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Creative minds: thebetween mental illness and creativity

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Hi Ray

Actually, my angina has " me " under control. A day never passes that I don't

look for a way to minimize or eliminate it.

JP

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virgil

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:11 PM

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between mental illness and creativity

 

 

 

 

 

Very well put John! I hope you have that Angina under control these days?

 

Ray in England.

 

Posted by: " John Polifronio " counterpnt johnpol5911

Tue May 12, 2009 8:51 pm (PDT) Cannot people be " rigidly " sane, suffocatingly

rational? How can we regard people like Einstein as " having traits associated

with psychosis, " and yet see the extent to which mankind benefits from these

" traits? " It's the predictible and conventional personalities that appear, to

me, out of touch with reality. When we speak of " reality, " we certainly mean

more than " average, " " commonplace, " " ordinary, " etc., because these words fail

miserably to encompass what we mean by reality. Reality is always " beyond "

conventionality.

 

I see a different continuum than is discussed here. The continuum I see spans

from the center outward. The center, which contains all those personalities that

are " real, " in that they reveal the failings, the discontinuities, the suprises,

even the occassionaly bizarre aspects that we humans display in our behaviors,

thoughts and feelings. The extremes are at " both " ends. At one end are what are

presently mis-described as " psychotics. "

Mis-described, because, at the other end are the rigidly sane personalities I

mentionied earlier, who are equally, i.e. also, severely out of tune with their

environment.

 

These are the people that most of our social scientists usually don't have

occassion to label for their " mental illnesses. " Their judgmental attitudes,

their false sense of moral superiority, which is claimed simply on the basis of

the uniforimity they reveal along with the other automaton-like people around

them, and all the other personality traits we associate with these people.

They're also disturbed, just to the extent that they reveal more of that

rigidity I speak of; just to the extent that most social scientists are careful

to leave them out of their talk of psychotic personalities.

jp

 

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