Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 , " sharonstrahan " <sharonstrahan wrote: > > Hi all, > > A blood test has come back saying I have slightly underactive thyroid. The doctor wants to wait a month and re-test (although I didn't ask why - does anyone know why that might be?) > > Just hoping you all can pass on your wisdom and experience about hypothyroidism. I would rather not take thyroxin - so any advice on alternatives that work would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > Sharon Hi, I am hypothyroid from RAI for Graves disease. You just go to www.stopthethyroidmadness.com and read read. Also, you can join naturalthyroid I never felt well on T4 alone either. Now take Armour thyroid. Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Sharon, here is a link to what I consider to be good information on hypothyroidism:  http://www.arltma.com/HypothyroidismDoc.htm  I also found this:  Going for a natural remedy is a proven way to rid the body of hypothyroidism. Natural herbs have a good record of curing this condition with no side-effects. Synthetic drugs containing lithium have been found to promote hypothyroidism so the use of such medicines must be terminated immediately. The first thing to naturally cure hypothyroidism is controlling your diet. A diet rich in iodine and protein is recommended to patients of hypothyroidism, and habits like excessive alcohol intake and smoking must be done away with. Even otherwise healthy foods like broccoli, spinach, peanuts, soybeans, cassava and millets have been known to suppress the human thyroid function, and it is best to avoid these when you are suffering from hypothyroidism.  Supplements like vitamin A, B, C and E are helpful in curbing the ill-effects of this disease and the patient must also take plenty of vitamin D in the form of exposure to sunlight and in the form of supplementary pills in areas where sunlight is not plentiful. Beta carotene and calcium are also a good bet to add in your diet to hasten the healing process. Apart from the supplements, foods rich in iodine must be added to the daily diet. Consuming seafood, organic vegetables and shell fish is a good idea as they are rich in iodine and can naturally help overcome the deficiency of iodine in the body. An increased intake in iodine helps cure hypothyroidism as the thyroid gland’s basic function is the production of iodine in the body which in turn regulates the hormone production process. Natural remedies include herbs like bladderwrack (Fucus vesiculosus), guggul, Irish moss and kelp which help in curing the situation naturally with no side effects.  Acupuncture and neural therapy are good alternate natural options for tackling this problem as they also have minimum side-effects and maximum gains. Having a healthy lifestyle can go a long way in keeping one away from hypothyroidism. Exercising regularly with the intake of a balanced nutritional diet will be a good insurance policy to ward off from hypothyroidism.  Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Google Dr. Jorge Flechas and Iodine. It will change your life! , " sharonstrahan " <sharonstrahan wrote: > > Hi all, > > A blood test has come back saying I have slightly underactive thyroid. The doctor wants to wait a month and re-test (although I didn't ask why - does anyone know why that might be?) > > Just hoping you all can pass on your wisdom and experience about hypothyroidism. I would rather not take thyroxin - so any advice on alternatives that work would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 From what others have told me as well as my own experiance, you would be best off taking 'natural' thyroid - not any of the synthetic thryoid medications. I know one man for example and he was on synthetic thyroid and felt lousy etc .When he finally started taking Armour or natural thyriod , he blood pressure went down, and so did his edema which was pretty bad. And that is just for starters. Blood Pressure and Hypothyroidism can go hand-in-hand There's a variety of reasons you may have a blood pressure problem, and often, the precise cause is not obvious. But did you know that a poorly functioning thyroid, or inadequate treatment with T4-only medications, can be a factor in high blood pressure?? http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/blood-pressure/ My doctor has had me on the natural thyroid since the beginning - and by the way, my thyroid tests were 'normal' - low normal but still within the normal range. But my doctor treats by symtoms and just uses tests to confirm her own findings - if the test don't confirm them then she still treats by symtoms. Evidently many tests are often false-negative and false-positive. or so she says.... It certainly is strange that my tests are normal as we have increased my thyroid 2 times and are considering increasing it again because I am cold all the time and my temperture has actually dropped over 1 degree in the last year. Good luck. UNder here is a very good website - Stop the Thyroid Madness. Check out the info on adrenals too. If you have been under thyroid for awhile it would have stressed the adrenals and they will also need to be rebalanced. Not all thyroid doctor address this issue. blessings Shan Stop the Thyroid Madness Recommends treating by symptoms, not by tests.It also advocates natural thyroid and explains why.The importance of T3 and T2 is also explained for optimal wellness.Armour " is almost a magic word among thyroid patients , those who take it , and those , all over the world , who are desperately trying to get some . " Armour " is the probably best known brand-name for natural dessicated thyroid ( porcine ) , a med in use for about a hundred years . It contains all that the thyroid naturally produces , and the majority of patients does better on this natural product then on the modern synthetic drugs . There is a HUGE and GROWING body of thyroid patients who have discovered a FAR superior treatment with natural desiccated thyroid hormones, more commonly known by the brand name Armour. Additionally, we are dosing according to the elimination of SYMPTOMS, and paying attention to the free T3 and free T4, NOT the TSH. And it's working! The experience of thyroid patients compiled by a patient who learned it the hard way. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Take your temp! But your temperature can also be a clue of your metabolic health. As a hypothyroid patient, taking your temperature can be an important aspect in three other ways: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/temperature/ Gail's Thyroid Tips I have read this several times; it is long but definitely worth it, in my opinion. This is about her 'road to health' which includes tests, T3 & T2, hormones, adrenals and yeast conditions. Also discusses natural & synthetic thyroid treatments.You will get tips on how to deal with doctors; and many other things. http://personal.bellsouth.net/w/u/wurmstei/ Signs and Symptoms: Adrenal Fatigue vs. Low Thyroid Function http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp Those durn Adrenals!! If you were hypothyroid for several years before being diagnosed, or if you have been on T4-only medications, or if you have been through chronic life difficulties…..your stress-busting adrenals have been working extra hard to keep you going, or to make up for your low-functioning hypothyroid state, or the inadequate T4-only treatment! Additionally, periods of chronic life stress could have further stressed your adrenals. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/ ADRENALS FAQ–the most frequently asked questions http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/faq/ Broda O. Barnes M.D. Research Foundation Inc Not-for-profit organization dedicated to education, research and training in the field of thyroid and metabolic balance. Have educational packets, a bookstore and audios and videos from previous conferences which will help you discover information about the thyroid and metabolic balance. http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ & sdn=thyroid & cdn=health & t\ m=454 & gps=211_317_1083_827 & f=00 & su=p726.2.152.ip_p284.8.150.ip_ & tt=2 & bt=1 & bts=0 & \ zu=http%3A//www.brodabarnes.org/ Thyroid Adrenal Connection Information and Resources. Websites, labs,tests, information & studies, groups, treatments, natural armour and adrenal. More http://users.bestweb.net/~om/thyroid/ , " sharonstrahan " <sharonstrahan wrote: > > Hi all, > > A blood test has come back saying I have slightly underactive thyroid. The doctor wants to wait a month and re-test (although I didn't ask why - does anyone know why that might be?) > > Just hoping you all can pass on your wisdom and experience about hypothyroidism. I would rather not take thyroxin - so any advice on alternatives that work would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Its the diet. Avoid grains, soy, corn, wheat and sugars and all white flour/white sugars. This is a good place to start and exercise to get the bowels moving. Make sure to have 3-4 bowel movements a day. Natural Health and Wellness Center , " Shan " <bestsurprise2002 wrote: > > From what others have told me as well as my own experiance, you would be best off taking 'natural' thyroid - not any of the synthetic thryoid medications. I know one man for example and he was on synthetic thyroid and felt lousy etc .When he finally started taking Armour or natural thyriod , he blood pressure went down, and so did his edema which was pretty bad. And that is just for starters. > > Blood Pressure and Hypothyroidism can go hand-in-hand > There's a variety of reasons you may have a blood pressure problem, and often, the precise cause is not obvious. But did you know that a poorly functioning thyroid, or inadequate treatment with T4-only medications, can be a factor in high blood pressure?? > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/blood-pressure/ > > > My doctor has had me on the natural thyroid since the beginning - and by the way, my thyroid tests were 'normal' - low normal but still within the normal range. But my doctor treats by symtoms and just uses tests to confirm her own findings - if the test don't confirm them then she still treats by symtoms. Evidently many tests are often false-negative and false-positive. or so she says.... > It certainly is strange that my tests are normal as we have increased my thyroid 2 times and are considering increasing it again because I am cold all the time and my temperture has actually dropped over 1 degree in the last year. > > Good luck. UNder here is a very good website - Stop the Thyroid Madness. Check out the info on adrenals too. If you have been under thyroid for awhile it would have stressed the adrenals and they will also need to be rebalanced. Not all thyroid doctor address this issue. > > blessings > Shan > > Stop the Thyroid Madness > Recommends treating by symptoms, not by tests.It also advocates natural thyroid and explains why.The importance of T3 and T2 is also explained for optimal wellness.Armour " is almost a magic word among thyroid patients , those who take it , and those , all over the world , who are desperately trying to get some . " Armour " is the probably best known brand-name for natural dessicated thyroid ( porcine ) , a med in use for about a hundred years . It contains all that the thyroid naturally produces , and the majority of patients does better on this natural product then on the modern synthetic drugs . There is a HUGE and GROWING body of thyroid patients who have discovered a FAR superior treatment with natural desiccated thyroid hormones, more commonly known by the brand name Armour. Additionally, we are dosing according to the elimination of SYMPTOMS, and paying attention to the free T3 and free T4, NOT the TSH. And it's working! The experience of thyroid patients compiled by a patient who learned it the hard way. > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > > Take your temp! > But your temperature can also be a clue of your metabolic health. As a hypothyroid patient, taking your temperature can be an important aspect in three other ways: > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/temperature/ > > Gail's Thyroid Tips > I have read this several times; it is long but definitely worth it, in my opinion. This is about her 'road to health' which includes tests, T3 & T2, hormones, adrenals and yeast conditions. Also discusses natural & synthetic thyroid treatments.You will get tips on how to deal with doctors; and many other things. > http://personal.bellsouth.net/w/u/wurmstei/ > > Signs and Symptoms: Adrenal Fatigue vs. Low Thyroid Function > http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp > > Those durn Adrenals!! > If you were hypothyroid for several years before being diagnosed, or if you have been on T4-only medications, or if you have been through chronic life difficulties…..your stress-busting adrenals have been working extra hard to keep you going, or to make up for your low-functioning hypothyroid state, or the inadequate T4-only treatment! Additionally, periods of chronic life stress could have further stressed your adrenals. > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/ > > ADRENALS FAQ–the most frequently asked questions > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/faq/ > > Broda O. Barnes M.D. Research Foundation Inc > Not-for-profit organization dedicated to education, research and training in the field of thyroid and metabolic balance. Have educational packets, a bookstore and audios and videos from previous conferences which will help you discover information about the thyroid and metabolic balance. > http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ & sdn=thyroid & cdn=health & t\ m=454 & gps=211_317_1083_827 & f=00 & su=p726.2.152.ip_p284.8.150.ip_ & tt=2 & bt=1 & bts=0 & \ zu=http%3A//www.brodabarnes.org/ > > Thyroid Adrenal Connection > Information and Resources. Websites, labs,tests, information & studies, groups, treatments, natural armour and adrenal. More > http://users.bestweb.net/~om/thyroid/ > > > , " sharonstrahan " <sharonstrahan@> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > A blood test has come back saying I have slightly underactive thyroid. The doctor wants to wait a month and re-test (although I didn't ask why - does anyone know why that might be?) > > > > Just hoping you all can pass on your wisdom and experience about hypothyroidism. I would rather not take thyroxin - so any advice on alternatives that work would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Sharon > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 That is how I test people also. Silver fillings (aka mercury) can severely affect so many organs.... Natural Health and Wellness Center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I agree. For ones bowels to be working to expell that oftenly, to me parallels an allergic over-reaction. To me life is too short to be spending that amount of time on the throne, more than 2, possibly 3 movements..... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 , " Mia Harrod " <miaharrod wrote: 3 to 4 bowel movements a day? Are you kidding? How is that achieved? I've never heard of anyone going that much unless they are sick. Mia I don't think Vonhec was kidding.Ideally if one is healthy you should have one bowel movement for each meal you eat so how many bowel movements you have depend on how many meals a day you eat. It takes a time for the body to process the food you eat and can be anywhere from 12 to 18 hours. This is known as transit time. If you want to check your transit time eat beets with one meal and you can measure it for yourself. Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 After reviewing my results for iodine (low) Dr. Flechas gave me 50mg but when he reviewed my history he gave me 100mg/day. I think 12.5 is the lowest dosis you can take. You could try 25 perhaps and see if it is helping you. What I noticed is that my body has stopped itching. I started taking the iodoral 3 weeks ago, I think. Take care, Maria , " Mia Harrod " <miaharrod wrote: > > How much Iodine should be taken? I take 12.5mg now :-) but am still on 2 > grains of Armour thyroid as well. > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of drmoratto > Friday, April 10, 2009 2:36 PM > > << >> Re: Low Thyroid > > Google Dr. Jorge Flechas and Iodine. > It will change your life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Hi, Thanks everyone for your input. I had a chance to ask my doctor what my test results were... TSH was 4.5 (normal reference range 0.5-5.0) T4 was 13 (normal reference range 12-22) So I am 'borderline' - will be having a retest in a few weeks. In response to some of your queries/comments: I had my amalgam fillings replaced some years ago. I've not had heavy metal testing done recently, but I did have hair mineral analysis done about 3 years ago and there was no indication of heavy metals then. Armour is quite hard to get hold of here in the UK. And with diet I try to avoid wheat/gluten, dairy, and eggs (a known intolerance for me) as much as possible and include fresh fruits and veg as much as I can. I also take a number of supplements. I have been under a great deal of stress the past few months. The medical herbalist/acupuncture lady I see from time to time has mixed up a tonic for me for my thyroid. Hopefully that will help some although such things take a bit of time to really work. Will keep you posted - I confess I have felt pretty horrible at times, but I can't tell if some symptoms are due to the thyroid or due to some infection or bug that I can't shake. Thanks, Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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