Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Hi Dominic Thank --- On Thu, 25/6/09, dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere wrote: dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere << >> Re: Schizophrenia Thursday, 25 June, 2009, 4:03 PM Dear Basheer There is no one single illness called schizophrenia. Originally they thought there was, but it has become clear that it is a catch-all term for a number of very different illnesses. Many people are wanting to abolish the old word and replace it with a more appropriate one. They have done that already in Japan. You can find out more information on this at www.rufusmay. com (on the website there is also a video, the first minute of which is alarming. You don't have to watch it, but if you do, it will be quieter after the first minute.) The above website also introduces you to some alternative treatments for schizophrenia. Probably your son doesn't hear voices, in which case these treatments will not be appropriate. However, as you have asked for nutritional treatments, I have copied a few paragraphs below, from a book I have on nutrition. I notice that someone who answered your question yesterday referred to vitamin B3 (niacin, or nicotenic acid). Yes, B3 is the usual treatment, but B6 is also used (see below). The answer must lie in the fact that B6 is essential for the production of B3. I suppose that you could be short of B3 if your body is using up too much of B6 on other things, such as digesting meat (since each of these vitamins has many tasks). Or it could be being destroyed by tea, since each of these vitamins are destroyed by specific dietary factors. The general advice is that when supplementing with a single B vitamin, it is wise to supplement with all the others at the same time (though obviously at a very much lower level). If your son's problem is mainly depression, you may be interested in work being done on high-EPH Omega oils. The website to look at for this is www.vegepa.com The same oils are also used to treat schizophrenia. It's not quite the same thing as simply taking fish oils, because fish oils in their natural state are composed of both EPA and DHA. But if they are modified to remove the DHA, they can have remarkable therapeutic benefit. This may be because mercury (a poison found in amalgam fillings and in fish) interferes with the conversion of EPA in the body. And now the long-awaited quote: Patrick Holford reports: " According to Dr Abram Hoffer, former Director of Psychiatric Research for part of Canada, tranquillisers never cure mental illness because they merely replace one psychosis with another. After 40 years' experience as a psychiatrist he recommends them only as a last, and temporary, resort. Instead he favours nutritional intervention which, he says, cures 80% of acute schizophrenia, a claim backed up by his own and independent double-blind controlled studies. His definition of 'cure' is threefold: free from symptoms, able to socialise with family and community, and paying income tax! The latter, meaning gainful employment, is a rare event for people on tranquillisers " . Hoffer, A. & Osmond, H., 'Treatment of schizophrenia with Nicotinic Acid,' Acta. Psych. Scand., vol 40, 171-189, (1964) Hoffer, A., Chronic Schizophrenia Patients Treated Ten Years or More,' J. Orthomol. Med., vol 9:1, p1-37, (1994) He continues: " Some people produce excessive amounts of kryptopyrroles, which can be detected in the urine. The formation of this biochemical robs the body of zinc and vitamin B6, effectively creating a deficiency and need far in excess of what is generally considered necessary for optimum health. This condition, known as pyroluria, is found in about 10% of the general population and about 50% of those with mental illness. A period of stress, which depletes zinc, can tip a person with this biochemical tendency over the edge. The result may well be symptoms such as depression, confusion, disturbed thinking and social withdrawal. " Pyroluria is easily detected with a simple urine test currently costing only £11, and corrected by improved nutrition together with supplements of zinc and vitamin B6. Since zinc competes with manganese, this element is usually supplemented as well " Dominic Alternative- Medicine- Forum@ s.com, " mohmad_basheer " <mohmad_basheer@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Memberes > > Can anybody suggest some alternative treatment for Schizophrenia, recently my 22 year old son is diagnosed.He was being treated for deppression for last 4 years and now Doctor says he is affected with schizophrenia. > He is reluctant to take food and medicine > I am from India,Kerala. > > With Regards, > Basheer. > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Hi Dominic Thank you very much.I learned a lot from your post. Thanks again Dominic. Basheer, --- On Thu, 25/6/09, dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere wrote: dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere << >> Re: Schizophrenia Thursday, 25 June, 2009, 4:03 PM Dear Basheer There is no one single illness called schizophrenia. Originally they thought there was, but it has become clear that it is a catch-all term for a number of very different illnesses. Many people are wanting to abolish the old word and replace it with a more appropriate one. They have done that already in Japan. You can find out more information on this at www.rufusmay. com (on the website there is also a video, the first minute of which is alarming. You don't have to watch it, but if you do, it will be quieter after the first minute.) The above website also introduces you to some alternative treatments for schizophrenia. Probably your son doesn't hear voices, in which case these treatments will not be appropriate. However, as you have asked for nutritional treatments, I have copied a few paragraphs below, from a book I have on nutrition. I notice that someone who answered your question yesterday referred to vitamin B3 (niacin, or nicotenic acid). Yes, B3 is the usual treatment, but B6 is also used (see below). The answer must lie in the fact that B6 is essential for the production of B3. I suppose that you could be short of B3 if your body is using up too much of B6 on other things, such as digesting meat (since each of these vitamins has many tasks). Or it could be being destroyed by tea, since each of these vitamins are destroyed by specific dietary factors. The general advice is that when supplementing with a single B vitamin, it is wise to supplement with all the others at the same time (though obviously at a very much lower level). If your son's problem is mainly depression, you may be interested in work being done on high-EPH Omega oils. The website to look at for this is www.vegepa.com The same oils are also used to treat schizophrenia. It's not quite the same thing as simply taking fish oils, because fish oils in their natural state are composed of both EPA and DHA. But if they are modified to remove the DHA, they can have remarkable therapeutic benefit. This may be because mercury (a poison found in amalgam fillings and in fish) interferes with the conversion of EPA in the body. And now the long-awaited quote: Patrick Holford reports: " According to Dr Abram Hoffer, former Director of Psychiatric Research for part of Canada, tranquillisers never cure mental illness because they merely replace one psychosis with another. After 40 years' experience as a psychiatrist he recommends them only as a last, and temporary, resort. Instead he favours nutritional intervention which, he says, cures 80% of acute schizophrenia, a claim backed up by his own and independent double-blind controlled studies. His definition of 'cure' is threefold: free from symptoms, able to socialise with family and community, and paying income tax! The latter, meaning gainful employment, is a rare event for people on tranquillisers " . Hoffer, A. & Osmond, H., 'Treatment of schizophrenia with Nicotinic Acid,' Acta. Psych. Scand., vol 40, 171-189, (1964) Hoffer, A., Chronic Schizophrenia Patients Treated Ten Years or More,' J. Orthomol. Med., vol 9:1, p1-37, (1994) He continues: " Some people produce excessive amounts of kryptopyrroles, which can be detected in the urine. The formation of this biochemical robs the body of zinc and vitamin B6, effectively creating a deficiency and need far in excess of what is generally considered necessary for optimum health. This condition, known as pyroluria, is found in about 10% of the general population and about 50% of those with mental illness. A period of stress, which depletes zinc, can tip a person with this biochemical tendency over the edge. The result may well be symptoms such as depression, confusion, disturbed thinking and social withdrawal. " Pyroluria is easily detected with a simple urine test currently costing only £11, and corrected by improved nutrition together with supplements of zinc and vitamin B6. Since zinc competes with manganese, this element is usually supplemented as well " Dominic Alternative- Medicine- Forum@ s.com, " mohmad_basheer " <mohmad_basheer@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Memberes > > Can anybody suggest some alternative treatment for Schizophrenia, recently my 22 year old son is diagnosed.He was being treated for deppression for last 4 years and now Doctor says he is affected with schizophrenia. > He is reluctant to take food and medicine > I am from India,Kerala. > > With Regards, > Basheer. > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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