garlic bulb > > > mullein flowering tops > > > calendula flower > > > St. johns wort flowering tops > > > tea tree oil > > > vitamin e oil > > > olive oil > > > > > > Do you think these properties will help her? Her ears just don't > > > drain,so she has constant trouble. > > > any help is Thanked! > > > Thank you > > > karly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > > remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and > > to > > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > > as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > > person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from > > list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > > members free of any liability. > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > Dr.IanShillington > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Innova Evo has no grains. I use it for my my dog and cats. -Raine food4tot wrote: Karly, Innova has very little grain. It is spendy but they eat very little in about a week or so, they will even skip meals. <snip> -- Swap Your Paperback Books - PaperBackSwap.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 I know.... my brood glows - food4tot herbal remedies Saturday, March 18, 2006 11:42 AM Herbal Remedies - Re: Dog ear/Human oil question Hey Debbie,Adding to the health ailments disappearing, the white teeth that no longer need yearly cleaning, no more doggie smelling dogs, fresh breath, not so much shedding, lack of parasites, no overly oily coats or so dry they look like they will crack, and all of those priceless goodies! ;)fft herbal remedies , "Debbie" <BeachHunter wrote:>> Soooo True fft! > My poor boy suffered with his ears also until I found the blue power ear treatment http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/BLUE.HTM> and completely changed his diet. Species appropiate diet will get rid of most problems (allergies, itchy skin, ear infections, internal parasites) if caught in time unless it is genetic. The power wash will get rid of immediate symptoms..... but diet adjustments/enhancements will give you a healthier, happier animal (just like us!).> Debbie> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Gina, Some people grind turkey necks into a hamburger with a meat grinder, instead of getting ground turkey as it has the bone in it, in good bone/meat ratio. When I use ground turkey, I juice for the family, I add the juice and pulp to the ground turkey. My dogs will lap up the veggies and juice alone without the meat, but mostly I mix it in to the meat. I add raw garlic and a smidge of oil. I do not cook it. I feed also turkey necks, chicken backs, green tripe (which you can order online) and organ meats but I just serve them plain and raw when I serve those, I don't mix anything with them. I add sprouts to their food too, and blue algea. Many people feed raw meat only and add nothing to it at all. I have very small dogs, but I send them outside winter and all to eat the necks and backs, and any other raw bones I give them. There are seasonal issues here, yellow jackets, rain, et., so I do the bones in the evening meal. fft herbal remedies , Gina Kopera <ginakopera1 wrote: > > > > What do you do with the meat, just serve it raw? > Gina > > > > herbal remedies , " karly11us " <karly.gray@> > wrote: > > > > I have a chow/shar pei who has cauliflower like ears that always > itch > > and are infected{warm}. I've taken her to the vet's a few times, > they > > just clean them a little,run a culture? and give me some medicines > to > > give her, one being ear stuff. He also said benadryl. > > Well I can't keep her on benadryl and the ointments do not work. so > > the question {whew!} lol is...I have some ear oil for humans, this > is > > what it has in it: > > garlic bulb > > mullein flowering tops > > calendula flower > > St. johns wort flowering tops > > tea tree oil > > vitamin e oil > > olive oil > > > > Do you think these properties will help her? Her ears just don't > > drain,so she has constant trouble. > > any help is Thanked! > > Thank you > > karly > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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