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Peter, we take two 1000mg caps of garlic oil and one (homemade) cap of cayenne each morning with one or two hard boiled eggs(helps keep the 'heat' in the tummy down) and a glass of distilled water. (We also eat our own raw eggs too.) Along with this we take a Gingko cap and an Astragalus cap too. We've been doing this since the middle 90's with no ill effects, and we both have low bp and cholesterol to boot. We get our herbals and the garlic oil caps from Azure Standard. They ship anywhere! Bob.

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In a message dated 2/21/2006 4:29:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, herbal remedies writes:

I take a tincture daily of cayenne, garlic and ginger (Schulze's Circulation Formula) with no problems.

 

I was wondering if you make this yourself?

 

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Actually it is not recommend to use Cayenne for any long period of time, cause it can damage your kidneys. Please use Cayenne with extreme caution. Clay

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Can you give us a link which says this? This is new to me! The Mexican people eat HOT!!!!! HOT!!!!! peppers all the time. Haven't heard any reports that they are more prone to kidney disease than anyone else. Really would appreciate some proof of claim. Barb

 

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Monday, March 20, 2006 2:10 PM

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Actually it is not recommend to use Cayenne for any long period of time, cause it can damage your kidneys. Please use Cayenne with extreme caution. Clay

 

 

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Found some info by googling it. The key words IMO are excessive ingestion. That of course, leaves the question = What consitutes excessive ingestion? Ideas anyone? Barb Excerpt from: http://www.worldhealth.net/p/aadr-cayenne-capsicum-annuum.html

 

Cayenne is potent and can cause serious tissue irritation if used improperly. Be sure to wash your hands thoroughly after using capsaicin- containing creams; avoid any contact with eyes, mucous membranes, or open wounds. Excessive ingestion may cause gastroenteritis, liver, or kidney damage. Cayenne is reported to possibly interfere with MAO inhibitors and antihypertensive therapy, and may increase hepatic metabolism of drugs. Follow label directions carefully and do not exceed the recommended doses.

 

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:39 PM

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Can you give us a link which says this? This is new to me! The Mexican people eat HOT!!!!! HOT!!!!! peppers all the time. Haven't heard any reports that they are more prone to kidney disease than anyone else. Really would appreciate some proof of claim. Barb

 

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Monday, March 20, 2006 2:10 PM

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Actually it is not recommend to use Cayenne for any long period of time, cause it can damage your kidneys. Please use Cayenne with extreme caution. Clay

 

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Clay-

I have never heard of this. Cayenne is one of the best and easiest herbs to use. It is also the number one emergency herb.

 

I would like to know the source of your information. I have read, researched and used cayenne pepper with absolutely no side effects.

 

What cayenne will actually do is stimulate your organs, starting with the circulatory system. Which in turn will increase blood and nutrient flow to other organs. So if there is a pre-existing problems with your liver, kidneys or other organ it may cause those organs to start healing themselves. This in turn may cause some discomfort and may feel like an "infection"..... but it really is those organs coming "back on-line" and balancing themselves.....

 

Any time an organ is damaged you will have little, if any, notice of it.... there are no nerve endings to let you know that the organ is damaged....as opposed to the skin, where if you have a cut you know it because it hurts... what you will notice is when that organ tries to heal itself..... because it will be dumping toxins, you will feel discomfort in that area or possibly cold/flu like symptoms.... THIS IS YOUR ORGAN TRYING TO HEAL ITSELF!! Western medicine diagnoses this as an infection and gives anti-biotics....which totally stops your body from healing itself and actually drives the disease deeper into the body.... this is possibly the worst thing (antibiotics), for your body, that you can do.....other than maybe taking a hammer and smashing your big toe :)

 

Your body cannot feel when there are pathogens in a certain area.... what it does feel is when your body starts fighting these pathogens....because when your body kills the pathogens it produces a toxin that needs to be removed and it can overwhelm your eliminatory organs.... many people who have liver disease, heart disease, kidney disease, etc.. won't know for many years.... because they won't be showing symptoms....but this doesn't mean there is not a problem... the human body is an amazing system with one mission, survive at any cost.... so if there is a problem with your kidneys and your body isn't functioning correctly, it will give your immune system instructions to put the kidney issue on the back burner, so it can spend it's energy on keeping you living and moving.... when the body has a choice between healing the kidneys or continuing to breath, yeah....pretty easy decision.... so the body will wait until it has more nutrients and the "energy" to heal the kidney problem.... the main issue with this, is that we rarely give the body a chance to take up the kidney issue again.... that is why if anyone has done the lemonade cleanse (or another cleanse), your body will show all kinds of symptoms b/c your body doesn't have to digest food which can take up to 2/3 of your body's energy.... it will use that excess energy to start healing the body..... and just a side note, if anyone was going to do the lemonade diet (master cleanse) I would highly recommend cleaning out the intestinal tract for a few weeks before this....

 

There is absolutely no reason to fear Cayenne pepper..... and in fact every reason to incorporate this wonderful herb into your arsenal...

Rob

 

herbal remedies [herbal remedies ]On Behalf Of Clay WallMonday, March 20, 2006 3:11 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Digest Number 4399Actually it is not recommend to use Cayenne for any long period of time, cause it can damage your kidneys. Please use Cayenne with extreme caution. Clay

 

 

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As this quote is from a MEDICAL website, I wouldn't put too much

value on it!! Allopathic medicine likes to say bad things about

natural healing remedies, which are of course never as good as THEIR

medicine! LOL

 

Example, putting cayenne on an open wound apparently is good for it.

I personally have never tried this but have heard others on this

list talking about the benefits.

 

I also have never heard of any potential kidney problems with taking

cayenne. Clay, why don't you give us the source of that information?

 

love

Lisa

 

herbal remedies , " Barb Leppky " <bleppky

wrote:

>

> Found some info by googling it. The key words IMO are excessive

ingestion. That of course, leaves the question = What consitutes

excessive ingestion? Ideas anyone? Barb Excerpt from:

http://www.worldhealth.net/p/aadr-cayenne-capsicum-annuum.html

> Cayenne is potent and can cause serious tissue irritation if used

improperly. Be sure to wash your hands thoroughly after using

capsaicin- containing creams; avoid any contact with eyes, mucous

membranes, or open wounds. Excessive ingestion may cause

gastroenteritis, liver, or kidney damage. Cayenne is reported to

possibly interfere with MAO inhibitors and antihypertensive therapy,

and may increase hepatic metabolism of drugs. Follow label

directions carefully and do not exceed the recommended doses.

>

> -

> Barb Leppky

> herbal remedies

> Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:39 PM

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Digest Number 4399

>

>

> Can you give us a link which says this? This is new to me! The

Mexican people eat HOT!!!!! HOT!!!!! peppers all the time. Haven't

heard any reports that they are more prone to kidney disease than

anyone else. Really would appreciate some proof of claim. Barb

> -

> Clay Wall

> herbal remedies

> Monday, March 20, 2006 2:10 PM

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Digest Number 4399

>

>

>

> Actually it is not recommend to use Cayenne for any long

period of time, cause it can damage your kidneys. Please use

Cayenne with extreme caution. Clay

>

>

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> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using

any natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post

here as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that,

and any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their

own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List

Owner and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

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Black pepper is undigestible far as I know and it does hurt the

kidneys. But I have never heard of red pepper doing this as it is

not a pepper " corn " , but an actual veggie.

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herbal remedies , " Barb Leppky " <bleppky

wrote:

>

> Can you give us a link which says this? This is new to me! The

Mexican people eat HOT!!!!! HOT!!!!! peppers all the time. Haven't

heard any reports that they are more prone to kidney disease than

anyone else. Really would appreciate some proof of claim. Barb

> -

> Clay Wall

> herbal remedies

> Monday, March 20, 2006 2:10 PM

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Digest Number 4399

>

>

>

> Actually it is not recommend to use Cayenne for any long period

of time, cause it can damage your kidneys. Please use Cayenne with

extreme caution. Clay

>

>

> -

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> Mail

> Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List

Owner and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

>

>

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Good point Lisa! For myself, what I've decided to do is use the tincture and not the capsule. That way my tongue will tell me enough is enough! Barb

 

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:13 PM

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As this quote is from a MEDICAL website, I wouldn't put too much value on it!! Allopathic medicine likes to say bad things about natural healing remedies, which are of course never as good as THEIR medicine! LOLExample, putting cayenne on an open wound apparently is good for it. I personally have never tried this but have heard others on this list talking about the benefits.I also have never heard of any potential kidney problems with taking cayenne. Clay, why don't you give us the source of that information?loveLisaherbal remedies , "Barb Leppky" <bleppky wrote:>> Found some info by googling it. The key words IMO are excessive ingestion. That of course, leaves the question = What consitutes excessive ingestion? Ideas anyone? Barb Excerpt from: http://www.worldhealth.net/p/aadr-cayenne-capsicum-annuum.html> Cayenne is potent and can cause serious tissue irritation if used improperly. Be sure to wash your hands thoroughly after using capsaicin- containing creams; avoid any contact with eyes, mucous membranes, or open wounds. Excessive ingestion may cause gastroenteritis, liver, or kidney damage. Cayenne is reported to possibly interfere with MAO inhibitors and antihypertensive therapy, and may increase hepatic metabolism of drugs. Follow label directions carefully and do not exceed the recommended doses.> > - > Barb Leppky > herbal remedies > Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:39 PM> Re: Herbal Remedies - Digest Number 4399> > > Can you give us a link which says this? This is new to me! The Mexican people eat HOT!!!!! HOT!!!!! peppers all the time. Haven't heard any reports that they are more prone to kidney disease than anyone else. Really would appreciate some proof of claim. Barb> - > Clay Wall > herbal remedies > Monday, March 20, 2006 2:10 PM> Re: Herbal Remedies - Digest Number 4399> > > > Actually it is not recommend to use Cayenne for any long period of time, cause it can damage your kidneys. Please use Cayenne with extreme caution. Clay > > > ----------> Mail> Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to> prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington > > > >

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