Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Actually that is not correct. I have family and friends all over the globe and they do not come here for healthcare because their healthcare is excellent. If anything we go abroad because our insurance companies RATION CARE everyday. I speak from a Medical Professional's view as well as a consumer! Everyday at work I have to fight with health care insurx companies to provide care for my patients and then I have to fight my own insurx company, blue cross for my own care. A single payor system does NOT ration health care. If you believe that, then you know NOTHING of what a single payor system is all about. They also do NOT kill off elderly people- that is a right winged conspiracy argument. All we want is CHOICE. If the government run plan is better than the crappy blue cross PPO plan that I have now- I would CHANGE in a heartbeat! I have a very expensive life threatening disease that has Zero cure and I have a lifetime cap to my benefits whx is only 750,000.00. After I max that out- I will probably not be able to get insurance and so yes, I want the ability to have a frigging choice to what plan I can have. So, do ALL of my patients and my partners patients! ---- Gina Miller 8/4/2009 9:02:00 PM << >> Obamacare will be rationing A single payer system, will lead to rationing of health care services, and euthanasia of the elderly eventually, I believe. Baby boomers are retiring at the rate of 2000 a day, this is going to be a huge load on the govt. medical system in the future. What is going to happen to them? When they are sick, and taking up too much funds? We know in other countries, they come here when they can't get care. This will lead to maximum caps, and rationing of health care benefits. What will happen when you have reached your limit? You are not eligible for any more care under the govt? You don t have any more funds? Think about it. This is dangerous. 80% of people are happy with their healthcare. The 20% that is not, should be helped, not changed for everyone. Also, government officials WILL NOT have the same plan that we all have, they have their own special plans. If you get a chance to talk to your Senators or Reps, ask them, Will you be using this plan yourself? Because if it is not good enough for you, it is not good enough for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 No one I know is happy with their helth care. My mother, just treated for cancer, and denied coverage even though she's paying 700 dollars a month isn't happy. I wasn't happy when my husband lost his job, and cobra was too expensive to keep, and since I was pregnant not only would no company insure me but they wouldn't insure just my husband and son. They were turned down because I was pregnant, even though I wasn't applying for coverage, tell me what's there to be happy about. I hope Obama succeeds in everything he's doing. Alia - " Gina Miller " <seashelll30 A single payer system, will lead to rationing of health care services, and euthanasia of the elderly eventually, I believe. Baby boomers are retiring at the rate of 2000 a day, this is going to be a huge load on the govt. medical system in the future. What is going to happen to them? When they are sick, and taking up too much funds? We know in other countries, they come here when they can't get care. This will lead to maximum caps, and rationing of health care benefits. What will happen when you have reached your limit? You are not eligible for any more care under the govt? You don't have any more funds? Think about it. This is dangerous. 80% of people are happy with their healthcare. The 20% that is not, should be helped, not changed for everyone. Also, government officials WILL NOT have the same plan that we all have, they have their own special plans. If you get a chance to talk to your Senators or Reps, ask them, Will you be using this plan yourself? Because if it is not good enough for you, it is not good enough for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Oh wow. I know a thousand people in the city that I live and I would say about only about 20% of them are happy.... IF THAT! We have corporate health care on top of corporate insurance and that's absolutely unbearable. I know people who have been screamed and and told to leave doctors offices or threatened to be turned into 'security' because they would not accept big pharma's prescriptions handed over by the doctors. Most of the doctors will not accept you as a patient if you won't take their drugs. They will call you disorderly or uncooperative. I guess the drugs are really the big problem like someone else on this list said. Right now I don't have to worry about 'rationing care' because I'm scared shitless to go to a doctor because I don't want to fight with them about taking pills ( nor vaccinations) I know that if I argue they will call their own 'Kaleida police'. It's 'Kaleida Healthcare systems', and YOU BETTER BE REAL SCARED! This is going to be the norm in every American city if you let it be. ________________________________ Gina Miller <seashelll30 Tuesday, 4 August, 2009 22:50:43 << >> Obamacare will be rationing A single payer system, will lead to rationing of health care services, and euthanasia of the elderly eventually, I believe. Baby boomers are retiring at the rate of 2000 a day, this is going to be a huge load on the govt. medical system in the future. What is going to happen to them? When they are sick, and taking up too much funds? We know in other countries, they come here when they can't get care. This will lead to maximum caps, and rationing of health care benefits. What will happen when you have reached your limit? You are not eligible for any more care under the govt? You don't have any more funds? Think about it. This is dangerous. 80% of people are happy with their healthcare. The 20% that is not, should be helped, not changed for everyone. Also, government officials WILL NOT have the same plan that we all have, they have their own special plans. If you get a chance to talk to your Senators or Reps, ask them, Will you be using this plan yourself? Because if it is not good enough for you, it is not good enough for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Those who cannot afford health insurance are already without healthcare in cities like New Orleans. Who says 80% of people are happy with their healthcare? Got references for that statement? Alobar On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gina Miller<seashelll30 wrote: > A single payer system, will lead to rationing of health care services, and euthanasia of the elderly eventually, I believe. Baby boomers are retiring at the rate of 2000 a day, this is going to be a huge load on the govt. medical system in the future. What is going to happen to them? When they are sick, and taking up too much funds? We know in other countries, they come here when they can't get care. This will lead to maximum caps, and rationing of health care benefits. What will happen when you have reached your limit? You are not eligible for any more care under the govt? You don't have any more funds? Think about it. > This is dangerous. 80% of people are happy with their healthcare. The 20% that is not, should be helped, not changed for everyone. Also, government officials WILL NOT have the same plan that we all have, they have their own special plans. If you get a chance to talk to your Senators or Reps, ask them, Will you be using this plan yourself? Because if it is not good enough for you, it is not good enough for us. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Greater reality on Obama care but also on Obama in general. *note - what is freaky about this is that all social issues that are important to a majority is citizens, like universal healthcare, non petroluem society/alternative energy, fixing the economy - well they are all being hijacked and turned against us all - except of course - the elite/oligarky. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u15Y1BM1KBY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvmDSdsqTDs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqMK_yu8APg MY channel. http://www.youtube.com/user/cosmicwoman , Alobar <Alobar wrote: > > Those who cannot afford health insurance are already without > healthcare in cities like New Orleans. > > Who says 80% of people are happy with their healthcare? Got > references for that statement? > > Alobar > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gina Miller<seashelll30 wrote: > > A single payer system, will lead to rationing of health care services, and euthanasia of the elderly eventually, I believe. Baby boomers are retiring at the rate of 2000 a day, this is going to be a huge load on the govt. medical system in the future. What is going to happen to them? When they are sick, and taking up too much funds? We know in other countries, they come here when they can't get care. This will lead to maximum caps, and rationing of health care benefits. What will happen when you have reached your limit? You are not eligible for any more care under the govt? You don't have any more funds? Think about it. > > This is dangerous. 80% of people are happy with their healthcare. The 20% that is not, should be helped, not changed for everyone. Also, government officials WILL NOT have the same plan that we all have, they have their own special plans. If you get a chance to talk to your Senators or Reps, ask them, Will you be using this plan yourself? Because if it is not good enough for you, it is not good enough for us. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Here is what is going on. Right now, everything is in favor of the health insurance industry. They are set up to get unbelievably rich. There's little to stop them from skimming obscene profits right off the top of your premium dollar, denying your claims and purging you from the rolls when you get sick. The American people are like sheep being led to the slaughter. It's in the best interest of the insurance industry to encourage the people to have no confidence in the government, because right now the only way they can be stopped is if the government steps in. They want to stop you and me from using the government - OUR government, to correct the problem and create equal health care coverage for all Americans, because that will mean the end of their gravy train. End of story. I used to be a health insurance benefits administrator, and I can tell you from experience that the satisfaction rate for healthcare was lower than that before I retired eleven years ago. And I have it from my friends who are still in the industry that it's gotten far worse. In fact, it's shocking how much coverage has decreased and how much rates have gone up. How can 80% of the people be happy with their healthcare, when 18% had no health insurance in 2007, and the number has been steadily rising since? http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml How can 80% of the people be happy with their healthcare when it's costing half their income? All Americans should be outraged. , Alobar <Alobar wrote: > > Those who cannot afford health insurance are already without > healthcare in cities like New Orleans. > > Who says 80% of people are happy with their healthcare? Got > references for that statement? > > Alobar > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gina Miller<seashelll30 wrote: > > A single payer system, will lead to rationing of health care services, and euthanasia of the elderly eventually, I believe. Baby boomers are retiring at the rate of 2000 a day, this is going to be a huge load on the govt. medical system in the future. What is going to happen to them? When they are sick, and taking up too much funds? We know in other countries, they come here when they can't get care. This will lead to maximum caps, and rationing of health care benefits. What will happen when you have reached your limit? You are not eligible for any more care under the govt? You don't have any more funds? Think about it. > > This is dangerous. 80% of people are happy with their healthcare. The 20% that is not, should be helped, not changed for everyone. Also, government officials WILL NOT have the same plan that we all have, they have their own special plans. If you get a chance to talk to your Senators or Reps, ask them, Will you be using this plan yourself? Because if it is not good enough for you, it is not good enough for us. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 $700 a month would be more than what would be needed in alternatives to actually " cure " your mother's cancer, and midwives are highly trained in delivering babies and then the 22 poisons that are injected into the baby at birth under the cloak of " vaccinations " could be avoided. The American people need to take responsibility for managing their own health and not look for the magic pill to fix everything without having to do anything to fix it themselves. Health can no more be regulated than morals can, what might work for you, isn't going to for the next person and so on, so someone is always going to have a complaint. The real healthcare reform that needs to take place in this country is to lift the restrictions and allow ALL avenues of health to be practiced, not just the allopathy monopoly that is taking place now. ________________________________ " My mother, just treated for cancer, and denied coverage even though she's paying 700 dollars a month isn't happy. " Recent Activity * 31 New MembersVisit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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